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Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars à 12 h 13
Sujet: 2025 Repeat Cup Champs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Why would this be a joke? His GF/60 this year is 2.39, GA/60 is 2.47. Let's compare this to another player, with a GF.60 of 2.32 and a GA/60 of 2.44. Kotkaniemi's got an xGF/60 of 3.16 (this is incredible, anything over 3 is VERY strong) and a xGA of 2.55. The player I was comparing to in the opening has a xGF/60 of 2.62 and a xGA/60 of 2.56.

These two players are Jesperi Kotkaniemi and Nick Suzuki.... there is no world where saying Kotkaniemi is a great play driivng young centerman isn't cold, hard truth. If you just look at point totals instead of actually watching the player, like you apparently clearly do, you'd see this too.</div></div>

GF and GA/60 doesn't scale linearly though, but okay. It also doesn't account for quality of competition.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG17 mars à 10 h 29
Sujet: Thats likely the real cost for Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>We aren’t trading a top 10 pick for Zegras lol. If we do trade our top 10 pick, it’s for Mercer, Necas, Kyrou or any good defensively PPG forward. Any forward in the top 10 will very likely be way better than Zegras. We are building for the future, not to be mid 2-3 years then it’s over and we have to rebuild again</div></div>

Good options to go for. Not sure any of those teams are looking to move those players for picks though or at all for that matter. Good luck in your search though.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>If you use Debrincat as a comparable it would be more like the 2024 1st (top 10 pick) plus a 2nd and a 3rd. No need to include Barron.</div></div>

Different situation though as OTT had to move DeBrincat as they couldn't afford his next contract. We don't have to move Z. PV even said that GMs came calling after rumours. He didn't actively look to shop the kid. I doubt we'd move Zegras for a top 10 pick and few additional picks. You're basically converting a proven talent into a prospect you hope turns into Zegras + some other prospects with a low chance of success at the NHL. It also delays our rebuild. Pass. Need a proven piece coming along with the picks or, better yet, a proven piece of equivalent age alone.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div><strong>I think the third and the seventh are too much</strong> but I'll also agree with ShaneSaw9 -- take out Barron and the seventh and it would be a fair offer.

But you guys don't have to keep worrying about it -- Zegras isn't on the market.

Hasn't it occurred to you Habs fans that the only people posting ACGMs with Zegras-to-Montreal trades are Canadiens stalwarts? It's <strong>you</strong> guys who want him -- not us Anaheim adherents who want someone different, or want him to be gone.</div></div>

I think it is a good offer, but I'd pass personally. For me it's Reinbacher+ or Slaf straight up. The rest doesn't really make. We don't need more picks and prospects unless they are highly-touted, fill a need, and close to/in the NHL already.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars à 10 h 10
Sujet: Anaheim Fans
Lol'd so hard at the "ever heard of Brian Leach?!?!?!?"

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>homer take of the year ladies and gentleman. he's not " overvalued " maybe watch him play and his stats + what he accomplished.</div></div>

Why are you so bitter? You clearly don't value Zegras as much as we do/we don't agree that Lane Hutson is worth what you think he's worth. We've stated what we think the trade would require. We can agree to disagree and then move on. Why are you so butt-hurt that we haven't said "yes" to your proposed trade. You do realise even if we did agree to it it still won't make it happen, right?

We'll see what happens, but PV has made it clear that Zegras hasn't been shopped. People called after Servalli made up that Zegras might be moved because he was good friends with Drysdale and Drysdale just got traded. PV took a couple calls. He's not actively looking to move the kid and he had made this clear in multiple interviews of late. Zegras has had a rough season with injury and missed camp due to delays in signing his contract. He'll come back strong next season and we are happy to keep him.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Ok, serious question for you, who was the last Habs player in the top 3 for the Calder contention? I will give you a hint, he still wears the Jersey, has always been a fan favorite and wears no. 11. Point is Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, Slafkovsky and many more Habs greats haven't finished top 3 in calder votes. Hell the last player to actually win the Calder as a Hab was Dryden in 1972. Just cause you don't win or finish top 3 for the Calder literally doesn't mean squat. With guys like Skinner and Tyler Meyers as former winners, just cause you win doesn't mean you will have a long storied career either. Raycroft won in 2004 but didn't even play 300 games in the league. I don't think anyone cares if he finishes top 3 in calder voting or not (McDavid finished 3rd after all) as long as his career tracks the way scouts are projecting it to. Back to back 44+ point seasons in the NCAA, is a pretty good indication that he will likely be as good as Habs fans and analysts project him to be.

