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Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 15 h 45
Sujet: rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>honestly get over yourself.
Just come back down to reality and admit that 2026 pick is most likely same range.
And if you think people haven't already summed up drafts and make these valuations you are kidding yourself. Players apply for exceptional status at 15. Don't think no one is evaluating them. Whole drafts are pretty much wrapped up on paper years before their draft year. They are just tweeked here and there along the way.</div></div>

Players rise and fall all over the draft rankings during their draft year, let alone 3 years before their draft year. There is zero equivalency between a top 6 pick in 2024 and a completely unknown 1st round pick in 2026. You have no idea what you're talking about, and that's the last I'll be hearing from you.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 10 h 37
Sujet: rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>again, as I said before it depends on what you think of the two draft classes. This years draft isn't exactly deep. Is the 2026 draft deeper.
That supersedes the development time.
while you think it's hard to not finish bottom 3 really it isn't. The penguins got that part down trust me. Been there done that.
You really over value how old that team will be in 2026. Crosby 38 Malkin 39 Rust 33, Rakell 32 EK 35 Letang 38 Acciari 34
It's one thing if it's just Crosby being the old guy on the team trying to play well... but you can't float all that age. That right there spells bottom 3 team. It's not only too many players but too much cap.
Like 40% of the cap tied up in guys who are ancient by NHL standards. Teams like that don't win $#!t. not even middle of the road wins.</div></div>

Regardless of where you think the Penguins will finish, there's zero chance that pick gets traded without protection. It's either a mid pick or a 2027 1st. This is a non-sense proposal that the Jackets don't consider for a second.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 10 h 20
Sujet: rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>This all depends where these picks end. CBJ pick could very well be lower than you think. The pens pick higher than you think as 8-16 is pretty generous. They were in the 8 range already this year. If the last two weeks of the season didn't go as it did they could have finished lower than 8.
So give them 2 years of getting older, and you just don't know what you are going to get.

Again the draft class has a lot to do with it as well. Some are deeper than others. A 10 pick in one is worth more than a 6 pick in another.
Either way, the point is, my estimation of where those two picks end up aren't very far off. Pens could very well be picking top 3 in 2 years. Even with Crosby on the team.
It's not like Dubas has worked some voodoo magic to improve the team.</div></div>

Getting a top 3 pick is a whole lot harder than you're giving it credit for. It's far easier to get stuck in the mushy middle and with the Pens making an effort to continue winning it's very likely that that's exactly where they'll end up. You're also continuing to ignore that adding two years of development time and a complete unknown of the draft position drops the value of that pick a significant amount. You don't get to estimate the value of a proposal off of applying the worst case scenario to one asset and the best case scenario to the other. That's not how that works.

Also, no the CBJ pick can't be lower than I think. It is guaranteed to be top 6. That's how the season being over and knowing the draft lottery positions works.