Justin Holl is 27 years old and has played 61 NHL games. Acting like a 23-year-old defenseman who should be getting better over the course of his contract is comparable in anyway is insane.
Perfect example of Leafs homerism and "but what does this mean for the Leafs?" that I have come to expect from this user.
Damn dude, comparing him to another player is Leafs homerism all of a sudden?!? Christ we just have the holy trinity of idiots here don't we. Pharrow, Hockeyfanatic, and yourself.
You call me a homer lol but talk so highly of Holl. Holl is in his first full year, no shot he was signing any other contract than what he signed for. Leafs weren't giving term to a 28 year old unproven player. Pettersson is playing his 2nd season in the top 4, and getting stronger every year. They gave him term to lock him up while still improving. If anyone is a homer, its you.... And 3 minutes less is a lot of time
You keep citing that he is in his second year as if that is that is a large sample size that proves him in anyway more than Holl. Toi means very little, role matters a ton. Holl is on our shut down pair playing top comp each night, Peterson is not. I will say it again, I like him as a defender, but he is a bottom 4 guy who can play on your second pair in a pinch and you paid him like a top 4 guy. That is an overpay.
And Holl IS on our shut down pair. That isn't an opinion, rather a fact. Citing that isn't being a homer lol.
He got more for a number of reasons. 1)Age is better, 2)skill is better, 3)plays a bigger roll, 4)has a higher ceiling, 5)took less on his last deal to help the team.
3)Justin Holl is our Shutdown Dman playing against McDavids. I very much doubt that Peterson has a bigger role.
4)Maybe, but I don't see it
5)No he didn't. He took his QA the same way Mango did last year to get a larger sample size and try for a bigger contract now. It was a calculated bet on himself, not a discount. It also has no relevance to this contract.
they are not comparable. When Holl was 23 he was getting set to develop in the AHL for another 3 years.
MP is an NHL caliber player already, and still has room to grow and develop. He's simply has much greater potential.
You pay for that.
This is the right way to do a contract. You pay for a player while they are going through their peek years and turning into the best they are ever going to be. Instead of paying for players who are aging out which is what usually happens in FA as people pick up guys who are 27 and 28 and on the decline having peeked.
When you look at Holl, he's peeked. Period. What you see is what you get.
MP has not peeked as a player yet. They will get more out of him as he continues to grow as a player. It's a good deal.
I actually agree with this. My contention is that they paid too much, even for a bet. Should have been 3-4@3 ish.