Makar - 70 points in 76 gp 0.92 ppg
Fox - 116 points in 97 gp 1.2 ppg
Q. Hughes - 62 points in 69 gp 0.90 ppg
Hutson - 91 points in 71 gp 1.28 ppg

Before you comment on their size compared to Hutson only Makar is significantly bigger (20+ lbs heavier) and the following height and weights are based on this year's measurements, therefore one has to assume all were lighter when they broke into the league as well.

Makar - 5'11 187 lbs
Fox - 5'11" 181 lbs
Q. Hughes - 5'10" 170 lbs
Hutson - 5'10" 163 lbs

BTW, it's not Habs fans making the comparisons to Fox, Makar and Hughes, it's guys like Byron Bader and Hutson's coach Jay Pandalfo and many others. Bader updated Hutson's card this past November and he shows Hutson's NHLe has been higher than both Hughes since his D+1 and was always higher than Fox's but in his D+2 season Hutson has gapped him significantly.

https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1730294069895819402</div></div>

Good indicators. Means nothing until he can prove it at the NHL. Decision-making speed at the NHL is just next level. Why would you want to trade out a player you think is the next Hughes, Fox or Makar??? I wouldn't, even if it was from a position of strength. Keep the guys destined to be Hughes/Fox/Makars and trade everything below, no?

P.S. Zellweger has been a tremendous steal for us. However, most ANA fans accept his shortcomings and he's pretty much been pencilled into a 3LD + PP specialist role. No one was expecting him to become a #1D at the NHL level. Shifty and dynamic 3rd pairing D-man who are serviceable at defending at 5-on-5, but a major threat in the offensive zone and on the PP are significant add to any team (i.e. Ghost, OEL, Gustafsson - all playing on winning sides in 3D + PP roles). Nothing wrong with it and no need to overvalue their potential. They are good players in their own right. Just not worth a top 6 C with back-to-back 60 pts seasons, even if you throw in a late 1st rounder.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>batman</b></div><div>cant wait for y’all to get a pick #18 on draft day after yapping all season longue saying he’s worth more than 2 firsts</div></div>

Why are you so angry? Can you not accept when you someone disagrees with you? Very immature behaviour.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG17 mars à 9 h 39
Sujet: Z Monahan and Toffoli
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>With your loss tonight, you guys can give up any dreams of getting as high as #8. You'll be #5-#7. And the third is too much.


If the two Russians go in the top 6, we should have a good forward prospect available at #7. (Celebrini, Levshunov, Lindstrom, Demidov, Silayev leaves Eiserman, Helenius, Hemming and Nygard.)</div></div>

Yeh, may be it is just me, but I am not that high on Helenius, Hemming and Nygard. Not to replace Z. Eiserman could be interesting though as a true LW with goal scoring potential, but he's got problems outside of scoring. That said, we could go Lindstrom with our 1st and pick-up Yamenchuk or Parekh if they are still on the board. It really depends on what PV has planned to bolster the D next year. Lev seems like a perfect pick-up for us, but he's got a long road to getting into the NHL. I just wonder whether we go for a forward, with a shorter development time, and solidify the D through FA and/or trade.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG16 mars à 3 h 58
Sujet: 24-25 idea with Celebrini
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>First of all, Zegras is absolutely not going top 3 in any redraft lol. Hughes, Seider, Boldy, Cozens. 3 easy picks over him. Caufield, Harley and even Dach too. And I did respond to the 0.007 ppg difference by saying it’s minimal and that gms take into account goals more.

