What in the world were you thinking here?!? Anaheim doesn't need a LhD with Mintyukov, LaCombe and Zellweger all developing well behind Fowler and Vaakanainen and that package gets you a middle-6 winger, not Trevor Zegras.

MTL would select Cayden Lindstrom at 2nd OA
The only problem is if somehow FLO have a breakdown next year, there’s too much risk that implies CGY 1st rd pick
If the trade had WPG 2024 1st round pick, I would do it (even add a prospect)

I wouldnt trade Korchinski for Zegras

Rather keep Korchinski and use #5 overall on Catton, Demidov or Lindstrom - whoever is still on the board. Might even take Eiserman there. Leshevnov is the only RD who is top 5 worthy IMO.

I'd MUCH rather have korchinski+Lindstrom over Zegras+Parekh

Kyle Davidson should be fired if he trades that for Zegras. I'm sticking with Korchinski.

Ice cold take, with respect

With respect, you're wrong, because you don't understand how our team stands right now.

You guys need Korchinksi, and you need him to pan out. Therefore, he has greater perceived value to you. To us, he's the equivalent of Mintyukov and might not turn out to be better than LaCombe or Zellweger.

You have to consider the OTHER team's needs when analyzing a trade offer from their point of view, not merely from the perspective of how good you think Korchinski is going to be in isolation.

We wouldn't make that trade if you exchanged the Tampa Bay first for the bottom-quarter second. That's because Zegras isn't on the market because he fills the need for which you want him.

Sorry but how would Anaheim not get the chance to select Levshunov? In your scenario the Ducks Hawks and Habs can't win 1st leaving only the Jackets and Sharks as selecting 1st in order for Montreal to remain at 5th, then the Hawks or whoever ends up 16th would have to win the second lottery, otherwise the Habs would fall to 6th. So worst case scenario the Jackets win 1st they take Celebrini, Habs take Lindstrom, the Sharks take Demidov and that still leaves the Ducks with Levshunov. If the Sharks win 1st it's even better for the Ducks cause they would be picking 3rd. There is no scenario where the Ducks aren't getting Levshunov.

LHD doesn’t have value to us

We pass

While I agree in terms of Anaheim's needs and this being a bad package for them this is also this very bad for both teams. That said, your last part of the sentence is incredibly incorrect. Korchinski is a very highly valued 19 year old defender in the NHL, not easy to do, and he is worth WAY more than a middle 6 winger not to mention throwing in a 2nd rounder. I wouldn't do Korchinski straight up for Zegras and doubt the Hawks or other teams in the hawk's position would either.

Let's just stick with the plan, eh?

Korchinski is youngest D in NHL too.

Well… A for effort.

Well, I respectfully disagree. I think that you're conflating potential with performance: there's a world of difference between a highly-regarded young LhD with fewer than 70 NHL games under his belt and a proven top-line forward with two 60-points-plus seasons under his belt. Moreover, you're overestimating the market for highly-drafted LhDs: aside from Anaheim, teams like Buffalo, Colorado, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Montreal and the Rangers (to name just a few) wouldn't be interested in Korchinski due to their current roster makeup. And many other teams don't have, or won't part with, the kind of top-line forward you need to partner Connor Bedard. Finally, I think you ought to reconsider your opinion that "I wouldn't do Korchinski straight up for Zegras" in light of the Mittelstadt-for-Byram trade.

Byram is not Korchinski, let's be honest. Byram has struggled playing on a top team and dealt with injuries, not to mention Korchinski was playing better coming out of the juniors than byram. Korchinski, is one of the most highly touted defensive prospects 21 and under in the league and the youngest defender in the league today. I respectfully think you are overestimating Zegras's value as well. 23 goals and 65 points last season and on pace for .33ppg this season is not exactly a rarity in the league and especially one that isn't good defensively...his production also isn't high enough to totally overlook his defensive shortcomings despite how flashy of a player he is either. To put this in perspective, you have a forward guy like Jason Dickinson on a bad team at a .46ppg rate while on pace for 23 goals with little PP time and being very good defensively as well leading the PK unit...that's on a crap team. So then the debate is he's only 23, and to that end I would argue you have to conflate potential with performance. And that's not wrong in either player's case, as potential is what a team is buying with a 19 year old and to a lesser degree a 23 year old. You named a few teams that may not be interested in a top LHD prospect/young player, but a top defensive young player prospect is always more valuable than a top 6 forward apples to apples unless he's a lock down top center which Zegras is not. I would still say many teams would view Korchinski as more valuable than Zegras depending on current roster and where they are at in competing or not and the Hawks are one of them and I'm 99% sure of that.

