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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs20 févr. 2023 à 19 h 31
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs16 juill. 2022 à 13 h 21
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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs29 janv. 2022 à 15 h 29
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LaffsFan</b></div><div>In 2021, all these players were the second, third, fourth, and fifth most traded players for Armchair-GMs. Every single person doing an armchair-gm for the leafs trade one of these players to clear cap space, so they can do a huge trade. Except, everytime you do so, someone in the comments either says, "we don't want this guy," or "no way we're paying X-round pick for this player." That being said, what is the actual value for these players? As for Ritchie, what do we have to give up to get rid of him?

IMO:
Kerfoot - late to mid second-round pick
Holl - early to mid third-round pick
Dermott - a fourth round pick
Engvall - a seventh round pick
Ritchie - a third plus Ritchie for future considerations</div></div>

I think people doing AGMs often get the value of players completely wrong, on either side. For instance, Kerfoot and Holl are valuable to the team and should be traded for roster players if anything, not treated as "cap dumps." Kerfoot is a speedy 0.50 PPG player who is very reliable on many aspects of the game. Many stats-oriented team would take him. AGMs that dump both these players for picks make no sense. We should try to keep both, or package them in a trade for roster players.

The value for Dermott and Engvall you mentioned is probably right. At this point, though, I'd keep Dermott as insurance for the playoffs.

Ritchie was a weird signing. But given the contract/age/career, there is no justification for giving a pick to trade him. If the Leafs wanted to let him go, Dubas can wait for a team who requests him and swap him for a prospect or future considerations. There will be some teams looking to add robustness, and his contract is not a burden at all. No need to throw a pick.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs12 janv. 2022 à 17 h 42
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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs13 sept. 2021 à 20 h 1
Good effort putting all this argument together.

I don't dispute that Marner is the highly talented winger you describe. Most people don't. But I still think it's a bad signing. And I'm not saying this with the benefit of hindsight: I was saying the exact same thing before the contract was signed and the pandemic started! Many reasons.

- If the AAV price was about 11M during negotiations, higher than any winger in the league, management had to bridge. That's what most Canadian GMs did, rightly so. The reasoning is that even after the bridge and without COVID, the AAV for wingers would have increased to the level his agent was asking for, at best. So, you gain cap space for 3-4 years.

- Psychologically, it's not desirable for a young player not named McDavid to become the highest paid player at his position (nobody is at McDavid's level). Too much pressure. I said that before: exceeding expectations always feels better, more motivating. Maybe the blame is other people's greed. But if Marner had a 9M AAV right now, nobody would have a negative thing to say about him. It would feel great for him.

The last playoffs are a good example. Keefe played him 25 minutes a game. It's like he was saying: you wanted that contract, now deliver. The reality is, however, this level of ice time is well beyond optimal.

In short: you can spoil the development of young players by raising the bar too high, too soon. Mitch throwing the puck in the stands is not him failing the fans. It's the people around him who failed him in his development, from his agent to the GM.

- You mentioned the PK several times. It's great. I like defensively reliable players, too. But to be frank, Marner should not play on the PK in the first place. Other players can do it, and fill that role with the same efficiency, if not more. Being a reliable defender at even strength is more than sufficient for Marner. Unless you change the entire system of the team, and become like Boston. But the Leafs aren't Boston. With regards to special teams, his focus should be the PP.

- Rantanen, Kucherov are comparables. Rantanen doesn't fill the same defensive role, but he has physicality and a better goal scoring touch. That's worth something. Kucherov is at another level entirely: his play under pressure and intense coverage is unparalleled. The way Tampa supported his development was exemplary. They went step by step, and of course, he was bridged. In fact, both players are better managed, because they have realistic expectations. And their cap hit is about just right.

With all that said, I like your attitude. I'm tired of cap discussions anyway, especially after the fact, since we can't change that anymore. So it may be better to see the glass half full.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs3 août 2021 à 3 h 34
Some thoughts.

My wishes for the next season were that:
1. the Leafs manage to design a good shutdown 3rd line, one that the coach will trust in the playoffs.
2. Bogosian be re-signed or someone found to replace him.
3. Keefe avoids playing Matthews/Marner 25 minutes a game, and maybe removes Marner from the PK altogether.

What I got so far:
1. My favourite acquisition is Kampf. I overlooked that player, and it seems like a legit Moneypuck move. Played tough minutes in Chicago, with DZ faceoffs, turning in excellent defensive stats on an average team. Him and Mikheyev (and maybe Kerfoot) could be the basis for an excellent 3rd line, like Tampa's Gourde line. So, I'm rather satisfied, though I wouldn't mind an additional PK specialist/defensive forward.

2. Bogosian leaving for a mega-contract in Tampa is a big issue, imo. I don't see the replacement for what he brought last season. Our top 4 is good, but needs to be used wisely. Then there are injuries. And who plays on the PK aside from Muzzin-Holl? I don't hear that a lot, but my move right now would be to trade a contract (e.g. Kerfoot) for a good defenseman. Defense wins championships.

3. Point 3 is entirely up to the coach. Hard match a checking line against opponents at home. Break up Matthews and Marner if they are cold. Play Nylander more if he's hot.

