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Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2022 à 16 h 8
Sujet:
Meier
Meier would be amazing in MTL, the ideal player to put with Caufield IMO.
I wanted them to trade for him before he broke out (while the sharks were in turmoil with bad contracts). He would cost a lot right now, I don't think this is enough.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>it's basically a Tatar to Montreal add on, not really any value either way just cap purposes. BTW that was the basic model for my proposal, Patches at the time was 27 and returned Suzuki (1st) + 2nd + Tatar basically this package but I added a 3rd as well.</div></div>
Tatar >> Dadanov. Tatar was just acquired from Detroit by Vegas for a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd... yes he was traded for cap purposes and he wasn't a fit in Vegas during their playoff run but Tatar still had real value unlike Dadanov.
Suzuki > the lower of MTL's 1st round picks. Suzuki was a promising prospect and drafted 13th overall.
2nd = Ylonen or Kidney.
Also Meier > Pacioretty, who was about to be a UFA which hurt MTL's leverage while Meier is RFA.
As much as I'd love Meier, I think if MTL is patient they might be able to land a big free agent which could be better asset management for a team that is rebuilding / re-tooling. If he could be had for your proposed cost I would do it but I think he is worth much more.
I know Hughes has already spoken about how he wants to be a player in free agency, with his experience as an agent and St. Louis being a desirable coach to play for I could see him waiting until the offseason to see what options are available before trading draft equity.
Edit:
If negotiations with Meier or Dubois are ongoing after free agency (which players usually do hold out for a bit now) then this option would still be available in the offseason and it wouldn't require SJ taking on Dadanov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 sept. 2022 à 22 h 29
Sujet:
Lines against Jets
So far I'm impressed with Caufield (obviously), Dach, and Guhle. I think these 3 standout as impactful top of the lineup players Montreal can build around.
Heineman also looks really close, maybe one more year once MTL loses some wingers he will be ready. I also love Simoneau's game, I think he's going to impress in Laval, might be a Desharnais 2.0 (although he's shown more of a willingness to battle in front of the net and shoot).
Going back to Dach, his speed is impressive, especially for a 6'4" skater. He is clearly more a playmaker than a shooter so I like this combination with Caufield. Perhaps this gives Suzuki some other options, Drouin - Suzuki - Armia was once a successful line... Drouin and Armia could use the boost in value.
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Caufield - Dach - Anderson
Dadanov - Dvorak - Gallagher
Hoffman - Monahan - Evans
Pitlick, Pezzetta ?
Don't want to count Slafkovsky out yet but so far I think he needs more seasoning. Slafkovsky + Simoneau = Pacioretty + Desharnais?
Edit:
Actually maybe Heineman is a better comparison to Pacioretty, strong skater, some smarts and a heavy shot.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 sept. 2022 à 16 h 13
Sujet:
22-23 HABS after deadline
Drouin, Monahan, Dadanov, Byron, Allen?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 août 2022 à 15 h 45
Sujet:
Who adds
Dach can skate, KK can't.
KK will actually use his size, Dach doesn't.
Too bad they couldn't combine their traits.
Forum:
Carolina Hurricanes
18 août 2022 à 15 h 59
Sujet:
KK Discussion
I thought he was looking good before his injury late last season. Career lows in icetime but best season in terms of P/60... he should get his shot this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 juill. 2022 à 14 h 11
Sujet:
Dvorak out
WPG could potentially sign Dvorak to an extension if it works out, they would have 3 years to see if the fit is mutual.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 12 h 56
Sujet:
Habs
If you are trading for Dubois I would keep Anderson, they were great together in CBJ.
Should be looking at moving Armia (you have him a healthy scratch), Hoffman, and Allen if Price is back.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 12 h 53
Sujet:
Whats next
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BadaBing</b></div><div>That is why I added Mysak to counter the cap for Byron. Keep in mind Byron is fast, great penalty killer and could put the puck in the net in clutch situations provided he stays healthy</div></div>
But why? To pay Subban $4M? I think there are better alternatives than dumping Byron.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 12 h 44
Sujet:
Whats next
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nake_qc</b></div><div>I just don't see Byron's value at 3M+ cap hit. And when you think a out it, both Byron and Drouin are I jury prone so the risk is there.
