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(CHI/CBJ) - Boqvist, 1st, 1st, 2nd for Jones, 1st, 6th

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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 11
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Outstanding trade for Columbus, i mean nothing against Jones he’s a great player but that a lot to give up
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 11
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what kills this even more is CBJ landed Jake Bean for a 2nd tears of joy
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 12
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
The worst trade in Chicago Blackhawks history.


They traded Phil Esposito
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 12
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Quoting: athrin
that is a major understatement, NYR and COL are most likely LIVID over the 9.5M per that jones got


cale makar at joe sakic

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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 16
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rip kivlenieks
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I will gladly find Stan Bowman's house and hand deliver him a laxative laced DoorDash.
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 17
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Stan Bowman everyone
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 18
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
The worst trade in Chicago Blackhawks history.


Why? Is Jones not worth a top 10 draft pick? Hawks have no legit top RD for couple of season ahead.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 18
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I actually thought this trade was fair until I saw the contract, OMG.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: Pete
Why? Is Jones not worth a top 10 draft pick? Hawks have no legit top RD for couple of season ahead.


He sucks. Boqvist will be better than him next season and beyond.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: TheFlamesFanatic25
8 YEAR 9.5 MIL AAV #FIRESTANBOWMAN


If this really happened then I have to sign the above post.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 24
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I hate Stan Bowman. All that for a glorified 3rd pair defenseman who was good once several years ago. At this point, I'm surprised Bowman said no to Dach and Debrincat being involved. Frankly, I'm shocked they both aren't going the other way.

The really bad part for Bowman, if Dach AND Debrincat went the other way, it still wouldn't be his worst trade of the last 5 years... looking at you, Panarin.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 27
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
He sucks. Boqvist will be better than him next season and beyond.


Hi, don't think Boqvist will be at Jones level at some point. But changed my mind on this trade after reading the comments about Jones extension. If true Hawks made a big mistake.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 28
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Nah.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Depends how you define "good d-man".


He’ll anchor your top pair, run the power play, and eat minutes.

He really is a good/great D-Man.

8 x 9.5 good? Ehhhhhhhhhh

If I had to guess, he probably came at CBJ with an ask in this range, and they said no chance. Same thing happened with Bobrovsky.
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23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 30
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paul fenton traded for one of the wild's best scorers and was booted after one year

bowman has put the hawks through neverending cap hell and player mismanagement and he's been around for twelve years and counting smh
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: dopplsan
He’ll anchor your top pair, run the power play, and eat minutes.

He really is a good/great D-Man.

8 x 9.5 good? Ehhhhhhhhhh

If I had to guess, he probably came at CBJ with an ask in this range, and they said no chance. Same thing happened with Bobrovsky.


He's good on the PK but not on the PP and he plays minutes but he isn't good in those minutes. He hasn't been a top4 D over the past two years.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
The worst trade in Chicago Blackhawks history.


I feel like there has to be worse. Blackhawks have been around a long time. And you're still getting a great player, but yeah, biiiiig payment.
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 33
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Fleece by CBJ, Jones is not worth this much
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 37
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Quoting: bhavikp27
He's good on the PK but not on the PP and he plays minutes but he isn't good in those minutes. He hasn't been a top4 D over the past two years.


Even if he’s not with CBJ, I’ll still root for him/ rep him.

But that contract. Oof.

And not playing with Werenski too. Who will he slot in with in CHI, out of curiosity?
23 juill. 2021 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: dopplsan
Even if he’s not with CBJ, I’ll still root for him/ rep him.

But that contract. Oof.

And not playing with Werenski too. Who will he slot in with in CHI, out of curiosity?


it'd be cool if they paired him with his brother ig
23 juill. 2021 à 21 h 8
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So only an hour after cringing at Ekman Larssons contract.... it doesnt look nearly as bad now. Still prefer Jones over Larsson- but $2mil per more...for 8 seasons (starts in 1yrs time) and gave up more way more picks/prospects.
If Garland scores 30 goals on the 2nd line in Vancouver...that deal might look like a great move.
23 juill. 2021 à 21 h 34
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I’d like to again thank PHI for likely being the sole reason CBJ got that 2nd, possibly even the additional 1st.
24 juill. 2021 à 3 h 4
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Thought we would’ve learned after the last draft day trade with the Jackets….

In all seriousness, this has the potential to be one of the worst trades in recent history and that contract Jones got might start weighing us down the moment it kicks in. I was actually feeling really good about this team’s direction and future and we just gave a nice chunk of it away for a second pairing defenseman….
24 juill. 2021 à 3 h 48
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I usually go with the team that gets the best player, if I pick a winner. Jones is the best player in the deal, but it's an overpayment for a rental d-man, and the new deal they gave him somehow made the trade worse. CBJ wins this one easily.
25 juill. 2021 à 10 h 34
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This offseason just seems like GMs were cooped up too long and went nuts. I remember at the Vegas draft there were rumors of top 4 RHD being expensive, but they didn't move because teams wanted too much, this summer they seem expensive but GMs are just throwing assets at them like crazy.

This trade is just bad for Chicago no matter how you look at it. Jones isn't the level of defender they just paid for in terms of assets or cap hit, and you are likely buying most of his decline. To make matters worse, even if Jones is a top 5 NHL defensemen, this team isn't at a stage where adding that player would have been a good move anyway. So basically paid for an asset they didn't really get, and even if they do get that level of performance, they likely wasted the assets simply because they misjudged how close their team is to contention.

I think Jones has always been a little overrated, and while he is probably better than he looked last year, it's unlikely he lives up to that contract or trade, and I wouldn't be shocked if in 2-3 years Boqvist is more valuable than Jones on his own.
 
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