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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 10 h 35
Sujet:
How Winnipeg should respond if Montreal decides to offersheet PLD
Caufield is the only one id care about and even then, theyd have to offer 10+ million for the Habs to not match and thats 4 1st rounders.
Try to be petty like the Hurricanes, look how great that worked out for them. Theyve got an overpayed 3C and another 7 years
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 9 h 16
Sujet:
Getting 1 more D and CATAH HAHT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jedihonesy</b></div><div>you have a lot of left handed D (Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Matheson, Edmunson). Habs RHD consists of Savard, Barron, Kovacevic, maybe Mailloux in future. Moving Matheson for Roy would be good. Moving Matheson for Durzi would be even better cause he's younger. Montreals still years away from competing if Matheson is still there when competing id be surprised. Guhle Durzi pairing would be sick.</div></div>
Only way Matheson is moved for another d man from the kings is a deal for Clarke. Habs dont need dmen that badly unless they are major improvements on who we already have. Roy is 28. Only a year younger than Matheson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 15 h 47
Sujet:
Draft day swap idea
Nah we good. habs already got a pick in that area with Floridas
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 5
Sujet:
askarov 1 and rebuild
Habs arent trading for a goalie that they could wait for in UFA when they are actually competing. Now someone like Askarov would make more sense
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 4
Sujet:
What is Dubois Value Now based on Friedman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>For me habs need to beat the Offer Sheet price (1st+3rd). So less than what Jets fans are looking for the «rental offer»!! They don't have any leverage left.</div></div>
habs could offer sheet at 4m (2nd round pick) for 1 year and screw the Jets. cause either they match it and cant trade him for a year or they lose him for a 2nd rounder
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 mars à 21 h 14
Sujet:
Connor and Leon ask out
Thats way too much for a single player
It would be more like
Slafkovsky, Dach, Matheson, FLA 1st 2023, MTL 1st 2024, Cond 2025 1st (lowest of the MTL and CAL pick)
That might even be an overpay for a single player no matter how good they are
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Armchair-GM
13 mars à 18 h 18
Sujet:
Moving McDavid for his Successor
This is bad even as a Habs fan, Guhle is untouchable. So instead of Guhle id throw In Dach, Beck, Harris and probably a 2 top 5 protected 1st rounders
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Armchair-GM
10 mars à 21 h 20
Sujet:
Jets trade Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Debatable</div></div>
Not even close to debatable. Meier has averaged 61 points and 30 goals since 2017-2018 while being good defensively and most of it being on a bad team while Dubois is averaging 57 points and 24 goals while being bad defensively on a better team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 mars à 16 h 45
Sujet:
Jets trade Dubois
Who do you think Dubois is? Thats more than what Meier went for and Meier is a better player
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 17 h 34
Sujet:
Habs draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>How do you consider that trolling?
We still don't have our top 6 C's figured out, we need RD, we need a goalie. We have endless wingers already so I don't see a point in drafting more with our top picks.
If I was trolling I'd tell you to trade our 1sts for that bum in WPG.</div></div>
Habs need Elite players. Cause right now Caufield and Hutson and maybe Guhle are our elite prospects. Defence isnt even that much of a need. You have 6 guys and 3 of them can or are elite already in Matheson (playing like a #2 d man), Hutson, and Guhle. Harris, Barron and Mailloux can fill out the top 6
Now for forwards. Caufield is the only elite player. Suzuki is a 2nd line C, Dach can be the 3rd best player on the 1st line and Slaf is a 60 point player max. farrell, roy and beck are good depth pieces but nothing over 55-60 points on a career year. Thats 6 of the top 9 (you need 9 good forwards to win a cup, not only 6). And they need 1 more elite forward, and 1 good top 6 guy. Dubois can be the good top 6 guy and Benson would be the final elite forward.