Also, if you take a look at some of my comments here, you can clearly see I don’t like Caufield and find him overrated and overhyped. I value defense a lot and Zegras is one of the worst in the league in that department.

Here is a quick look at forwards available in the top 10

Demidov : Clearly better than Zegras. Will probably be at least a ppg player

Eiserman : Goal scorer with tons of talent who will probably score 40 goals

Catton : insane forward with a 70 pts floor

Lindstrom : Physical guy who is a safe option for 60 pts

Helenius : less safe option, but he is pretty good defensively

Brandsegg-Nygaard : safe option for 2nd line

Connelly: basically seen as a responsible defensively Zegras

Igilna: good 2-way forward.

All these guys are pretty safe options to be at least as good as Zegras with a pretty good chance of being better.</div></div>

Hahaha.. okay, kind of proving my point saying that Dach, Harley and Caulfield go over him. I mean you've literally just said that you think Caulfield is over-hyped, doesn't play defence and has scored less points than Z. So the only way he goes ahead of Z is if you have some irrational hatred for Z, which you clearly do. Hughes and Seider are a given, hence why Z goes 3rd, so not much of a gotcha on that one. Fair on Boldy, but Cozens ppg is significantly lower than Z.

I agree, defence is important. But can you not at least acknowledge that scoring 60 PTS in the NHL in back-to-back seasons is an achievement.

Good luck with your pick in the draft. Very optimistic outlooks on those players and obviously assumes they hit their ceilings without injury. Also assumes Z is done developing, which he clearly hasn't. Anyway, I think we are done here. See ya.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG15 mars à 20 h 45
Sujet: 24-25 idea with Celebrini
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>But Debrincat is 10x the player Zegras is. Chicago was also not fireselling, they decided to do so when they traded Debrincat. They made it quite clear Debrincat was available, but only for an overpay. That’s exactly the Zegras situation. For the rexord, I think 10 PA is way too much to give for a player that would be fourth to sixth best forward on the habs and will be fifth or sixth with the Ducks</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Are you seriously taking +/- to say a player is bad defensively????? That is litterally the worst stat to demonstrated defense. And in real stats (although I do think advanced stats aren’t everything) Zegras is a bottom player defensively.

Yes, Caufield is injury prone. In fact, he is probably injured as of now since he missed several practice due to treatments. And oh, a 0,07 ppg difference is pretty much nothing lol

Also, have you looked at the habs’ defense the last couple years? Saying Anaheim has a bad defense isn’t a reason to justify Zegras horrible defense.

Dach was on pace for 55 pts last year. He has some pretty decent defensive stats. Also, he performed pretty dang good at 2c. Only way he got to play RW was because we had Monahan and Suzuki needed a winger to play with him. Dach has been injury prone for a longer time but it doesn’t change the fact Zegras has been injured A LOT lately.

Caufield has been playing injured (confirmed) for some time last year and he still performed a lot. Weber and Price played the best hockey of his career in the 2021 playoffs while injured. Zegras has really regress. Usually, when you are in a slump, you don’t lose your abilities. You are usually just unlucky. And 20 games is a pretty long slump.

Also, you are talking about me trusting what the medias are saying. Have you ever read an article about Zegras? The journalists are all glazing him and talking about his skills offensively. The medias are the reason he is more overhyped than guys like Necas and Boldy, who are WAY better players.

I would rather trust an insider with insides info about a guy availability than a random guy on internet with no internal info at all and only his convictions to trust</div></div>

I think you just hate Zegras. Kind of irrational logic being applied here. You are welcome to say that you'd prefer XX over Zegras, but the kid who would be 10th OA in this years draft according to some MTL fans (despite it being pretty average after Celebrini and Zegras going 3rd on most 2019 re-drafts) does have 2 x 60 PT seasons under his belt. He's had a down year after missing camp, playing in a new system under a new coach, and playing injured. He's still a good player and only just entering his prime years. He'll be back next year and there is no reason to think he won't perform at least as good as previous years.