Gabriel Landeskog is on pace for 0 ppg this season, so does that lower HIS value? Your citation of Zegras' figure this year is . . . well, since I value your knowledge and insight, I'll just say . . . uncharacteristic. He was averaging 1 point per game in the 5 games he played uninjured this year.

I completely understand why Korchinski is so valuable to Chicago, and I agree completely. It's extremely rare for a team to be able to draft what looks like a long-term #1LhD. And it's easier to find a first-line forward than it is to find a first-pairing defender.

My point is that Korchinski has a different value to different teams. You wouldn't trade him for Zegras or Caufield. Fine. But if he were on Anaheim's roster, we'd trade him for Caufield in a heartbeat, and if he were on Buffalo's books, they would trade him for Caufield or Zegras in a nanosecond. And had he been on Colorado's roster, the Avs would have traded him to Buffalo just as fast as they did Byram.

But in fairness, again a 23 goal scorer and 60 to 65 point player (that's his two best seasons) isn't elite production or close to it.

In both cases the question is about upside and fit, which is obvious for Korch, but Zegras too because if it wasn't, and all that Zegras has on the table is what he's shown then bring in someone like Philip Kurashev for much cheaper but that's missing the point. So again it's all about their potential and Zegras has the abilities to be a 80 or even more point player which is what teams would value him as. The same with Korch, it's all based on potential and even moreso with a 19 year old.

Back to my original comment, Korch is more valuable to some teams including Chicago the same that Zegras is more valuable to some teams including Anaheim. That's why I said, 1 for 1 Chicago wouldn't do it but also said not a good move for Anaheim. I really don't think their values at this stage are that far off on paper and an argument can be made for either player depending on fit. Both great players with a lot of upside potential.

Yep. All day.

It's crazy to think Zegras is worth more than Korchinski man. I know you're a ducks fan but come on. Zegras is being outscored by Ryan McLeod, jake Evans, and Nick Paul. He's a middle 6 winger whether you like it or not. Korchinski is not. He's better than any defenceman on the ducks not named Fowler and he would project has the top dman in their pool

Parekh > Korchinski
Zegras < Lindstrom
2025 1st >> Nothing

I don't see Chicago doing that 2nd deal

Parekh may be better than Korchinski offensively, but I just don't like dmen who don't play defense in general. And with Parekh, not just lack of defense, but unwillingness to take defense seriously, he will be lucky if he is another Tyson Barrie. At best, he is maybe something in the realm of EK65, who, in my opinion, is just an all offense dman that complicates a teams cap structure and doesn't win you cups. I don't buy the Makar comparisons, Parekh isn't breaking any ankles at the NHL level, and he definitely won't be anywhere near as good defensively.

Lindstrom over Zegras absolutely.

And, yeah, having that extra 2025 1st would be invaluable to the rebuild, whether it slides or not.

I would rather continue Korchinski's development, in which he has shown a ton of progress, AND draft Lindstrom, than start over with another defensive liability who refuses to even take defense seriously. There are at least 6 players I would take over Parekh in the 2024 draft, but it isn't about what I want. KD and LR have both shown a preference for large bodied dmen who actually play defense. If we really want another 2025 or 2026 1st, there are ways of achieving that. If we want that pick, specifically, we could take a contract off their hands, like Gallagher or Anderson.

if you use the Pick tool basedon past trades here is the real value:

5th
for
2nd + 17th


I feel the 26th is too late for a trade to happen

The most recent draft-pick-value chart published in The Athletic says 5th overall would require 17th overall and 21st overall, but I don't understand why that is relevant.

Or did you mean to write 2nd overall for 5th overall plus 17th overall