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KentMcNally

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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals6 févr. à 10 h 7
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Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. à 10 h 34
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 13 h 47
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>I don't really like these kinds of threads so don't post on them often, I know why you posted it but asking for other teams fans to apologize is as arrogant as some of those fans comments. I could show threads showing every ACGM or comment I have made over the last few weeks where I said a 1st + 3rd ish is the value but lets not forget that we can be wrong as well and when we are we don't always readily admit it either. I thought when we traded Petry to Detroit that we were going to get more, we didn't and we weren't called out too often on that one so why should we call out someone else? Just my opinion though, I just like the debating and sometimes even heated debates with others (you know who you are lol) as long as they don't get too out of hand.

On a lighter note, congrats to the Jets on acquiring Monahan, hope you guys don't go too deep lol (just want that 3rd round pick and a higher 1st than 32nd lol) but in all seriousness good luck hopefully either you or the Canucks can bring the cup home!</div></div>

I am not asking for an apology from anyone really. My biggest point is that some people could be more respectful of other people's opinions before they start typing . There are not a lot of those people out there, but those people who just want to tear down other people/fanbases make it disappointing (of course I am not being forced to read those comments, so I can just choose to ignore it too). Just hoping that some individuals are more courteous and do not act as though they are sitting in the GM office of their own team and know exactly what their team will or will not do (within reason).

Yes, as you said, good luck to Monahan and to the Jets in 2024/2025 (we need the pick from Winnipeg to have as much value as possible).
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 13 h 17
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>I think mtl fans are so animated on Monahan because it's been a year in the making to trade him starting last year but getting injured. I was wrong that he'd get a first but deadline overpays vs Value is completely different. Monahan can not be worth a first but it costs a 1st</div></div>

I like that you are one of those that people that can acknowledge that you thought Monahan would go for less.

On the "value" and "overpays" definition, I somewhat disagree (although I think we both are kind of saying the same thing, just in different ways). As you might say yourself, "Value" of trades is fluid and it changes depending on the time of year (i.e. close to the deadline vs the off season). I think that Monahan's "value" at the trade deadline is exactly what they got (a first round pick) because we have seen these types of trades for players of Monahan's abilities repeatedly happen around the deadline. At some point, when the market continuously demands such payment, it is not an "overpay", it is the real "value" at that time of year. So perhaps using the word "overpay" is a misnomer. Now if you were to say to me that it is much less likely that Montreal would get a 1st round pick for Monahan in July (i.e. if he finished the year in Montreal, had one more year on his contract and scored 55 points for Montreal this season but Hughes wanted to trade him) I would probably agree that he might not get the first round pick, because of the fluidity/changing of the market. Of course I am not saying anything new here, as I have seen quite a few other people make similar comments.

As I said, I think you are generally saying the same thing, I think we might just disagree on whether it is an "overpay" at this point.