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Draft day shenanigans and future roster

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2024
Publié: 16 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Habs use both 1st rounders for a combo of Demidov (or Lindstrom) and Levshunov (or Parekh)

The roster below shows the completed roster when they start to compete (2027 on wards)

Players on LTIR are not part of the future and can be traded or just let go when their contracts expire
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Demidov, Ivan
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Levshunov, Artyom
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Reports came out they were close to acquiring Lindholm. So they are still looking for a center
2.
VAN
  1. Newhook, Alex
  2. Reinbacher, David
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Incoming "Pettersson isnt available" well assume he is
3.
MTL
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
FA Signing in 2024
NJD
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2683 500 000 $46 957 082 $1 170 000 $4 117 500 $36 542 918 $
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C, AG
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RFA - 4
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Demidov, Ivan
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C
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Levshunov, Artyom
950 000 $950 000 $
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950 000 $950 000 $
G
RFA
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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NMC
UFA - 3
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AG
RFA
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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M-NTC
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UFA - 3
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AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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AD, AG
UFA - 2
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C
UFA - 2
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AG
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
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16 févr. à 13 h 31
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if the canucks trade petey i dont think that package gets it doen
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Pettersson isn't available especially at that price
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I'm sure I'll see this exact post 175 times before draft day, but I'm not bored of it yet.

Would you take the same trade? A top five pick for a 2C? No, you would not.
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16 févr. à 13 h 35
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I'm sure I'll see this exact post 175 times before draft day, but I'm not bored of it yet.

Would you take the same trade? A top five pick for a 2C? No, you would not.


Columbus arent know for being the brightest org. Considering they were trying to trade for Lindholm ( a 29 year old on a down year) while actively being in the middle of a rebuild. I doubt they hire a genius since they are looking at Jeff Gorton (known idiot)
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Pettersson isn't available especially at that price


Pettersson if he wants out of Vancouver (only way hes available) is worth 4 1st rounders (his offersheet). This package blow that out of the water
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Quoting: squashmaple
I'm sure I'll see this exact post 175 times before draft day, but I'm not bored of it yet.

Would you take the same trade? A top five pick for a 2C? No, you would not.


2nd line center ? Easy a top 20 centermans in the league.....

He haves more points than Zibanejad, Hintz, Scheifele, Stutzle and somes other 1st centermans of somes teams.
16 févr. à 13 h 40
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In this scenario where you have CBJ and your own 2024 pick then at least one of them is included in the Pettersson deal with one of Reinbacher/Slaf/Caufield minimum
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16 févr. à 13 h 41
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Columbus arent know for being the brightest org. Considering they were trying to trade for Lindholm ( a 29 year old on a down year) while actively being in the middle of a rebuild. I doubt they hire a genius since they are looking at Jeff Gorton (known idiot)


Even so, I'd rather have Lindholm than Suzuki. One of them has proven track record of success on a good team with a star player who's in Columbus. I'd be shocked if it's Gorton, since it would be a demotion for him. I'd be even more surprised if JD is still around by draft day. They will not be moving that pick.
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Pettersson if he wants out of Vancouver (only way hes available) is worth 4 1st rounders (his offersheet). This package blow that out of the water


If Pettersson wants out of Vancouver he certainly isn't signing in Montreal, he'd be worth more than what tkchuck got which was 115 point player a top paring dman and a 1st. We are getting a couple late first and a decent defensive prospect which is a bit redundant with Willander and Hronek In the System. A Middle 6 forward at best in Newhook. The package just doesn't interest Vancouver. We'd need Dach+++ coming back at minimum
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16 févr. à 13 h 46
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2nd line center ? Easy a top 20 centermans in the league.....

He haves more points than Zibanejad, Hintz, Scheifele, Stutzle and somes other 1st centermans of somes teams.


I wouldn’t call him a top 20 center

I’d take McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Draisaitl, Pettersson, Hughes, Crosby, Barkov, Point, Eichel, Stutzle, Thomas, Aho, Thompson, Miller, Hischier, Hintz, Barzal, Zibanejad, Scheifele, Kopitar, and Bedard over him. Then some arguable ones as well (JEE, O’Reilly, Kadri, Larkin, Horvat, Mittelstadt, Lindholm, and Trocheck). Yes I know some of those guys aren’t having great seasons but they’re still at the very least in the same conversation as Suzuki
16 févr. à 13 h 48
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If Pettersson wants out of Vancouver he certainly isn't signing in Montreal, he'd be worth more than what tkchuck got which was 115 point player a top paring dman and a 1st. We are getting a couple late first and a decent defensive prospect which is a bit redundant with Willander and Hronek In the System. A Middle 6 forward at best in Newhook. The package just doesn't interest Vancouver. We'd need Dach+++ coming back at minimum


At this point I’m not sure Dach is much more valuable than Newhook considering his injury history. I’d start by asking for Slaf/Caufield++ (or potentially Montreal’s pick or in this scenario CBJ’s included)
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Pettersson if he wants out of Vancouver (only way hes available) is worth 4 1st rounders (his offersheet). This package blow that out of the water


canucks would target an elite roster play or 2, and then maybe a 2st and prospect to even out the value.

suzuki plus mtl 2025 1st plus another piece, kind of return.

none of the pieces you included in the top trqade are even close to a guaruntee
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Columbus arent know for being the brightest org. Considering they were trying to trade for Lindholm ( a 29 year old on a down year) while actively being in the middle of a rebuild. I doubt they hire a genius since they are looking at Jeff Gorton (known idiot)


Where is the source saying they were close to trading for lindholm?

And obviously the jackets decline this trade. Also EP starts with Mtls first and one of reinbacher/slaf/caulfied
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I'm sure I'll see this exact post 175 times before draft day, but I'm not bored of it yet.

Would you take the same trade? A top five pick for a 2C? No, you would not.


If ypur being disingenuous and calling him a 2C.

Hes top 30 in points right now and has selke calibre defensive metrics. Hes a top 20 centre easily right now
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If ypur being disingenuous and calling him a 2C.

Hes top 30 in points right now and has selke calibre defensive metrics. Hes a top 20 centre easily right now


I simply don't consider him to be a 1C on a good team. He's in the same category as Dylan Larkin for me. They're good, not great, and you're not winning in the playoffs with them as your de facto 1C.
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Where is the source saying they were close to trading for lindholm?

And obviously the jackets decline this trade. Also EP starts with Mtls first and one of reinbacher/slaf/caulfied


https://x.com/NHL_Watcher/status/1758528572791120306?s=20

If Pettersson wants to leave, his value isnt gonna be like as if he doesnt want to leave. My trade also includes MTLs 1st and Reinbacher. The additional 1st make up the difference between a 15-20 pick to a 7-10 pick, if not more
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I simply don't consider him to be a 1C on a good team. He's in the same category as Dylan Larkin for me. They're good, not great, and you're not winning in the playoffs with them as your de facto 1C.


Habs made it to a cup final with him as 1C

Danault was played as a defensive 3C during those playoffs.
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I question at what point in the year they were interested in Lindholm. Maybe it was plausible at the start of the season when they were still fooling themselves into believing they were a competitive team, but certainly not close to when he was dealt. The report also says that they decided trading away futures didn't make sense so I don't know why that would change now for Suzuki.
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Quoting: squashmaple
I'm sure I'll see this exact post 175 times before draft day, but I'm not bored of it yet.

Would you take the same trade? A top five pick for a 2C? No, you would not.


You can’t be serious, what does a guy have to do to prove he is a 1C? Suzy is our captain he’s not going anywhere so it doesn’t really matter.
 
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