Thats likely the real cost for Zegras

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Créé par: ht42

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 16 mars 2024

Publié: 16 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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MTL

Zegras, Trevor

Détails additionnels:

Everybody..................

1st : Stop with all the mock trade who include one of theses 5 players; Hutson, Ghule, Reinbacher, Mailloux or Xhekaj. The Habs will NOT gonna trade one of theses five players for upgrading their offensive core.

2nd : Anaheim will gonna want a pick who is in the top 10 of the next Draft as a minimum price for get rid of Zegras. Verbeek will NOT gonna accept the WPG pick (even if it's a 1st round pick) because the pick isn't have much value than a pick in the Top 10.

3rd : For thoses who think the Habs need to select a foward that will gonna need minimum 3 years for being NHL ready, have you noticed that the Habs want to rebuilt faster that we can think ? This affirmation is because of the Dach & Newhook trade, and also the fact that Hughes said that Montreal want to trade for another young offensive player. Also, just don't forget that Montreal can't be in a rebuilt processus for the next 3-4 years, because they already have young players right now who will gonna be to old (in my opinion) in 3-4 years (ex : Suzuki).

ANA

Barron, Justin
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

2024 1st round pick (MTL) : 8th overall selection.

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Jake Allen: 1 925 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	83 500 000 $	81 560 416 $	1 170 000 $	4 035 000 $	1 939 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, AD RFA - 3	White, Colin 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Zegras, Trevor 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

16 mars à 22 h 3

Ryminister_92

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Imagine not wanting to include someone like Arber Xhekaj to get a skilled player like Trevor Zegras… classic Montreal fan 😂

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16 mars à 22 h 6

Campabee

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Drop Barron, Z is not getting 2 1sts + worth of value. Especially not a top 10 pick + a mid 1st round pick valued RHD prospect

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16 mars à 22 h 8

GuyGuyGuy

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We aren’t trading a top 10 pick for Zegras lol. If we do trade our top 10 pick, it’s for Mercer, Necas, Kyrou or any good defensively PPG forward. Any forward in the top 10 will very likely be way better than Zegras. We are building for the future, not to be mid 2-3 years then it’s over and we have to rebuild again

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16 mars à 22 h 31

Shanesaw9

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If you use Debrincat as a comparable it would be more like the 2024 1st (top 10 pick) plus a 2nd and a 3rd. No need to include Barron.

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16 mars à 22 h 31

drambui

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hughes wouldnt think twice about putting xhekaj in a zegras trade.... the fact you like the player is irrelevent.

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16 mars à 22 h 46

Cub19

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Habs should try and trade Anderson and Gallagher I'm offseason too much cap space for little production. They can use that on younger better free agents

16 mars à 22 h 52

batman

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Quoting: drambui

hughes wouldnt think twice about putting xhekaj in a zegras trade.... the fact you like the player is irrelevent.

He wouldn't. I don't even think he seriously intersted in him. Doesn't fit what we are looking for.

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16 mars à 22 h 53

batman

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Quoting: Cub19

Habs should try and trade Anderson and Gallagher I'm offseason too much cap space for little production. They can use that on younger better free agents

Gally heart of this team and untradable. Anderson will be hard to move so lets just keep him and hope he can bounce back.

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16 mars à 23 h 20

HabsCanucks

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We're not trading our 1st round pick for him

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16 mars à 23 h 22

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OldNYIfan

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I think the third and the seventh are too much but I'll also agree with @ShaneSaw9 -- take out Barron and the seventh and it would be a fair offer.

But you guys don't have to keep worrying about it -- Zegras isn't on the market.

Hasn't it occurred to you Habs fans that the only people posting ACGMs with Zegras-to-Montreal trades are Canadiens stalwarts? It's you guys who want him -- not us Anaheim adherents who want someone different, or want him to be gone.

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16 mars à 23 h 23

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habitantlecolon

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Quoting: Ryminister_92

Imagine not wanting to include someone like Arber Xhekaj to get a skilled player like Trevor Zegras… classic Montreal fan 😂

Xhekaj on ice and every enforcer of the league are all playing like wussies just like Reaves last game. This is why you do not trade him, even for the best player in the league.

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16 mars à 23 h 25

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habitantlecolon

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I think the third and the seventh are too much but I'll also agree with ShaneSaw9 -- take out Barron and the seventh and it would be a fair offer.

But you guys don't have to keep worrying about it -- Zegras isn't on the market.

