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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 17 h 35
Sujet:
Does Ottawa want to get their draft pick guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>westcoasthabslifer</b></div><div>They’d obviously have to weigh the risk especially if Demidov or Lindstrom are there….but we’d finally be in a good position to pull this off. The only reason we couldn’t trade down last year was because Arizona would’ve taken Reinbacher. But this might actually work. Still though probably only worth it if we have a plan to use the extra pick to trade up. Or they are absolutely sure we can still get our guy. But I wouldn’t really want to risk trading down just to draft 25ish when we already have a pick around that spot.</div></div>
I would definitely like the idea of then packaging the Winnipeg and Ottawa pick for a pick in the teens
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 15 h 32
Sujet:
Does Ottawa want to get their draft pick guy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>That would be a steep price to pay to move up two spots. The Habs dont want to spend another 1st on D after Guhle, Mailloux and Reinbacher the last 4 drafts.
I dont think the difference between Parekh and Yakemchuk would be big enough to spend another 1st to take the one you want. Buium, Silayev and Dickinson all there as well for Cbj if they want.</div></div>
After I posted I also considered editing the trade and having Montreal add their 2nd round pick from Colorado (which would be a late second) to offset some of what Ottawa is getting. Not sure if that would be enough or not.
As one person said above, sometimes teams get really focused on getting "their guy", so maybe Ottawa would do such a trade. The late first round pick that Ottawa has from Boston is nice to have (for Montreal or Ottawa), but given the draft is not tremendously deep, maybe Ottawa would do it to get who they want and not lose that player to Arizona/Utah.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 13 h 49
Sujet:
Canes
Carolina is stuck with Kotkaniemi. I cannot see any good reason why Montreal would trade back for him. People complain (rightfully so) about how Anderson and Gallagher are overpaid for their production. Kotkaniemi would only add to Montreal's collection of overpaid players.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 19 h 25
Sujet:
getting pick 14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazorSeider53</b></div><div>Not sure this is a draft worth moving up in.
Guessing he either stays or moves it for RHD help. If he trades down I seriously doubt it's ~10 spots down.</div></div>
I originally thought about including Barron or Savard (both RHD). Would Detroit consider them in a package for #14?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 15 h 31
Sujet:
getting pick 14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>As a Habs fan, I don't really see Yzeman doing that.</div></div>
Maybe not, but this would be #26 + #60 (Colorado- approximately) + #45 (Pittsburgh in 2025- approximately) for #14 plus 2 serviceable NHL players that could help Detroit keep the puck out of the next for a low cost. It is not horrible.
What do you think Montreal would have to add? A bad contract coming back? Another young player like Harris or Barron?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 avr. à 8 h 4
Sujet:
A george divided against himself cannot stand
The jerk store called, they're running out of you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 avr. à 9 h 20
Sujet:
He was scratched again
Some Carolina fans on here have argued that he has great underlying numbers, drives the play for his line and has a lot of "tertiary assists" (those assists where two other people touch the puck before the actual goal scorer puts the puck in the net are crucial)...........
The healthy scratches are probably to make sure that he is well rested for the playoffs where he will be excellent........
Forum:
Mock-Draft
7 avr. à 8 h 40
Sujet:
2024
I would be very surprised if Montreal takes Connelly at #7. Even aside from the "character issues" (which can be overcome if they are there, since the kids is still a teenager) it is questionable if he would go that high in the draft.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 avr. à 8 h 33
Sujet:
Lundell plus
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>He's a point behind last year and there's still games left.</div></div>
He has already played one more game than last year and has 1 less point, so his points per game is still down a bit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 avr. à 7 h 41
Sujet:
Lundell plus
That’s fair value for Lundell. He had a strong rookie season but his point production has gone down in each subsequent year, despite being on a very good team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. à 13 h 18
Sujet:
Next Year
If Montreal is going to trade the Winnipeg first round pick, Jordan Harris (in the separate trade) and a 2nd round pick then I would rather that they use all 3 of those assets in just 1 trade to try to move up from the position in the draft that the Winnipeg pick ultimately lands at.
