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Créé par: Fail4Nail

Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2024

Publié: 5 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated

LTIR activée: Oui

Journées à la saison: 192

Journées restantes: 73

Saison restante: 38%

Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants

: 83 187 158 $

Description

If the Oilers want to be true contenders, they need to replace Cody Ceci. Ceci has been a serviceable defenseman since signing with the Oilers (+29 in 203 games played) and is a great locker room guy. Issue with him is that he's not good enough to play in the top pairing with Nurse, which isn't his fault, as he is essentially forced into this position.
Oilers have been playing great, but if they want to be true contenders, they need to replace Ceci with a RH dman that is more capable of playing against other team's top lines.

What would be the asking price for these 3 RH dman options? Please keep in mind that any trade would need to involve Ceci going the other way.

Transactions

EDM

Zub, Artem

OTT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Draft pick is just a place holder. What would it realistically take to trade Zub to the Oilers? Or is this just unrealistic?

EDM

Pelech, Adam

NYI

Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Draft pick is just a place holder. What would it realistically take to trade Pelech to the Oilers? Or is this just unrealistic?

EDM

Tanev, Christopher

CGY

Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Draft pick is just a place holder. What would it realistically take to trade Tanev to the Oilers? Or is this just unrealistic?

EDM

Pulock, Ryan

Détails additionnels:

What would it realistically take to trade Pulock to the Oilers? Or is this just unrealistic?

NYI

Pelech, Adam

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $

Enfoui

Jack Campbell: 3 850 000 $ (5 000 000 $)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	83 500 000 $	82 641 667 $	850 000 $	4 200 000 $	858 333 $

Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $1 948 568 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $4 752 604 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $2 091 146 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
Kane, Evander 5 125 000 $1 948 568 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $3 231 771 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $1 045 573 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Holloway, Dylan 925 000 $351 693 $ (650 000 $$650K) AG, C RFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan 2 100 000 $798 438 $ C RFA - 2	Perry, Corey 775 000 $294 661 $ (325 000 $$325K) AD UFA - 1
Janmark, Mattias 1 000 000 $380 208 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek 900 000 $342 188 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Brown, Connor 775 000 $294 661 $ (3 225 000 $$3M) AD, AG UFA - 1
		Gagner, Sam 775 000 $294 661 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $3 516 927 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $1 235 677 $ DD UFA - 2	Skinner, Stuart 2 600 000 $988 542 $ G UFA - 3
Ekholm, Mattias 6 000 000 $2 281 250 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Bouchard, Evan 3 900 000 $1 482 813 $ DD RFA - 2	Pickard, Calvin 762 500 $289 909 $ G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett 2 750 000 $1 045 573 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Desharnais, Vincent 762 500 $289 909 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Tanev, Christopher 1 125 000 $427 734 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Zub, Artem 4 600 000 $1 748 958 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4
		Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $2 338 281 $ DD NTC UFA - 7

5 févr. à 11 h 16

csick

KFTW

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Zub is definitely not available no matter what you offer

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

5 févr. à 11 h 19

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: csick

Zub is definitely not available no matter what you offer

Gotcha, thanks for the feedback.

5 févr. à 11 h 19

Howie

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Pelech is lhd I think you mean pulock?

5 févr. à 11 h 20

KentMcNally

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If you wanted to aim slightly lower Edmonton could call Montreal and ask about David Savard (I am aware that Kent Hughes said they are not actively shopping Savard, but for the right price I am sure he could be acquired).

5 févr. à 11 h 20

Canuckfan98

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Tanev is the most likely and the cheapest out of the three but he's most likely either going to Toronto or Dallas IMO, since idk how much Calgary wants to help out Edmonton on their potential cup run.

If they were to trade with you guys it would probably be Ceci,1st, and a lil sweetener cause it's Edmonton for Tanev 50% retained.

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

5 févr. à 11 h 22

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: Howie

Pelech is lhd I think you mean pulock?

Yes, mb.

5 févr. à 11 h 23

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: KentMcNally

If Ceci can't play in the top pair, Savard most defiantly cannot either.

Ausbear17 et Oilers_29 a aimé ceci.