Dvorsky is a 2nd line player but 3rd line on a cup team
Reinbacher is like Mailloux or Barron quality so a waste of a pick
Its better to draft the elite player at 5 and trade the 12 (or draft Leonard or Cristall) to complete the forward group
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 9 h 24
Sujet:
Skilled top6 winger
I like the Mantha trade. Would also allow the Habs to trade Anderson for way too much
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 9 h 17
Sujet:
offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Not sure who is the 26th ranked RHD you are referring to but Reinbacher is ranked 7th OVA in this draft as of the 7th by Pronman and ASP is ranked 18th but most mock drafts have both going between 10th and 20th. So if you are referring to one of those 2 guys then yes I want the Habs to select them, my preference is Reinbacher though</div></div>
Pronman is a moron. Dude just likes to be different so people will buy the Athletic to read his garbage. Reinbacher is a low 1st round pick. Hes playing like average in Swiss League. Habs dont need average d men. Barron and Mailloux are at worst on par with Reinbacher but most likely above him.
You drat best player available. And at 5-7 range, one of Benson, Michkov, Cristall or Smith will be available. And at 12-14 range, Leonard, Gulyayev, or Moore will be available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 9 h 10
Sujet:
Habs draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>1st pick : Dvorsky
2nd pick: Reinbacher
3rd pick (trade up to ensure the selection) : Hrabal
I'd be rather disappointed otherwise, personally.</div></div>
Please tell me youre trolling
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 mars à 15 h 50
Sujet:
Habs draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Wild pass pretty easily.</div></div>
Dont think thats too true. They have an extra 2m in cap penalties and need d men considering Dumba and Klingberg are probably gone. And they gotta think about the 7m raise Boldy is getting. Cheap contracted d men with cup pedigree is what they need to stay in the playoffs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 mars à 15 h 18
Sujet:
offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Switch it to the 2024 1st (top 5 protected) and upgrade the 4th to a 3rd and you have a deal. Montreal needs that Florida pick for Reinbacher or Sandin-Pellikka</div></div>
You want the Habs to draft a 26th ranked RHD who isnt even ppg in the SWISS league with probably the 12 overall pick. And no way the Jets take a 2024 pick. Its gonna cost a 2023 1st. And dont give me, well we w9ill get him for free. Yeah we might but its more 10+ million aav and only a 7 year deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 57
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Instead of trying to twist statistics and move the goal posts, just answer the question. List the seasons where Anderson has actually scored 25 goals.
The last 3 years he's had 17, 19 and 18 goals because he never plays a full season.</div></div>
GMS LOOK AT PER 82 GAME STATS holy **** its like talking to a child thats been hit in the head with a metal bat about 20 times.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 55
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>That's what we're doing right now. Educating ignorance. Letting posters know why Anderson isn't a desirable player and no one is giving up anything of value for him. It was Montreal fans on this site, that perpetuated the Anderson will return a 1st and top prospect myth.
Many posters, other than myself, pointed out that it wasn't a realistic scenario, but were anyways shouted down with Montreal fans telling us Hughes had turned down a 1st and top prospect from multiple teams, so that means Anderson is worth more than that. We'd counter back with, without knowing what the other teams were asking Montreal to take back, contract wise, in exchange you can't say Anderson is worth a 1st and top prospect in a vacuum.
So, no matter what logical reasoning was presented it always ended with "Montreal had turned down multiple offers of a 1st plus for Anderson" so that is his value.
For more education on just how bad Anderson's contract is consider that he not only carries that $5.5 cap hit which is awful as it stands. He is also being paid $8.0M next year and $7.0M the year after in real dollars. How do you justify that? How does a team justify that to other players on their team looking for a raise? You can get a far better player than Anderson for $8.0M.