I find it so odd how so many fans hate Zegras and are bitter because EA selected him for the cover of a game. What is even more odd is that he's over-hyped because of it... Smh! Anyway, not here to convince you that you should trade Xx for Zegras. Just pointing out that you are being completely illogical. I mean, you didn't even respond to the statement that Zegras is outscoring Caulfield (0.73 ppg vs 0.72). Does that mean Caulfield is trash and over-hyped too? Again, you can have your preferences, but try and bit a little objective in valuing players. If he's not the right fit then fine. If you think Suzuki is better and don't think Zegras would fill a need then fine. No need to go above and beyond to downplay Zegras and his abilities.

P.S. for anyone drafting a forward in this year's draft, you are pretty much hoping they become as good as Zegras. Getting 60 PTS out a player at 20 and 21 years of age isn't typical, even for highly drafted players. Moreover, you could get unlucky and grab a bust (Turcotte, Zadina, Kakko). You'll find them in any draft. I guess you prefer the magic beans to proven talent. Personally, I'd give up 8th OA in this years draft for Zegras, heck I'd do it for Cole too. Getting a solid 2nd liner with a top 10 pick is what you hope for. Go back and look at any draft and you'll see, unless you get lucky or it's a stacked draft, most guys past the top 5 are 2nd liners. Then you've gotta hope they continue to develop, wait for them to develop, hope they don't get a career ending injury, hope they make the jump to the NHL, etc. so muc risk. Each their own I guess.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 févr. à 17 h 6
Sujet: TDL and next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Because multiple Duck fans claiming NYR fans are the worst to deal with when y’all aren’t making logical trades

I don’t know let me ask you this: if your team needs a top line RW and a 3C, which position would you give up the first round pick for? The RW who’s likely to play 18+ minutes or the 3C who’s likely to play 12+ minutes

I don’t have a specific player in mind, but it would be Eberle/Bjorkstrand, Tarasenko, or whoever</div></div>

I didn't say that. We aren't some homogeneous entity. We are individuals. You are very aggressive and have made some silly statements. However, I don't tarnish every NYR fan with the same brush.

Well, I'd argue that Henrique is pretty versatile and will play more than 12 mins a night as he'll probably be on your PP or PK. You can also double shift him if necessary to get his TOI up if you are concerned about p/60. That said, yeah, I get your position about preferring a natural RW vs a C/LW. Not sure you'll be happy with Eberle, Tarasenko, etc. though, especially if you don't rate Henrique. I mean, Tarasenko and Henrique have similar numbers this year and Eberle has lower numbers and is kind of one dimensional. However, I respect your suggested targets and think they are a good choice for a 1st.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 févr. à 16 h 33
Sujet: TDL and next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Yea because trading a 1st for a 3C who probably won’t play much or get powerplay time is a waste of a 1st. The Rangers first should be going for a top line RW

The whole point of this is you guys crapping on Kakko when no one is forcing y’all to take him and the rangers need him more, on top of the fact that playoff teams don’t trade away roster players

If the rangers have picks available, then that’s what they’ll trade. You don’t trade 3RW for 3C while losing a pick in the process</div></div>

I mean CHI traded a 1st for Vermette, a 3C who didn't get any PP time and won the SC. Vermette played a pivotal role because of his FO and PK ability. In fact, ANA was in the running for Vermette, but lost out because we weren't willing to give up a 1st. We then lost to CHI in a very close WCF where Vermette played a pivotal role winning defensive zone faceoffs and shutting down our 2nd line. Not trying to convince you accept Henrique, I can see your mind is made up on that one. The point is that a 1st for a 3C has happened and they can be impact players who take your team over the edge.

