I just find this whole drill incredibly odd. I mean Seider was rated NHL average in everything lmfao, our Calder winner is just an average player.
And I get it’s u23, but man Dahlin has 277 games played, this dude should not be included in this drill.
I mean it’s not a prospect pool ranking, that’s what Wheeler does in like January. Why should a team be penalized for their 22yo being a top NHLer already? That’s the point of the pipeline rankings. A 20yo NHLer is still going to be a big part of the future of the team, arguably moreso than a 22yo prospect 🤷♂️
Also on Pronman’s skill evaluations, he’s notoriously tough on guys (especially skating). He has 6 tiers, but Elite is basically exclusively McDavid for skating for example. His argument is that nobody is close to McDavid, so why should McDavid share the tier? And honestly it’s kind of justifiable. Most guys are pretty close to average at these individual skills, so being above or below average means a lot more with that context. It’s also evaluating junior players against NHL averages lol
On Wheeler vs. Pronman, I find Wheeler to be a lot like typical public perception, loving guys like Lane Hutson for example. Pronman seems more “realistic” or how NHL teams look at guys, which is arguably more helpful insight. Wheeler will tell you a prospect’s best case scenario, Pronman will tell you what their likelihood of reaching it is. So on Gushchin for example, he’s got great speed and skill that is on full display in junior. But that doesn’t always translate up levels, as the NHL is much more structured, and the guys that are just as skilled but also big rise to the top. For a little guy, there are always the physical challenges, and I feel like for the most part they’ve gotta seize a top 6 role quickly, and if they don’t they can’t fall back into a bottom 6 role (for example like a guy Pronman was high on in Reid Schaefer, if he doesn’t pan out as a top 6 power forward, he’ll probably still be an effective checker). Like Gaudreau spent 3 years in college, then put up 64 points (I believe on the first line) in his DY+4. DeBrincat scored 28 NHL goals in his DY+2. Point put up 18 goals in his DY+3. Gushchin doesn’t seem like he’s cracking the NHL this year, which really lowers his chances of making it. If he’s not cemented a top 6 job by the end of camp a year from now, he’s probably not making it based on how similar players typically develop, which is why Pronman would have him lower than a guy with lower upside but higher likelihood of making it (like Kniazev).