SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/NHL

John Chayka

24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 0
#51
Formerly Jamiepo
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 21,157
Mentions "j'aime": 10,700
Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
The number was too high for him to sign a max contract with a contending team? How come it is not too high for Eichel to sign an 8 year contract with a re-building team?

Eichel signed with a lower cap and did not have anywhere near Matthews 5v5 goal scoring stats. It is what it is. You negotiate as best you can but in the end the power is in the players hand. If he hits rfa he is swimming in offer sheets.

You should go back and check the offer sheets in the agm’s here. They were ridiculous.
ThePostLiker et Random2152 a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 1
#52
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 938
Mentions "j'aime": 253
Quoting: Bf3351
I'm actually very happy to be a Kings fan. I rather be in the Kings situation than then Leafs who are in for a LOT of disappointment in the near future.

They are 23 and combine for over 22M in cap lol...


To be honest, though, the Kings also have 21M on two players who aren't getting younger. Just one 11M player away from the Leafs situation. Just sayin'
GenXHockey, ThePostLiker, Random2152 and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 1
#53
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2020
Messages: 6,838
Mentions "j'aime": 5,304
Quoting: Bf3351
Complete? You know what it means to have a complete team? Your defense is atrocious. The only way you win is by outscoring the amount of goals scored on you. That doesn't fly in the playoffs as you've already seen. I mean if you're happy with a great regular season/1st round team then so be it lmao


I mean... yeah
ThePostLiker et Random2152 a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 2
#54
Démarrer sujet
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 1,743
Mentions "j'aime": 569
Quoting: Bf3351
Complete? You know what it means to have a complete team? Your defense is atrocious. The only way you win is by outscoring the amount of goals scored on you. That doesn't fly in the playoffs as you've already seen. I mean if you're happy with a great regular season/1st round team then so be it lmao


He is those type of fans who will still call the Leafs cup contenders while sitting 31st in the league
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 3
#55
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I don't think the Yotes are more than a middle of the pack team, and I don't think he's done a good job of setting them up to be more than that.

I think player development, and asset management under Chayka have not been good enough. They don't do a great job of developing young players, and when they trade them, they go on to be much better players elsewhere.


That's fair, I'm not familiar about that part of the organization to say if that's true or not. So I cannot comment or speculate on that.
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 4
#56
Formerly Jamiepo
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 21,157
Mentions "j'aime": 10,700
Quoting: Bf3351
Complete? You know what it means to have a complete team? Your defense is atrocious. The only way you win is by outscoring the amount of goals scored on you. That doesn't fly in the playoffs as you've already seen. I mean if you're happy with a great regular season/1st round team then so be it lmao


8 more goals scored against the leafs than the predators ( quoting @palhal here) I mean really the leafs are middle of the pack on defense and have some young guys developing. Sure I would love an upgrade on D but what team wouldn’t?

I think team defence is going to be the focus. It’d funny whenever anyone on here talks about defence they centre 2 players on the ice at a time.
ThePostLiker, oneX et palhal a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 4
#57
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2019
Messages: 5,011
Mentions "j'aime": 1,636
Quoting: Bf3351
Here's an idea, trade Matthew's and add spare parts for Tkachuk, Monahan, and Andersson. Trade Marner for Dumba and Kaprizov also maybe swap Kerfoot with Staal retained.

Hyman Tavares Kaprizov
Tkachuk Monahan Nylander
Mikheyev/Johnsson Staal Kapanen
Clifford Guathier Spezza

Rielly Andersson
Muzzin Dumba
Sandin Holl

Anderson
Campbell

Bam, you got yourself a real contender and possibly one that can repeat.


I always see you bashing Marner & emphasizing what a trash player he is, yet you think he can fetch a high value return like Kaprizov & Dumba? Doesn’t make sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, it will be for much less than that cuz with a flat cap, there won’t be many teams interested in taking on his salary.

My ideal trade would be to send him to Pittsburgh for Patric Hornqvist, Sam Lafferty (two hard working gritty forwards with skill), Jack Johnson (top pairing RD, just a bit older) & Chad Ruhwedel (depth D). I suggest posting a thread of the trade I suggested.
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 5
#58
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 938
Mentions "j'aime": 253
Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
He would at least not be afraid enough to trade one of the big four when it comes down to building a strong defensive system. His Coyotes are third for goals against. We already have the offence built by Dubas. All we need is the defence built by him.


Chayka also made some weird acquisitions, though (Stepan, Kessel, ...). He's been hit-and-miss. I agree on the point that defence is an ongoing issue, though.
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 6
#59
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: Jamiepo
Eichel signed with a lower cap and did not have anywhere near Matthews 5v5 goal scoring stats. It is what it is. You negotiate as best you can but in the end the power is in the players hand. If he hits rfa he is swimming in offer sheets.

You should go back and check the offer sheets in the agm’s here. They were ridiculous.