Hasn't it occurred to you Habs fans that the only people posting ACGMs with Zegras-to-Montreal trades are Canadiens stalwarts? It's you guys who want him -- not us Anaheim adherents who want someone different, or want him to be gone.

I don't want him around Caufield. I think I'm the only one here that is not on the Zegras bandwagon

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17 mars à 0 h 9

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batman

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Quoting: habitantlecolon

I don't want him around Caufield. I think I'm the only one here that is not on the Zegras bandwagon

Same. I mean why don’t you want him around Caufield? Party Bars and etc? Cause if that’s the case Caufield already does this a lot.

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17 mars à 0 h 17

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habitantlecolon

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Quoting: batman

Same. I mean why don’t you want him around Caufield? Party Bars and etc? Cause if that’s the case Caufield already does this a lot.

I'd trade Caufield if someone offered me the right player!

17 mars à 0 h 57

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batman

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Quoting: habitantlecolon

I'd trade Caufield if someone offered me the right player!

Wow. That’s an interesting take. I mean generally talking almost every hockey players is like that. The culture is like this. And it’s actually very ****ty. No wonder why we see disgusting story breakout. The sexual assaults the consommation problems the party’s the bars etc. Not everyone has strong values and good hygiene, that’s what separate the elites and good ones. I just hope the management knows this ( they apparently do ) and take care of this. A good team starts with a good culture. ( starting to doubt we have that )

I’m very young, I just hope that if one day I make it to the management level, I could change this because this isn’t okay.

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17 mars à 1 h 1

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habitantlecolon

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Quoting: batman

To me, if Caufield is a party-goer like Zegras, I try to get a top 10 25yrs 200ft centerman. I have no issue about the skill, but we need to build a serious culture.

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17 mars à 1 h 12

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Quoting: Shanesaw9

If you use Debrincat as a comparable it would be more like the 2024 1st (top 10 pick) plus a 2nd and a 3rd. No need to include Barron.

Zegras probably has a little more trade value because of the contract situations and he can play center but not a lot, maybe just 2 1st rd picks one in say 8-10 range and another in the mid 20’s or later but a really spot on assessment by you.

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17 mars à 1 h 14

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batman

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Quoting: habitantlecolon

To me, if Caufield is a party-goer like Zegras, I try to get a top 10 25yrs 200ft centerman. I have no issue about the skill, but we need to build a serious culture.

Caufield for Lafreniere? Don’t know if he can handle the media and pressure since he’s from here. Might be a Drouin 2.0.

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17 mars à 1 h 17

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habitantlecolon

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Quoting: batman

Caufield for Lafreniere? Don’t know if he can handle the media and pressure since he’s from here. Might be a Drouin 2.0.

if he can play a 200ft game and keep composure yes anytime

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17 mars à 1 h 19

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We appreciate that we have someone across the aisle that understands that Zegras isn't going to be traded away for scraps @ht42 we're all tired of seeing the proposals you are talking about.

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17 mars à 10 h 29

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mytduxfan

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Good options to go for. Not sure any of those teams are looking to move those players for picks though or at all for that matter. Good luck in your search though.

Quoting: Shanesaw9

If you use Debrincat as a comparable it would be more like the 2024 1st (top 10 pick) plus a 2nd and a 3rd. No need to include Barron.

Different situation though as OTT had to move DeBrincat as they couldn't afford his next contract. We don't have to move Z. PV even said that GMs came calling after rumours. He didn't actively look to shop the kid. I doubt we'd move Zegras for a top 10 pick and few additional picks. You're basically converting a proven talent into a prospect you hope turns into Zegras + some other prospects with a low chance of success at the NHL. It also delays our rebuild. Pass. Need a proven piece coming along with the picks or, better yet, a proven piece of equivalent age alone.

Quoting: OldNYIfan

I think the third and the seventh are too much but I'll also agree with ShaneSaw9 -- take out Barron and the seventh and it would be a fair offer.

But you guys don't have to keep worrying about it -- Zegras isn't on the market.

Hasn't it occurred to you Habs fans that the only people posting ACGMs with Zegras-to-Montreal trades are Canadiens stalwarts? It's you guys who want him -- not us Anaheim adherents who want someone different, or want him to be gone.

I think it is a good offer, but I'd pass personally. For me it's Reinbacher+ or Slaf straight up. The rest doesn't really make. We don't need more picks and prospects unless they are highly-touted, fill a need, and close to/in the NHL already.

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