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Jeff Gorton
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Forum: Armchair-GM3 juin à 0 h 41
Sujet: How angry are the canucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Tuch had put up 50 points before the trade, Newhook just set his career high. Tuch was also better defensively

Mailloux had a great rookie season in the AHL, but Krebs was also ranked as a highly regarded prospect. They are close, and I’m fine calling them even

Pettersson is probably even more valuable than Tkachuk was at the time of his trade now. At worst the same value. Pettersson plays the more valuable position, already has a long term contract, hasn’t requested a trade, and is also a 100+ point player</div></div>

You are incredibly biased if you think Pettersson is more valuable than a guy who had 104 points and was elite defensively when traded.

Tuch had a 50 point year before, but he was also 2 years older than what newhook is now.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juin à 0 h 39
Sujet: How angry are the canucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Give me 3 somewhat recent trades where a team trades an elite player they just signed to an 8 year extension</div></div>

Not an 8 year deal but Jumbo Joe got traded for essentially depth pieces right after signing a 3 year deal worth 20 million in 05-06, in which he ended winning the art ross

Erik Karlsson had 4 years left of 11.5m when he was dealt, oh he also had 101 points as a Dman. Traded for junk

Eichel had 5 years left of a 10m deal and traded for a top 6 winger and junk

Phill Kessel got traded 1 year into his 8 year deal, for junk

Pronger got trade 1 year into his 5 year deal for meh pieces

Brads Richards got traded 1 year onto his 5 year deal

Dan Boyle got traded 1 year into his 6 year deal
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juin à 0 h 10
Sujet: How angry are the canucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Pettersson is a better player than Eichel, has more term, and doesn’t need major neck surgery

Tuch &gt; Newhook
Krebs &gt; Mailloux (slightly)
2022 1st = CGY 1st, 26th overall, Xhekaj bros
2023 2nd &lt; 2025 1st

But the Canucks would want quality in a hypothetical Pettersson trade, not quantity. It starts with at least 1 of those pieces I listed</div></div>

Newhook has 34 points in 55 games while Tuch had 33 in 55 games. So unless youre complete;y biased against Habs players, idk how you think Tuch is better.

Mailloux at 21 just had 47 points in 72 AHL games and looked at home in the NHL, as a rookie. Krebs had 13 in 18 games but then stunk in the NHL while he wasnt even a rookie.

Teams never get quality when they trade a big piece like that, they always get a lot of decent prospects and picks to make up the value. Flames with the Tkachuk trade is the only ones who thought they were getting an elite talent back for an elite player.