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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness

19 déc. 2022 à 16 h 34
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Cool but how does this affect the Toronto Maple Leafs?


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How does this affect the Edmonton Oilers


Who is the next Canadian team on your list?
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19 déc. 2022 à 16 h 45
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Quoting: oilersguy








when the analytics cult likes a signing its usually good sign. Good work done today by Holland, wasn't expecting this to be done so soon


Another perfect example of why not to overpay in the UFA Goalie market.

Campbell, Markstrom, Lehner, Bob, Grubauer, and so on....

All of the above (and many other around the league) have been far outplayed by Goalies that are younger, cheeper, or both. Recent history has clearly shown us that you don't need a $5M+ AAV Goalie to win.
19 déc. 2022 à 16 h 53
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Another perfect example of why not to overpay in the UFA Goalie market.

Campbell, Markstrom, Lehner, Bob, Grubauer, and so on....

All of the above (and many other around the league) have been far outplayed by Goalies that are younger, cheeper, or both. Recent history has clearly shown us that you don't need a $5M+ AAV Goalie to win.


I'd still rather have Vasilevskiy at 9.5M than any of those below 5M goalies.
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19 déc. 2022 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: Brian2016
Another perfect example of why not to overpay in the UFA Goalie market.

Campbell, Markstrom, Lehner, Bob, Grubauer, and so on....

All of the above (and many other around the league) have been far outplayed by Goalies that are younger, cheeper, or both. Recent history has clearly shown us that you don't need a $5M+ AAV Goalie to win.


Well hey it gives us something to laugh at so I say lets keep it going lul

As remember Holland tampered to get Campbell and look how that turned out

I think Lehner's fine for the price just needs to get healthy. Everyone else yeah its a woops deal
19 déc. 2022 à 17 h 16
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Well hey it gives us something to laugh at so I say lets keep it going lul

As remember Holland tampered to get Campbell and look how that turned out

I think Lehner's fine for the price just needs to get healthy. Everyone else yeah its a woops deal


The leafs made it well known that they weren't going to sign Campbell just like they did with Hyman
19 déc. 2022 à 17 h 21
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In case anyone’s wondering why we’re seeing some contracts + trades today, the holiday roster freeze comes into effect tonight I think and lasts until the 28th
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19 déc. 2022 à 17 h 23
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The leafs made it well known that they weren't going to sign Campbell just like they did with Hyman


They never made it clear lul. 2 weeks before free agency reports came out saying a deal was in place ready and waiting for Jack by the Oilers, Holland never got permission to have talks with Campbell and thus affected negotiations. Tampering in prime view

Leafs actually tried till the end to keep Hyman and were in talks with Campbell a day before but the price wasnt there. Either way hes got a 5mill backup to anchor so that will teach him not to tamper next time
19 déc. 2022 à 17 h 44
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In case anyone’s wondering why we’re seeing some contracts + trades today, the holiday roster freeze comes into effect tonight I think and lasts until the 28th


29th I believe, but yes, you are right.
19 déc. 2022 à 18 h 38
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29th I believe, but yes, you are right.


Ngl it'd be a pretty salty feeling to find out at Christmas time that you just got dealt, potentially to the other side of the entire continent.
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19 déc. 2022 à 18 h 40
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Ngl it'd be a pretty salty feeling to find out at Christmas time that you just got dealt, potentially to the other side of the entire continent.


Yah I think the Christmas freeze is a good thing to have.
19 déc. 2022 à 20 h 19
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19 déc. 2022 à 20 h 30
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Nic Dowd is an elite 1c
19 déc. 2022 à 20 h 38
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A 3 way trade wow

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/661127

We got our trade quota for the week people
19 déc. 2022 à 20 h 43
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If Kevin Hayes gets bought out where does he end up as to me he still is useful but that contract is just ass
19 déc. 2022 à 21 h 25
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Would like to add Dowd to this list and Hunter Shepard. Also Oshie twice.


Quoting: capsfan2121
Nick Backstrom, Hip
Connor Brown, ACL
Lars Eller, Upper body
Carl Hagelin, Hip
Beck Malenstyn, Finger
TJ Oshie, Lower body
Tom Wilson Knee
Alexander Alexeyev, Shoulder
John Carlson, Lower body
Martin Fehérváry, Upper body
Dmitry Orlov, Lower body
Darcy Kuemper, Upper body
Nic Dowd
Hunter Shepard
Milano sickness(not an injury but causing him to miss todays game)
Nak suspension also made him miss games


Kuzy just left the game early. Shoulder/arm


Nvm he is good
19 déc. 2022 à 21 h 45
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19 déc. 2022 à 21 h 46
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Ovi did that once against Vegas I think one time. I forget when tho


https://youtu.be/tZrH89WO2vQ

This year in April. I remember roasting Vegas on twitter actually when this happened.
They asked why ovi would do that. And I said it’s called class. Something you guys don’t have.


Felt elite there
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19 déc. 2022 à 21 h 54
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If Kevin Hayes gets bought out where does he end up as to me he still is useful but that contract is just ass


I'd say it depends on the $$ & term first - then the probable team(s) can be sought!

* Do you think he can he be signed, post-buyout, to something between US$2.5M to $4M per yr and @ 3, or 4, or 5yr term (ie: total contract worth range of US$10M to $15M)?
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19 déc. 2022 à 22 h 48
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If Kevin Hayes gets bought out where does he end up as to me he still is useful but that contract is just ass


Boston, 5 mill x 2
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19 déc. 2022 à 23 h 28
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Tage Thompson will score 60 this season
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19 déc. 2022 à 23 h 37
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Boston, 5 mill x 2


Bruins are up against the Cap & old-pre KH.
If Hayes was to sign for US$5M THEN that's gonna be 13-signed and about US$60M allocated for '23-'24 before puck drop on the new season (& WITHOUT PASTA & his +/- $10MIL per)...

Not gonna happen...
19 déc. 2022 à 23 h 43
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I'd say it depends on the $$ & term first - then the probable team(s) can be sought!

* Do you think he can he be signed, post-buyout, to something between US$2.5M to $4M per yr and 3, or 4, or 5yr term (ie: total contract worth range of US$10M to $15M)?


I think less

As his buyouts pretty good for what hes owed so u might be able to get him on a cheap 1 or 2 year deal

Like 2.25mill x 1 year aint bad as he can go play with say JT and Marner or Stamkos and Kucherov then go get a big fat deal later.

As I believe the buyout is 2.5mill yr 1, 4.6mill 2 years, 1.6mill remaining 3 years
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19 déc. 2022 à 23 h 56
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I think less

As his buyouts pretty good for what hes owed so u might be able to get him on a cheap 1 or 2 year deal

Like 2.25mill x 1 year aint bad as he can go play with say JT and Marner or Stamkos and Kucherov then go get a big fat deal later.

As I believe the buyout is 2.5mill yr 1, 4.6mill 2 years, 1.6mill remaining 3 years


Then he'll sign with any top CUP-club as a first option - (BOS/NJ/CAR/TOR/TBL/COL etc.) chase a CUP and be very happy...
19 déc. 2022 à 23 h 59
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Then he'll sign with any top CUP-club as a first option - (BOS/NJ/CAR/TOR/TBL/COL etc.) chase a CUP and be very happy...


Yep, as to who I have no idea. With a cap strapped world potentially coming again a bought out Hayes gonna be on many contenders bucket lists as if u can get a 50+ point guy for 2mill do it (hes on pace rn for almost 80 points I believe)
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20 déc. 2022 à 0 h 13
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Yep, as to who I have no idea. With a cap strapped world potentially coming again a bought out Hayes gonna be on many contenders bucket lists as if u can get a 50+ point guy for 2mill do it (hes on pace rn for almost 80 points I believe)


True as 'Gerry Bettman' yakked about - the "$4M rise" is more like another $1MIL...that fact would def give him more value - if he (agent) stays on BUDGET!


Although, his mention (Gary) was a shot across the NHLPA bow saying it could go higher if you chaps play ball!!!
 
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