I haven't crapped on him. Why you being so aggressive towards me and calling me an idiot. Just totally unnecessary. If you don't like the opinion of Duck fans, why come over to our threads. Just don't engage. Simple.

What deals do you have in mind for that top line RW? I assume there will be a significant add to the 1st to land a top line RW. Can't see anyone interested in giving up a top line RW where the main asset is a late, late 1st.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goalie</b></div><div>futures, drury prob wont shop a first and kakko definitely wont be shopped unless its something worth our time not an aging 3c in henrique lol. kakko + first would be the start for a zegras package if that were to happen.</div></div>

What's the game plan then? For fans, you don't seem very interested in seeing your team go for it and potentially win the cup. Even if it is a long shot everyone has a chance in the playoffs. Not really following what you want? Don't want to commit, but don't suck enough to get high picks. *Shrug*

Nah... Not even close. Zegras isn't available anyway. That was just some nonsense Seravalli said after the Drysdale trade for clicks. He's not in with the ANA crowd (Pierre LeBrun and Kevin Weekes are though). Even if Zegras was available, it would need to be a hockey trade and a 1-for-1, maybe with a small add.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 févr. à 15 h 25
Sujet: TDL and next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Lmao both brodzinski and Henrique both wouldn’t be playing in the top 6. The WHOLE point of this is why does Kakko have to be included in a trade for Henrique….. Playoff teams don’t trade roster players for a rental when they have picks readily available. Just accept the 1st round pick and move on

Damn I know you would run an undefeated team with the kind of moves like trading Kakko for an aging rental and signing Phil Kessel 😂😂😂😂</div></div>

Calm down brah... No need to call ppl stupid or idiots. It's just a forum. Don't be one of "those" fans.

A 1st for Henrique works for me too. I'm really not that high on Kakko. Henrique just seemed a good fit and reports coming out of NYR camp is they don't want to move a 1st.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Weird if Kakko sucks so bad and he’s truly a bust, wouldn’t you rather have a 1st for Rico? Damn all you Ducks fans aren’t that smart

And once again, learn how to operate a team. It’s pretty common sense</div></div>

NYR 1st it is then! Deal!

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goalie</b></div><div>We need right wingers just as bad as we need 3Cs lol… you’re not getting kakko for a 3c rental…</div></div>

Okay, not many options in that case. What's the plan then?
Forum: Armchair-GM11 févr. à 13 h 16
Sujet: TDL and next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>They don’t “need” a replacement for chytil, especially if that’s the price for it lol<strong> Henrique is barely an upgrade over brodzinski </strong>

Right now they haven’t looked good so there’s no need to go all in. Secondly, you don’t give up a roster player to fill a hole. Rangers trade Kakko and now they need a RW. If the rangers want Rico, it’ll be for picks</div></div>

Hmmmm... I see you are one of those fans. No point arguing with someone who thinks a borderline NHLer is better than a career NHLer with a proven track record. I mean, Henrique has more than double the points and 3 times the goals of Brodzinski. Anyway...... no point in arguing, you believe what you want. I'm not going to change that, even if I bring a logical argument to the table.

Okay, understood. FWIW, Kakko is more likely to stay than go I guess. Tough to make deals that everyone is happy with.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Rangers fans are still adamant that Kakko can be a top 6 winger and would rather ride him to the AHL than trade him out and see him succeed elsewhere.

As a general rule of thumb, done make ACGMs with trades to NYR or TOR, their fan bases on here make it not worth the hassle.</div></div>

I don't think it is all NYR or TOR fans, just certain ones in particular. This Rags21 is definitely one of those. I mean, "Henrique is barely an upgrade over Brodzinski". You can't even have a polite debate with such fans. Oh well.

I'm not even fussed about Kakko. Just thought he sounded like a Silf replacement. Doubt Henrique goes for anything less a 1st, but Kakko + 2nd seemed like an equivalent deal and I think NYR would benefit from Henrique. Nevermind. We'll see what unfolds.