Is Holl really your top 4 shut down guy?
all play 3+ more mins a night than him..
also play more PK time than him..?
toi is not a good indicator, usage is. Also our injuries have been messing with the toi's this year
"You keep citing that he is in his second year as if that is that is a large sample size that proves him in anyway more than Holl. Toi means very little, role matters a ton. Holl is on our shut down pair playing top comp each night, Peterson is not. I will say it again, I like him as a defender, but he is a bottom 4 guy who can play on your second pair in a pinch and you paid him like a top 4 guy. That is an overpay.
And Holl IS on our shut down pair. That isn't an opinion, rather a fact. Citing that isn't being a homer lol."
I keep citing it because Holl hasn't even played a single season, while Pettersson is 5 years younger and is having his 2nd straight solid season. Compare him to Rasmus Andersson. Thats a 1000000% way better comparison
You are really making a big deal out of a small number of games man. Congrats, your guy has played 1.5 solid seasons. That isn't exactly enough to make definitive claims any more than Holl's record is.
He's currently a solid number 4 at age-23. That's what he is right now. Really showing that you have no clue what you are talking about.
That is exactly what my comment said he is. A 4-5. We just agreed yet you think that makes me an idiot?
It doesn't matter how you want to spin it. He paid a huge amount to get rid of a $6,250,000 cap hit. And he's paying $4.5 million to his worst D man, which is actually a higher number than what his qualifying offer with Ottawa was. Could have taken the guy to arbitration and turned down the award, or flipped him to another team. Ceci is very bad.
Then you say **** like this.... good god man. You spin **** and accuse others explaining reality of spinning. Take you head out of your ass, you seem to be enjoying the smell.
1)Comparing him to a player in a not-at-all comparable situation just to bring your team into it certain is. And it shows your ignorance.
2)A valid comparison? A similar-aged defensemen. Rasmus Andersson for example, who got more money and has worse underlying numbers.
3)If you want to do "but what about the Leafs," Travis Dermott is a guy who is the same age and will probably be getting more than Holl based on age and potential (if signed long-term). If he signs short term, then that won't be the case. This is how contracts work for young players on an upward trajectory.
4)Take your L, man. You said something stupid.
1) situations are different, but they are comparable players
2)Andersson is massively overrated on this site. Look at his contract thread I said he hadn't earned what he got either.
3) Dermott hasn't been extended so we don't have a comparable for him yet, but I see far more upside in Dermott than in Peterson and to even compare them really shows that you have no clue what you are talking about.
4)Nothing you have said here comes remotely close to an actual, logical argument. Not once in your entire rant have you once even flirted with a rational thought, but you still say others are stupid.
Something-something Dunning Kruger.