Many reports of TML not trading away their 1st. At least without extention.

Everyone saying Grushnikov is a good prospect need to look at his stats this year and last year in juniors. Players who score that little in those lower leagues very rarely make an impact. His ceiling is realistically a bottom pair defenseman

Dallas got what they needed. Calgary and New Jersey got what they wanted. How is this not a fair trade?!?

I don't understand (or agree with) all of the people that are raving about Dallas "winning" this trade. Everyone with a lick of sense knew that Calgary's alleged "demand" of a first for Tanev was puffery. So the Flames ended up with a prospect and a second with a shot for a third. That's a decent return for an expiring asset.

Great deal for Dallas but I don’t hate this return for Calgary either

That would be it

There was that but also Friedman mentioning if the 1st was to go they would be okay as long as 2 players were to come back

Brad would have been fine with it anyways as he was the one who signed both guys in the first place. Like the deal almost happened in NOV it was just ret and some other stuff that shot it down

Either way one could argue CGY should have just made the deal way back in NOV considering the outcomes now

I wish the hawks got in on this, but Dallas probably gate kept them from getting that sweet 4th rounder lol.

OMG! A meaningful trade finally happened...and I'm pissed lol. Dallas easily wins this deal.

Philly and Nashville in playoff spots potential selling seems to be hurting market

Tanev wasnt worth a first this year for the same reason Schenn wasnt worth a first last year. These players are important and useful, but if you dont put up big scoring numbers you just dont have massive value. Every cup winning team needs players like this, but none of them pay big assets or money to acquire them and thats part of the value of them.

What does Brady add to the deal? Was the trade for Jersey initially just retain Tanev and get a fourth? Was the trade sent to the NHL and they were like 'Hey you can't do that since it is technically just New Jersey buying a fourth rounder for 1.125 million', so then the Devils said 'Fine we'll add the signing rights to a guy whose rights expire in a few months and we have no intention of signing' just so they could say they contributed to the deal in some way?

Come on. Last week there were people saying they had to move him because of his durability, and that they risked losing him for nothing with a serious injury.
Now they sold "too low, too early". I wouldn't have been surprised if he got a first, but I didn't think it was a sure thing. If they value Grushnikov as a second, then they did pretty well.

I think they did alright. Seems pretty fair to me. 2nd, decent prospect, and a conditional third. Dallas did alright, too. Warrior D that everybody wants at the deadline, even if he's showing the mileage.

After the Avs whooped them 5-1; my first comment was: "well if that doesn't motivate Dallas to go get Tanev, I don't know what will".

Wow. Dallas easily wins this one. Craig Conroy needs to be fired.

Dallas gets Tanev for barely more than $1 million. They give up a 2nd, 3rd, and a 4th. Artem Grushnikov isn't doing well enough in the AHL to suggest he will be an impact player in the NHL. Meanwhile, Cole Brady will likely become a free agent in August.

Jersey got a 4th for $1.125 million in cap space. That's not bad. I would be happy with that.

In general, if this is the way y’all value your defensive prospects, please do more deals with my team. We’ll give you the value you think they have without question, take them off your hands.

I'm sure they were asking for a 1st. Apparently, no team offered them one, or at least no other team offered them a 1st + a prospect.

How did CAL get fleeced, exactly? Did you talk to some GMs around the league that were offering them a better return? Or are you just not thinking?

Another sad day for Calgary😫

Grushnikov is a DFD lol, of course his points are low

They're already underrating the s*** out of Chris "blocking every puck with his face" Tanev lol. The audacity from these jealous fanbases...

And the 3rd is only if they make it to Stanley Cup final; otherwise it goes away.

Seems pretty fair to me. Might give a slight edge to Dallas with regards to the retention. Getting Tanev at 25% of his cap hit is really good for what they gave up. I might not say the same if they got him at 50%, definitely not if there were no retention.

Why?

Just happy Jim Nill isn’t happy with where the team is. With the salary retention, they still have plenty of room to make another splash.

Even among DFD, his point production is almost nonexistent, which historically doesn’t bode well for a impactful NHL career. He was never playing top minutes in the AHL this year, getting jumped by almost everyone in the defensive totem pole. He was a lesser D prospect than Bischel, Kyrou, White, Minnetian and Bertucci in there system, so not a major loss at all.

IMO, 1st = 2 2nds+3rd

What Calgary got for Tanev: 1 2nd, 1 former 2nd and 1 3rd...

I think Calgary's pretty happy with their return