If you're interested in educating the ignorance, why not address the prison that made the ACGM and point our why teams works have no interest in Anderson instead of going after posters that say they doubt their team is taking him on.</div></div>
Ignorance is blatantly disregarding a players MARKET value based on your own PERSONAL feelings on a player. Hes wanted by GMs. Thats a fact. Calgary offered a 1st and Habs rejected it. Thats not 100% factual but there are trusted reporters who reported this. His actual money owed doesnt matter for anyone unless youre a poverty franchise. Youre grasping at straws about an actually decent player who has skills many dont and GMs seem to love. Size and Speed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 42
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>its not that they are just tall, they are also good players. no need to rush the rebuild. there is so much talent in this draft, cant go wrong with many picks. we have also our share off smaller players in caufield, hutson and farrel.</div></div>
You draft best player available and at 7th and 12th, they are nowhere near best player available. And you named 3 small players on a roster of 18. And the ones o named are 5'10-6'0, They arent small.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 33
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Show me the seasons where Anderson has scored 25 goals. Winnipeg has 4 better wingers than him as well as 2 others that are equal to him, but far better defensively. He's a bottom sixer.</div></div>
Gms look at per 82 games metrics. He scored 27 in 2018-2019 and have been at that pace the next year but got injured. And now this year hes back at it and hes not injured. Its really easy. You take the goals he has multiply it by 82 and divide by the amount of games hes played.
The last 3 years of Andy per 82 games
26 goals
22 goals
24 goals
Add that to 17th best xGF/60 among forwards in the ENTIRE league. No spike in SH% and his Corsi goes up with a better team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 26
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You made my point perfectly by using the word "UPSIDE." No one is <strong>predicting</strong> that those players will reach that level, whereas not only did everyone predict that Clarke would be a top-4 defenseman, he showed proof of that estimation in his brief audition with the team. In short, he's the real deal (like Guhle); the others are potentials (like Hutson).</div></div>
See Hutson is the real deal, like these prospects I named. They are that good and everyone would be surprised if they busted. Their floor is top 6 forward. Like how Guhle and Clarkes floors are top 4 d men and Hutsons is top 4 d man. But if you wanna talk about ceilings (which what gms look for), our of all the players mentioned. Clarke has the lowest one
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 21
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Pace doesn't matter for Anderson as he never plays a full season. He's scored 20 goals once and that was 5 seasons ago. Anderson also gets top 6 minutes and PP time on Montreal, because they have nothing else, that he wouldn't get on other teams.
On Montreal Anderson is a top 6 player, on any other team Anderson is an expensive bottom sixer and won't get those minutes, meaning his point levels will drop.</div></div>
Anderson played 61 of the 63 games played this season. show me a team where a 25 goal guy isnt in their top 6 . Once again you talk out of your ass
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 17
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMB</b></div><div>Kings are looking to win now; why trade a ready player for a draft pick and also have to throw in a 3rd. Blake I hope would hang up the phone quickly.</div></div>
Ah yes a ready player with *checks notes* 9 nhl games in a position they dont really need
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 16
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>lol, i would be stocked to have wood or reinbacher</div></div>
Why would you ne stocked to have 2 players who are ranked 16th and 19th respectively (Those are high for me) instead of actual talent like Will Smith, Andrew Cristall, Ryan Leornard, Benson and Michkov. Its not even like the Habs need size anymore. 6 of the future top 9 are either over 6'2 or beefy as hell.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 13
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>That's a laughable proposal to Los Angeles. Brandt Clarke has already proven that he's more likely to be a top-line player than anybody who will be available at #7 in this year's draft. And the only players being considered for that slot (the names above are perfect examples) are forwards and, perhaps, RhDs, which are not positions of need or interest to the Kings.</div></div>
Clarke is on par with Will Smith, Andrew Cristall, Ryan Leornard, With the possibility of Benson and Michkov dropping. All of them have 1st line upside and the last 2 are 90+ point players
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Armchair-GM
7 mars à 10 h 10
Sujet:
If the reports are true
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Completely unrealistic to think Winnipeg is taking back a long term cap dump without being paid to do so.
Where do Montreal fans come up with this crap?</div></div>
Anderson is scoring at a 25 goal pace on this Habs team. And his underlying offensive numbers are good so idk how you consider that a cap dump
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