As the others above have said, Kakko is not a big addition to the long term plans for Montreal. He has been in the league for 5 years now and has proven to be a 30 to 40 point player. That is not a key piece to the rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. à 12 h 55
Sujet:
24-25 Habs Playoff Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Honestly don't know why Habs fans want to rush this. Be bad again next year, have a ridiculous amount of cap space to throw around in one of the best FA classes of recent memory and then see where you land</div></div>
I agree with you completely. If Calgary does Montreal a favour and finishes out of the top 10 (for a draft spot) next year (perhaps unlikely) but does not make the playoffs (very likely) then Montreal may have 2 picks next year in the 5 to 16 range in a deep draft. This could really help with organizational needs (along with 2 picks in the first round this year). And, as you said, they could have $11,3M in additional cap space with Dvorak, Armia and Savard contracts being up. One more year of true rebuilding (playing poorly) and then start making the bigger changes in the 2024-2025 off season and beyond.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
3 avr. à 9 h 8
Sujet:
2024 w/ explanations and current standings
Cole Eiserman not even in the top 16?? If that happens I hope that the Canadiens trade up to #17. He may have some flaws, but his ability to score is rare. The other things (improving defensive play and skating) usually can be more easily improved upon by having the team getting the player to work on those things. A second line of Eiserman, Lindstrom and Dach would be really exciting to watch in a few years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 avr. à 10 h 29
Sujet:
Moving up at the draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>Devils will likely gonna trade their 1st round pick for a top goalie like Markstrom.</div></div>
I could see that happening. Although, it is rare for such a high pick to be traded for a goalie, but maybe Calgary and New Jersey work out some other details in a larger trade scenario.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 mars à 10 h 40
Sujet:
6 Newhooks is better than 3 Laines
I am not one of those people that see Lundell as a big upgrade to Montreal's roster. I think if Dach can come back and put his health issues behind him then he could be a good 2nd line center. This year they will probably draft a talented forward (Eiserman, Catton, Lindstrom) to eventually be that 2nd line player with Dach. Hopefully one of Newhook, Roy or even Mesar could fill out the 2nd line. I could see Owen Beck being a very good 3rd line center for the Habs.
With Lundell his offensive numbers have decreased each year in the league (0.67 points per game in his rookie year to 0.45 points per game last year to 0.43 points per game this year). To me that does not indicate a 2nd line center on a contending team. He is not a 2nd line center in Florida and they are a contending team.
So if Lundell is a 3rd line center, how does that impact Owen Beck's placement in the lineup moving forward?
I believe that Montreal has a top 9 forward group that could look like the following in the future:
Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Newhook/Roy Dach 2024 First Round PIck
Newhook/Roy Beck Mesar/Free Agent/ 2025 draft pick
I am not saying that Lundell is bad, I just do not see a pressing need to give up assets to acquire a guy who looks like he has a ceiling of a 2nd line winger (if things turn around for him in a significant way) or a 3rd line center who would displace one of our other good prospects.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
27 mars à 8 h 47
Sujet:
2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Big_Papa20</b></div><div>I don’t see Montreal passing on Lindstrom if he’s on the table there</div></div>
I also think that Montreal takes Catton before Helenius.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
25 mars à 8 h 35
Sujet:
MTL gets cap dump CHI gets protection for Bedard
I do not think that is very close to enough in order to dump Gallagher. What is the "protection for Bedard" part of the trade?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 13 h 5
Sujet:
If Montreal is still at pick number 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>westcoasthabslifer</b></div><div>Moving up doesn’t really make any sense since there’s really not a consensus after 1. You could still get your #2 at 5 without doing anything. So unless it’s for #1 I don’t waste assets moving up.</div></div>
I just wonder whether there is enough of a difference between Demidov (likely #2 or #3) to Lindstrom and then from Lindstrom (somewhere between #2 and #5) to Catton to warrant looking into a possible move up in order to guarantee getting the player that Montreal wants. You may be right and it may not be worth it, but I thought it would be an interesting conversation to have.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 12 h 53
Sujet:
If Montreal is still at pick number 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Who amongst Anaheim fans are saying that? I think we're all pretty aligned we need to go Levshunov.
