I wonder if anyone who thinks Arizona won, or Douglas has a bright NHL future know anything about him beyond him being 6 foot 9....

"and will add a locker room presence"

Your boy Douglas has never been in an NHL locker room though?

Great deal! All seriousness aside though: when will the Leafs stop picking up players that are two years removed of their "prime" (I can't find the right word and hope you understand)?

Timmins, Simmonds, Barrie, Petruzelli, Mete, Clifford, Murray, Muzzin, Mrazek, Ritchie, Rittich, Foligno, Thornton, (Riley) Nash, Galchenyuk, Clarkson, Ceci, Marleau, Aston-Reese, Plekanec...

Who will it be next?

Yeah, uh-huh, you know what it is
SOO GREYHOUNDS
SOO GREYHOUNDS
SOO GREYHOUNDS
SOO GREYHOUNDS

Sandin will be happy

you cant go on waivers if you were never in the NHL

You must get a lot of use out of this picture

So when healthy

Rielly-Brodie
Sandin-Liligren
Gio-Timmins

Not bad should work till TDL

4th line guy who could be fun is all I can say about him.

Maybe a nice little hard hitting 4c who if needed drops the gloves and screens goalies. But thats it.

Marchment I feel was just some weird example as nobody saw that kind of guy. And to be fair it was the final year of his 3 year stay in Florida he showed he can be top 9

A possible NHLer for a never NHLer. Also factor in Leafs being desperate for dmen. Hard to see an Arizona win here, not sure what y'all are smoking.

Why, you just gave away a solid defenseman Prospect who is already seeing minutes in the NHL to Toronto for a guy you don't need

its trues that douglass is really gonna be loved by the arizona AHL club.

Those guys are all at different ages. What are you trying to say?

Marchment is a complete fluke and essentially unpredictable. Only other guy I can think of with a similar career progression is Alexander burrows.

The last time that marchment had 18 goals in any league (minors, junior, NHL, etc) before he had 18 last year was 13 YEARS OLD IN THE OJHL in 2013-2014.

That was a freaky unexpected development.

EDITED TO CORRECT: I made a math fail. He was 18 not 13. But still it was major junior pre OHL

I say fair deal. Neither will amount to anything.

If that's all you have to pay for a lottery ticket like Timmins, you do it in a heartbeat. If he stays healthy, TOR could have something here.

Exactly

Like if Marchment played how he did in Florida he would have been a leaf till he was a UFA. But he didnt show us anything special and really it was his final year in Florida where he woke up and went off

Wi for the Leafs.

I have not voted on this one because i think both teams lose. Arizona gets a player that teams keep being tantalized by his size (Dallas drafted him and dropped him, Ottawa gave him a coffee in Belleville and dropped him. Leafs signed him gave him a long look saw he could not produce in the AHL and dropped him, Arizona are you seeing a pattern here? For the Leafs yes, they gave up very little for an NHL guy but an NHL guy who has missed more time as a pro than he has spent on any roster and their purpose is to use him as an injury fill-in which given his history is a mighty big risk given, they are counting on him in a big way. Dekeyser or Russell while close to the end of their usefulness have both remained healthy throughout their careers and would have been a much safer idea.

Is no one gonna talk about how screwed floppy leaves are!?!

The solution to their inexperienced/injury plagged Dcore is ... an injury plagged 24 y.o. who haven't been able to play 100 games since turning pro 4 years ago?

Enjoy the W on paper now, because it would be very surprising Timmins will have any impact at all.

Timmins actually being able to play on a regular basis would be a minor miracle with his injury issues. If this is the answer for the Leafs brass, Leafs nation is truly down bad!

Arizona should have just played him. It's not like they can't afford to drop a game if he struggles. If it's true that they were looking at assigning him to Tucson at the end of his conditioning stint, then they did well to get something rather than lose him to waivers. Presumably they see something in Douglas.

He's shown he can be a decent defenseman when he plays. Shame about the injury history. Leads take a flier on a guy with higher upside and potential to play in the top four if he can stay healthy and get in game shape. Didn't give up much.

Looks like a win for Toronto to me, but not a steal because I can just as easily see a future where Timmins doesn't play 40 games for them -- in fact that's probably more likely than Timmins playing a major role for Toronto. But good for them, and I hope he does well because he's had a rough start to a career.

Fringe NHLer for a AHL player. Don't see why this isn't a Leafs win.

Two reclamation projects traded that will likely help their new teams more than they were helping their old teams. Call it an even trade.

DeKeyser and Russel are both actively bad. May as well take a lottery ticket shot. I'd rather play Mete or one of our depth prospects/AHLers (Kral, Hollowel, etc) than DeKeyser or Russel.

Also "Babantunue" has never been in a NHL or AHL locker room. What does he know about Douglas's presence?"