The only thing Matthew's can do better than Eichel is goal scoring so chill dude. If I had to pick on of the two to build my franchise around. It would be Eichel. He's more team oriented and a more complete player. Not going to break my bank.
ThePostLiker et MisstheWhalers a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 8
#60
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: leaflet
To be honest, though, the Kings also have 21M on two players who aren't getting younger. Just one 11M player away from the Leafs situation. Just sayin'


That player is actually doing just fine, Doughty isn't as bad as people say, just watch him. Kopitar would have had over 70 points year if it didnt end. We also aren't cap crunched because of them and wont be for a long time. Research my team and their cap.
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 10
#61
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2018
Messages: 17,115
Mentions "j'aime": 12,144
Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Sounds like Dubas and the Leafs overall.


The Leafs are a very good drafting and developing team? Like there's a lot to be critical about the Leafs, but they're very good at finding NHL players in the late rounds, as well as in undrafted free agents.
ThePostLiker, Random2152 et oneX a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 10
#62
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I mean... yeah


You're pretty dumb too, aren't ya?wink
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 10
#63
Kings v5 GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 4,768
Mentions "j'aime": 1,626
Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Basically replacing a guy who bases 90% of his hockey opinions on analytics with another who's rumored to do that? Lol


Chayka doesnt really base anything off analytics
ThePostLiker et Random2152 a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 11
#64
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2020
Messages: 6,838
Mentions "j'aime": 5,304
Quoting: Bf3351
You're pretty dumb too, aren't ya?wink


Because?
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 12
#65
Bo Horvat enjoyer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2019
Messages: 10,711
Mentions "j'aime": 11,932
Was he fired?
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 12
#66
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: Jamiepo
8 more goals scored against the leafs than the predators ( quoting @palhal here) I mean really the leafs are middle of the pack on defense and have some young guys developing. Sure I would love an upgrade on D but what team wouldn’t?

I think team defence is going to be the focus. It’d funny whenever anyone on here talks about defence they centre 2 players on the ice at a time.


How you gonna fix defense?
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 13
#67
Démarrer sujet
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 1,743
Mentions "j'aime": 569
Quoting: AndrewLadd
Was he fired?


Yes
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 13
#68
Bo Horvat enjoyer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2019
Messages: 10,711
Mentions "j'aime": 11,932
Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Yes


I haven’t seen that anywhere, source?
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 14
#69
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I always see you bashing Marner & emphasizing what a trash player he is, yet you think he can fetch a high value return like Kaprizov & Dumba? Doesn’t make sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, it will be for much less than that cuz with a flat cap, there won’t be many teams interested in taking on his salary.

My ideal trade would be to send him to Pittsburgh for Patric Hornqvist, Sam Lafferty (two hard working gritty forwards with skill), Jack Johnson (top pairing RD, just a bit older) & Chad Ruhwedel (depth D). I suggest posting a thread of the trade I suggested.


I never said he was a bad player lol. He's obviously a great player, but he's overpaid and the Leafs can win without him.
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 14
#70
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
Quoting: AndrewLadd
I haven’t seen that anywhere, source?


He's breaking your lemons
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 14
#71
Démarrer sujet
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 1,743
Mentions "j'aime": 569
Quoting: AndrewLadd
I haven’t seen that anywhere, source?


Myself saying "Yes"
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 15
#72
Brace for the Storm
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 12,840
Mentions "j'aime": 6,647
Quoting: Jack_
Chayka doesnt really base anything off analytics


He was widely known when hired to be one of the only analytical driven GMS in the league...
ThePostLiker a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 17
#73
Brace for the Storm
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 12,840
Mentions "j'aime": 6,647
Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I always see you bashing Marner & emphasizing what a trash player he is, yet you think he can fetch a high value return like Kaprizov & Dumba? Doesn’t make sense to me.

If the Leafs trade Marner, it will be for much less than that cuz with a flat cap, there won’t be many teams interested in taking on his salary.

My ideal trade would be to send him to Pittsburgh for Patric Hornqvist, Sam Lafferty (two hard working gritty forwards with skill), Jack Johnson (top pairing RD, just a bit older) & Chad Ruhwedel (depth D). I suggest posting a thread of the trade I suggested.


That's awful value, also how if JJ a top pairing guy, he's a 6th d-man at best...
ThePostLiker et ZiggyPalffy a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 21
#74
Kings v5 GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 4,768
Mentions "j'aime": 1,626
Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
He was widely known when hired to be one of the only analytical driven GMS in the league...


Yeah absolutely, I think he was even the creator of some sort of stats company but most of his moves have been anti analytics. Trading away young guys who dont make much for guys who are declining and generally overpaid. Bad ufa signings and not targeting "analytics darling" of sorts. Most of his moves have been very risky with not a whole lot of upside
Random2152 et oneX a aimé ceci.
24 juill. 2020 à 21 h 25
#75
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
I like my posts liked @ThePostLiker
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage