Matthews is worth much more than Bedard.

Honestly Bedard on an ELC is worth more than Matthews on a max value deal. unless CBJ think they can fight for the cup.

Bedard hasn't skated a single second in the NHL. Regardless of contracts, which Bedard doesn't even have by the way, Matthews has far more value.

Columbus cant take that risk.

Obviously the AM34 trade is the main thing here, but why are you giving ROR 8 years???

In what universe is Austin Matthews, 1 year out from being a UFA , going to be worth as much as 1OA Bedard? For all Columbus knows they could being trading the best player drafted since McDavid in exchange for 1 year of a guy who won't want to sign with them once his deal is up.

Edit:. Karlsson deal looks interesting though

Gee, obscene thought that one year of Matthew is worth all of that.
Karlsson isn't worth all that to Leafs either. The first. third, Niemela and 1.5m Liljegren and 8.4m in cap worth a lot more than a minor retained Karllson.

In what world does TOR trade Auston Matthews for a guy who hasn't even been drafted? Based on something Bedard MIGHT do?

Fixed it for you.

Well the answer is, Leafs would love the trade.....A 1m dollar Bedard for 3 years, and 11m to spend on UFAs. Pretty great trade for the Leafs for one year of Matthews.

Great way to convince players to sign here long term. I'm sure Nylander is just itching to sign his brand new long term deal watching Matthews get traded cause he's a pending UFA. I'm sure Marner the year after is likely to stay too.

Matthews was here a Leaf eight years, Nylander about nine years....That's pretty long term. Bedard would be a Leafs for eight years. Nylander, I'm sure he is itching to sign long term.....with some team. But if Matthews resigns as Leaf, there isn't really;y cap for Nylander if he wants to sign for the biggest contract that he can receive from other teams

So, that's it then? They just trade a near 300 goal scorer at 25 years old, one of the more dominant 2-way C's in the league, and arguably one of the best to ever lace em up for TOR, because he "costs too much"? For a guy who hasn't even been drafted? Based on what people think/assume he can do, and because he's cheaper?

Consider me on the fire Dubas train if he does that.

No doubt Bedard is having a wild season right now. But he is still an unknown at this level. Tavares scored 72 as a 16-year old and then it took him 10 years to score 40 in the NHL. Matthews is already doing it on a yearly basis. Why are they trading away someone where they know exactly what they are getting for a guy they hope can do the same thing? It makes zero sense.

And i'll go on record saying it doesn't make sense for CBJ either. They should draft him and keep him. But trading Matthews for him is dumb.

I wonder how dumb the the Leafs would look if they had an offer by Columbus to trade Bedard for Matthews, and Matthew leaves as UFA in the summer of 2024.

Just goes to show you didn't read anything I wrote. I guess it made sense.

Oh, I did read. it You say it makes no sense for CBJ or the Leafs. I'll disagree it makes no sense for CBJ, and lots of sense for the Leafs.

And the only reason you've suggested is because of the money, which is ridiculous.

TOR spent 7 years working with Matthews developing every other aspect of his game, his offensive ability was already there. Same with Bedard right now.

Now you're suggesting the spend years doing the same from scratch with Bedard. At a time where their win-window is right now. And then expect him to come in and perform at the same level Matthew's brings. It unrealistic. Imagine the overwhelming pressure Bedard is going to feel having to fill Matthews' shoes right away. And then when he ultimately doesn't do that right away, because he shouldn't be expected to at 18, this fan base will rip him to shreds.

But Bedard's cheaper, so I guess that's all that matters.

One of the first EK65 deals that I actually would accept as a Sharks fan.

I am suggesting that Matthews is a UFA in 2024 and he isn't resigning as Leaf, but if you're happy having just 12m in cap when Matthews is gone, I'd be happier having 11m in cap and Bedard.
Now if it's a question of Matthews resigning with the Leafs at 14m, I would prefer that.

I think the problem is that it really makes no sense for either team, BUT it makes less sense for Columbus, unless Matthews signs an extension. At which point cbj isn't giving enough in the trade.

The whole idea of any team getting to draft a player of the caliber of Bedard and trading him is ludicrous. Before McDavid was drafted, they said he's the next Crosby. Could you imagine if they had traded McDavid(the 1st OA) for Crosby?!

It's just an idea that wouldn't happen in this modern NHL.

Toews for 5 years is just as bad.

Yea I stopped listening to him when he went "Matthews is to expensive"

You pay guys like this not let them go and divide the money

So then if we go by that logic Oilers should let McDavid or Draisaitl go as they will be to expensive.

No GM thinks that way of their franchise player. Only reason JT left NYI was he wanted to go home. Now it was not good of him to in a sense trick the NYI and Gaudreau and that car ride will forever be in Flames fans heads. To me its this if AM is not extended by the TDL hes getting traded for the biggest package in NHL history but I feel were gonna see a 6 year 14.34mill deal

So let's say we get to the TDL next season, he's not signed, but we are in the exact same spot in the standings we are now, you're trading him?

You've lost the room at that point, trade them all. You're not going anywhere.

Any way you slice it, there is no good scenario for trading him. The extreme is yeah they may lose him for nothing, but that's just the way it is. Sometimes it happens.

It's the same scenario Calgary was in with Gaudreau. People pretend and argue that if he had told them before the TDL that he was going to test free agency they would have traded him, but there's no chance they would have done that with how they were looking going into the playoffs. Columbus with Panarin and Bobrovsky is another one. You don't trade core players before a playoff run just because they might not re-sign.

Bingo. That's a risk you take, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

Lets say were in the same standing but lose round 2 making him go u know what I want to go to FA. So then we lose a franchise player for nothing

Not a good outlook and one Toronto fans would never let go

At least by trading him for a haul (Like Tkachuck for Huberdeau+Weegar) u keep the team in a good position and get assets back

As even with a few months left the pkg's offered would be record breakers.