What if Seattle counters with this? :
Drop Byron and swap the 2nd rnd for a 3rd?
Habs get 5M+ in cap relief, and Seattle takes on the risk of having a Dud.</div></div>
I'm still not interested in trading Drouin, but that's a reasonable counter. I agree no team should take Byron without MTL giving a pick, and MTL shouldn't be giving picks with there current state of a rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 10 h 41
Sujet:
Whats next
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheRealisticGuy</b></div><div>Subban won’t cost more than 2M
And no way Seattle make this trade</div></div>
If they have the space, why wouldn't they? Drouin can get a 2nd+ at the TDL retained if he has a good year (which he should given its a contract year). Byron, if healthy could also be flipped with salary retention, if nothing else he is a leader. Mysak is literally a 2nd round pick... so that alone covers the 2nd they are trading.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 10 h 38
Sujet:
Suzuki Slafkovsky and Gallagher
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>the goal here is?.. push caufield to sign an offsheet? would rather put gallagher watch the game from team box for 6.5 mil a year than break up suzuki caufield, if the thought is to get dach a solid winger theres other options but habs are finally close having an actually top line dont need to regress.</div></div>
I actually think Gallagher is the ideal winger for Dach. From what I've seen Dach has very good defensive metrics, so a line of Dadanov - Dach - Gallagher could be a good checking line. Sort of like Tatar - Danault - Gallagher (Dach has a long way to go for faceoffs though).
Edit:
I should say not ideal obviously, but a good spot for Gallagher given the circumstances.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet:
Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>That’s an idiotic thing to say. They can trade his RFA rights anywhere they want. Dubois isn’t a UFA, he can’t forced his way to Montreal right now</div></div>
He can't force the Jets to do anything no, but Dubois is in charge of contract negotiations, therefore MTL has an edge in trade negotiations over any teams Dubois wouldn't sign a long term deal.
8 years of Dubois is worth more than 2 years of Dubois, MTL can justify offering more than other teams. Therefore it is mutually beneficial for WPG to trade Dubois to a destination where he will sign a long term deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 10 h 28
Sujet:
Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>The only down side for Jets fans here is IF Drouin plays 50 games then decides the pressure is too much again and sits out the remainder of the season. They only get the 2nd and he is no longer tradable even with retention but that risk is still just minor.</div></div>
In a contract year I wouldn't be worried about this, Drouin has no choice but to play through any adversity this year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 0 h 27
Sujet:
Rebuild
Reinhart went for a good goalie prospect and a 1st round pick.
Not a chance Dubois gets 3 1st round picks and 2 roster players... if anything he will get less than Reinhart with his off ice antics demanding trades as an RFA (essentially twice now within 2 years).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 0 h 19
Sujet:
Dub boys
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>PLD has the value of Reinhart imo. Sabres got a Florida 1st and an A+ Goalie prospect for Reinhart. Could send Dvorak to offset cap if Price is going to be back allegedly</div></div>
Bang on assessment, the one hiccup being Reinhart didn't pull a stunt like PLD did with CBJ and then refuse to sign a long term deal with the team that traded for him less than 2 years later. It's a bad look which surely will lower the market for Dubois IMO.
However the player comparison to Reinhart is excellent.
Edit:
Also if it is true that he wants to go to MTL then this really corners the market. Based on these assumptions I would expect Dubois to get less than Reinhart.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 0 h 11
Sujet:
Dub boys
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>He's still unneeded. The Q isn't the AHL or NHL.</div></div>
Joshua Roy:
*** Leads the QMJHl in scoring as an 18 year old with 119 pts.
<a href="/users/Windjammer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Windjammer</a> - "Yeah but that isn't the NHL so whatever".
Dubois in the QMJHL at 18:
*** 55 pts in 48 games.
Lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 0 h 6
Sujet:
Dub boys
This probably the type of return WPG would look for at the TDL, so value wise it is good.
However I think they would want a roster player (Dvorak) if this move is made during the offseason, especially since MTL will be signing Dubois to an extension. Plus MTL will need the cap space, Price will likely play at some point.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 0 h 2
Sujet:
Being realistic gonna get me roasted
I'd have Farrell in the no trade column as well. Probably Mailloux and Primeau too seeing as MTL isn't deep at RD or G and neither of them would've the needle much for WPG.
I would trade Beck or Kidney if the package is reasonable personally.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2022 à 23 h 20
Sujet:
Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Defensively very comparable, and what more are you getting out of Duboid offensively? Maybe 25 points?</div></div>
Good post. Dvorak career PPG is 0.5 compared to Dubois 0.66... so over 82 games that is 13 pts. Not a major difference yet Jets fan's (specifically one) has claimed Dvorak is worth a 3rd round pick yet Dubois is worth a top prospect and a 1st round pick in their eyes.
Dvorak is cheaper and only 2 years older. Dubois has more upside, but it's not like he is a superstar... and after what he pulled in Columbus and now that he wants out of WPG not even two full seasons later limits his value around the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2022 à 22 h 0
Sujet:
Montreal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Close, but the 2nd needs to be a first, or the Jets would get more at the TDL in two years. With the 1st Chevy is likely talking.
Zero chance Dubois signs that deal though.</div></div>
How valuable do you consider Dubois to actually be? Career 0.66 PPG and a career high 61 pts.
Reduced value around the league by what he pulled with Colombus and now he wants out of another team not even 2 full seasons later... and he has made it clear his preferred destination is MTL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 15 h 45
Sujet:
chaos trade
Edmonton not on Tkachuk's list of teams he'd sign long term with. I don't think he'd be looking to leave CGY for another Alberta team haha
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 14 h 52
Sujet:
Reasonable Dubois Offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>Jets probably get a late first, third, and good prospect for Dubois as a rental. If they get him to sign a two year deal they could half retain and get an even better return.</div></div>
True, this is essentially the same offer except they get Dvorak & Armia instead of a prospect... so that's the decision.
They could wait 2 years and explore options now, or they can trade Dubois now instead of dragging this out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 14 h 15
Sujet:
Reasonable Dubois Offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>The really is no point in making even that offer to the Jets.
Acquiring PLD now vs as a free agent actually hurts the rebuild more than helps.
Your giving away essentially 2+ 1st round picks worth of value (depending on the deal) right out of the gate. Important to note that Florida 1st is unconditional we could be giving up a top 15 pick if Florida flounders this upcoming year.
He doesnt make the habs a playoff team in the next 2 years where we wouldnt otherwise be. Realistically only a starting goalie or #1 RD could have that impact. The only thing it could do is move us up a couple spots which may take us out of the top 5 next draft which would be undesirable.
Finally the money. Even after this trade we would need to move another person out for the cap unles PLD is signing for 5 million (which isnt happening). He could also pose a problem for the internal cap structure as well</div></div>
I agree, which is why I thought this was a reasonable offer. It's a strong offer from the habs given the circumstances. Jets fan's think Dubois gets 4x this at the TDL lol.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Zero chance Chevy accepts 25% of what Dubois gets at the TDL in two years, including a cap dump that they haven't been compensated for.</div></div>
8 1st round picks coming the Jets way 2023 TDL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 14 h 12
Sujet:
Reasonable Dubois Offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensburgh571</b></div><div>How on earth is a cap dump a third line center and a late 1st a reasonable offer for a 1st line center just entering his prime lmao.
Habs fans are absolutely delusional.
Would you accept this offer for Suzuki???</div></div>
If you can't tell the difference between Suzuki, who is locked up for 8 years, vs Dubois who has 2 years before free agency in which he and his agent has made it clear he wants to go to MTL... then I don't know what to say
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 13 h 59
Sujet:
Reasonable Dubois Offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blues4TheCup</b></div><div>Winnipeg declines. I would say something Like Dvorak, Drouin, Good Prospect and a FLA 1st. Maybe Guhle or Ylonen.</div></div>
Guhle off limits, but Ylonen is an option. Was thinking Jets would prefer Armia over Drouin.
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