Unlike most people on social media, I'm not too worried about the top 6. Any player would score 40+ points with Matthews and Marner. I like Ritchie there, to protect the other two. Ritchie, Bunting, Kerfoot, Robertson, Simmonds... Kase. There's a lot of options.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs3 juin 2021 à 19 h 14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>I'll preface this by saying as an Oilers' fan, I'm all Dubas all the way. I want the Leafs to succeed because I think they're on the frontier of where this sport should be headed. Keeping the big four together and continuing to address depth is the only meaningful way forward.

I suspect Hallander starts at minimum with the Marlies, especially if Dubas wants to keep him as a pivot as opposed to a LW. His NHLe is only 82GP - 13.325G - 11.275 - 24.600P which misses the cutoff for third-line production (I use 0.33P/GP as a staunch cutoff, and even then I prefer the number being closer to 0.4). Dubas will like the strength that Hallander-Amirov bring to the Marlies. Robertson's NHLe is poised to get close to the half-point-per-game mark and no doubt I expect him to be on the roster as either the #2 or #3LW.

I suspect Liljegren is going to be traded, but I'm not sure what for. Bogosian played <em>really</em> well this year and I can't help but think he'll be one of those value contracts for the Leafs a la Spezza that continues to sign cheap until they've won a cup. I find it damning that he still hasn't been an NHL presence after his D+4 year and suspect the move will be to address the #3C.

Hyman's back without question and a hometown discount at around $4M with lots of term wouldn't surprise me.

I don't know if you bring Simmonds or Thornton back. They didn't accomplish much and weren't as effective as I imagine Dubas had hoped. There has to be better players out there to replace them with. I like Barclay Goodrow on a one-year deal and I think he'd like the fit too. A Goodrow - Brooks - Spezza 4th line is a very good 4th line. Freddie will probably be too cost-prohibitive for the Leafs. I suspect they're in the market for a $2M/2y goaltender to tandem with Campbell. I wonder if an Engvall-Khudobin swap with some retention makes sense for the Leafs. It very much works for the Stars, given their current three-headed goaltending monster.</div></div>

Thanks for saying this. The Oilers and the Leafs were the most exciting teams in Canada this year, and I think it's bad news for the league to see both of them out so early - not to mention a star player leaving on a stretcher on game 1. I'm not interested in that kind of butchery. No offense to Jets and Habs fans, but a series featuring McDavid vs Matthews would have been one of the best the sport has to offer.

I also think Dubas does a good job at evaluating talent and promoting good moral values within the organization. Signing contracts is the only weakness. I don't think 4M for Hyman is a discount - former teammate Connor Brown does a similarly important job at a 3.6M AAV, and there will be fantastic opportunities in this price range and below on the UFA market this summer. I think the field is wide open for Dubas to further improve the roster for next year.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs21 mai 2021 à 16 h 51
Sujet: Tavares
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Octopus_Guy</b></div><div>I have to start by saying I agree with Zach the person who posted this forum. At the end of the day hockey is a game and we all have to go home to our loved ones once the game is over.
This incident was scary enough to watch for fans it had to be even harder for JT's family, my thoughts are with them.
I hope he makes a full recovery as quick as possible and can get back to playing the game at his highest potential.



The injury happened so early in the game I would have understood if the NHL decided to postpone the rest of the game.
It was difficult to watch as a spectator but whether you are a player on the Habs or especially if you're on TML and that's your captain it had to be hard to play after.

That's why I think the fight was appropriate. To get the minds of the players off the injury and back to the game as much as possible.
Props to Perry for answering the bell for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and props to Foligno for standing up for his teammate.

That said, these players worked hard all year and sacrificed even more than usual with special covid protocols to get a shot at winning the Stanley Cup.
Perhaps you'd have more of an argument to cancel the series if Perry had malicious intent or if it was fatal but this was a pure accident.
Even logistically it wouldn't make sense. Who would the winner of EDM/WPG play?

You're right hockey is a risky sport. Sharp blades, big hits, fights, hard ice. There have been many nasty injuries. Some career ending unfortunately.
However I think it's worth it and I don't think one accident should determine how safe the sport is.

I hope you don't chalk up this year as an automatic loss of a year and maybe decide to watch some more games.
I know JT being out hurts the Leaf's chances at the cup significantly because he's such a great player but it's not over yet.

I really took my time to write this and re-read it because I hope none if it comes off as rude. I just have a difference in opinion on a few things.
At the end of the day we all wish this didn't happen but it did. So I'll say it again I hope he makes a full recovery as quick as possible and can get back to playing the game at his highest potential.

Take care</div></div>

Thanks for your thoughtful post. I certainly understand the points you are making.

Yes, I believe the Perry hit was an accident.

However, the decision from Dom Ducharme to tell his players to hit as much as they can was not an accident. As some point, those in power have to take responsibility for their actions. It's dumb hockey, if you want my opinion, especially if that's the whole foundation of your game strategy. (I think the Habs had decent chances in the series by just playing the game - they have skilled young players a well balanced team.)

And it's especially bad for the league. The reality is, you have kids watching hockey games. They see players like John Tavares and have them as role models, they want to be like them. It's a terrible outcome to have a player leave on a stretcher, any way you look at it.

I'm not a crazy fan. I would say the same thing if it happened to Crosby, Ovi or someone else. I wouldn't care more than 10 minutes after a loss if the Habs beat the Leafs in normal circumstances.

That said, I appreciate your response.
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