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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #12 - On The Links

2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 48
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Quoting: csick
Horvat to Columbus


I feel like it would just be the same situation with Miller: a good player on a very low contract for his play that’s going to price his way out of Columbus. It’s just gonna end up as “Columbus gives away high-quality assets for nothing” in 2 years
2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: Bobcat205
I feel like it would just be the same situation with Miller: a good player on a very low contract for his play that’s going to price his way out of Columbus. It’s just gonna end up as “Columbus gives away high-quality assets for nothing” in 2 years


Horvat's next contract is going to be a bit lower now since Miller is easily the better player by a fair margin. Would be much more affordable to sign. I just hope its with the Canucks
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2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 54
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Which contract ages the worst the quickest, Kadri or Miller?
2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 55
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Quoting: Juiceman
Got some evidence to back this up?


Are you trying to argue that Rathbone has high IQ in the D zone and neutral zone? What makes lundkvist special is he makes the right play in all 3 zones most of the time, which is why his floor is very good 2nd pair D. Rathbone is strictly an offensive defenseman
2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 56
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Which contract ages the worst the quickest, Kadri or Miller?


Kadri. He is already 3 years older than Miller. Both signed for same term, and Miller is better right now
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2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 57
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Miller contract makes no sense for the Canucks - they better hope boeser performs well enough to return a #2-3 D
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2 sept. 2022 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: Db1899
Miller contract makes no sense for the Canucks - they better hope boeser performs well enough to return a #2-3 D


I honeslty don't know what our management team is planning. At least one of our forwards gets traded
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 0
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Canucks should get Murphy. Send Poolman , Hoglander and a 2nd round pick . Or something like that. Or just Poolman and a protected 1st
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 1
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Quoting: Juiceman
I honeslty don't know what our management team is planning. At least one of our forwards gets traded


hughes to nj
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 1
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Quoting: csick
Canucks should get Murphy. Send Poolman , Hoglander and a 2nd round pick . Or something like that. Or just Poolman and a protected 1st


Would rather get somebody better than Murphy is we are trading Hoglander and a second
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 2
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
Jack Hughes to Vancouver in exchange for OEL


Interesting proposal
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 3
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Quoting: Juiceman
Would rather get somebody better than Murphy is we are trading Hoglander and a second


So many teams are after good RDs but not that many available . Maybe Severson or Mayfield or maybe Peeke . But none of those guys really move the needle except maybe Severson .
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 9
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I honeslty don't know what our management team is planning. At least one of our forwards gets traded


The only way it somewhat makes sense is if they waive myers + Poolman and trade for actual top 4 RD. This current D group isn’t getting them past the 1st rd
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: Db1899
The only way it somewhat makes sense is if they waive myers + Poolman and trade for actual top 4 RD. This current D group isn’t getting them past the 1st rd


The only move I can think of is :
Poolman + Hoglander + pick for someone
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: Db1899
The only way it somewhat makes sense is if they waive myers + Poolman and trade for actual top 4 RD. This current D group isn’t getting them past the 1st rd


I can't see us waiving Myers. He averages like 25 minutes a night for us.
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 15
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Quoting: csick
The only move I can think of is :
Poolman + Hoglander + pick for someone


They should get two of Sandin/Lundkvist/Bear
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 20
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Quoting: Db1899
Miller contract makes no sense for the Canucks - they better hope boeser performs well enough to return a #2-3 D


To me the Canucks wanted to trade Miller for a ton of young talent, overplayed their hand, then couldn’t let him walk and signed him to this
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
To me the Canucks wanted to trade Miller for a ton of young talent, overplayed their hand, then couldn’t let him walk and signed him to this


Kinda the opposite. They wanted to sign Miller, it seemed unlikely he would re-sign so they began shopping him, then he has a kid and decides to just take the offer. He was originally asking for 9+
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 22
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To me the Canucks wanted to trade Miller for a ton of young talent, overplayed their hand, then couldn’t let him walk and signed him to this


They should have taken chytil , lundkvist, 1st before the deadline. Pretty sure that was offered
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 24
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At first when I saw 8mil for 7 years to Miller I was like way too much but he’s actually been pretty much a consistent point-per-game player in Vancouver, he won’t put up 99 points again but he’ll most likely be a 70-80 point guy there for a while
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2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
At first when I saw 8mil for 7 years to Miller I was like way too much but he’s actually been pretty much a consistent point-per-game player in Vancouver, he won’t put up 99 points again but he’ll most likely be a 70-80 point guy there for a while


The last 2-3 years of the deal being an anchor is inevitable though
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Juiceman
Kinda the opposite. They wanted to sign Miller, it seemed unlikely he would re-sign so they began shopping him, then he has a kid and decides to just take the offer. He was originally asking for 9+

So was Kadri lol. Nobody ever gets what they want.
2 sept. 2022 à 19 h 55
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Reports say Miller's contract is HEAVILY front loaded which means it is likely at least buyout friendly
2 sept. 2022 à 20 h 8
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Quoting: Juiceman
Reports say Miller's contract is HEAVILY front loaded which means it is likely at least buyout friendly


Doesn't that mean the exact opposite?

For instance, Jamie Benn's contract was extremely frontloaded, which made it buyout proof.

Meanwhile Philippe Myers' contract was backloaded, which meant that buying him out now would've net positive cap.
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2 sept. 2022 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: Juiceman
Reports say Miller's contract is HEAVILY front loaded which means it is likely at least buyout friendly


His buyout is permanently 2.6m aav dead cap (whether it’s 2023 or 2027) - he’s already in calculator to check it out.

Contract could be updated but that’s what CF says currently.
 
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