5 févr. à 11 h 27

Burnout

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Tanev is the only one of those guys that's realistically available. Edmonton likely doesn't have the peices available to get any of the others.

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

5 févr. à 11 h 27

KentMcNally

Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Fail4Nail

If Ceci can't play in the top pair, Savard most defiantly cannot either.

I misread. I thought it was top 4 RHD (I think he would be good on a 2nd pair for the playoffs, because his game is better suited for a playoff run than it is for the full 82 game schedule).

I agree that he is not a top pair defender on a Cup contending team

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

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Fail4Nail

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Quoting: KentMcNally

Savard would be great on our third pair, but Desharnais has been excelling in that role, at a fraction of the price.

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#11

ConnorG

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IMO, none of the defencemen you listed are significant upgrades on Ceci. If Oilers are to investing assets, I would want a bonafide 1st pairing defenceman.

Oilers_29 a aimé ceci.

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#12

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: ConnorG

IMO, none of the defencemen you listed are significant upgrades on Ceci. If Oilers are to investing assets, I would want a bonafide 1st pairing defenceman.

Huuuuh?!?! Are you fr?? I like Ceci, but the dman I listed are milllleeeeessss above and beyond him.

chealy2 a aimé ceci.

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#13

ConnorG

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Quoting: Fail4Nail

Huuuuh?!?! Are you fr?? I like Ceci, but the dman I listed are milllleeeeessss above and beyond him.

The Oilers defence group and as a team are playing great at the moment. If any of the players listed are marginally better, it still risks upsetting the chemistry.

I also don't think any of the defencemen listed are 1st pairing guys on a good team. Do you?

Oilers_29 a aimé ceci.

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#14

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: ConnorG

Agreed, but Ceci has been our worst defenseman. I'm not taking anything away from the group as a whole, but if we actually want to contend, we need a Ceci upgrade. All of these guys are Ceci upgrades, that's all that matters. We're not going to get a true #1 in season.

5 févr. à 12 h 15

#15

Harford

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Zub would be a tough grab from the Sens. Don't really have much on the right side with Hamonick/Bernard-Docker and Chycrun playing on his off-side.
I don't see the interest on the Sens side, but it'd likely have to be a Ceci re-unite, a first, and another pick/mid-tier prospect.
Others would probably just flat out reject though.

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

5 févr. à 12 h 19

#16

ConnorG

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Quoting: Fail4Nail

I feel like if the Oilers use whatever assets to perform a maybe marginal upgrade on Ceci and instead use it to add to the forward group, the Oilers would be a better team as a whole as compared with upgrading Ceci.

5 févr. à 12 h 30

#17

MisstheWhalers

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Tanev is the only one available and he plays for the enemy so should probably look elsewhere.

Edmonton is not gonna find much of an upgrade on Ceci so grab a depth piece for injury insurance cause that's all you can do, maybe a guy like Stecher.

Maata would be a good add for the Oilers but he's a lefty and has a $3M cap hit which might be difficult for the Oilers to fit.

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#18

Green4D4

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I echo @csick's post above. Zub is unavailable simply because he is our best RHD at the moment and has the best chemistry with all of our current LHD... You'd really need to make it worth while for Ottawa to consider moving him.

He's the Senators version of Cernak in TBL.

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

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csick

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Quoting: Green4D4

I echo csick's post above. Zub is unavailable simply because he is our best RHD at the moment and has the best chemistry with all of our current LHD... You'd really need to make it worth while for Ottawa to consider moving him.

He's the Senators version of Cernak in TBL.

Except better than Cernak

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#20

Fail4Nail

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Quoting: csick

Except better than Cernak

Makes sense why he's unavailable lol.

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#21

emoprettyboy

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yeah I mean others have said the same, but the Sens simply can't afford to lose Zub. only way to make it work would be to overpay so massively for him that the Sens are able to go off and flip the assets for at least a comparable dman and then have some left over, at which point the Oilers might as well just go and get whoever else would be available

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

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#22

Nightowl26

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Isles and Edmonton are not a match.

Fail4Nail a aimé ceci.

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