Hopefully the top 3 order stays as is, San Jose will take Celebrini, Chicago will pass on Leshunov for a forward to play with Bedard as they've got Jones still around for quite a while, and then Anaheim can grab Leshunov.</div></div>
Back in January both Genral Lando and OLD NYI fan said in a response to a post that I put up that Anaheim would take a forward. Lando said Esierman and Old NYI just said "a forward" would go to the Ducks (you and OLF NYI actually had a back and forth about it at the time of the post). Obviously opinions can change over time (and it likely has on the Eiserman) option), but that is what i based my comment on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 12 h 18
Sujet:
If Montreal is still at pick number 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I think that it's pointless to speculate on draft order until after the lotteries and we know for a fact where each team will select. Right now, I can't see Anaheim trading back from #1 (obviously) or #2, and I think that it's unlikely that the Ducks trade back from #3 unless the kid they REALLY liked at #2 is gone. I can see Anaheim moving back from #4 to #6 or #7 in return for a 2025 first, though -- again, only on draft day when the Ducks see who's left on the board. The only way that I see Anaheim making a deal BEFORE the draft is if two teams behind them win the lotteries and the Ducks drop to #5 -- but then, the teams moving up would probably like to know who they're getting, so again that suggests only a draft day trade.</div></div>
That is why I said if Montreal is at 5. I am basing the trade on the order of picks staying the same after the lottery. My trade proposals might have to happen on the draft floor after the first 2 picks are already made.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 12 h 14
Sujet:
If Montreal is still at pick number 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>How has nobody commented on what a huge overpayment that’d be to move up a few spots? And I’m an ANA fan.
I imagine it’d be tough to say no to that value even though ANA very likely misses out on who we all seem to think is ‘their guy’ in Levshunov at 5OA</div></div>
I definitely did try to make sure ithe trade proposal would be enough for Montreal to move up.
It is interesting to me that some Ducks fans seemed to be focused on getting a forward (Demidov or Libdstrom) while you think they should go after Levshunov at #3.
Personalty I think that either way Anaheim could get very close to what it wants, as I think Anaheim could get Parekh or Yakemchuk at 5 if (when) Levshunov is gone or they could get Catton at 5 If Lindstrom or Demidov are gone.
Obviously if that line of thinking applies to Anaheim at #5 one might think it should generally apply to Montreal at number 5 too, but I just think that Anaheim ihas slightly more leeway to go for a forward or a defenceman with their early pick, while I think Montreal clearly needs the best forward they can get.
We will see what happens.
Thanks for your input.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mars à 10 h 41
Sujet:
If Montreal is still at pick number 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Hughes would take Lindstrom, but I think the pick should be Catton</div></div>
I think Catton would be a very good pick.
I am curious why Lindstrom did not return to playing in the WHL when he was expected to following his injury and surgery. Seems like he has been out quite a bit longer than expected.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 mars à 14 h 11
Sujet:
Fresh
$8.7M is a lot for a guy who has averaged 0.80 points per game and has often been out due to injuries and other health reasons. I understand that Montreal gets to dump ARMIA, but even then I would not want Laine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 mars à 11 h 30
Sujet:
Which is a bigger risk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bobrick</b></div><div>It's a Dach and Norris swap. That said, the bigger risk is for the Habs to take on Norris. His multiple injuries, longer contract and higher cap hit make it that way.</div></div>
I tend to agree. However, Norris does have a 35 goal season already under his belt, which is something exciting for a center as young as he is. If he could get healthy and produce near that rate I don't know whether Dach replicates that production. Plus, the Norris salary for a 35 goal scorer in the future is not bad.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 mars à 9 h 46
Sujet:
Trade down from 3 OA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs_22_14_20</b></div><div>MTL would definitely select Cayden Lindstrom and yes, I would trade 6th + WPG Jets 1st to move up to 3rd OA
OTT 3rd round pick should be going to MTL tho</div></div>
The trade that was originally proposed, though, is not the Winnipeg pick, it is the Calgary pick in 2025 or 2026 (possibly from Florida's draft position too). There are numerous conditions on that Calgary pick, but there is a chance it will be better than the Winnipeg pick this year.
It is not a bad proposal, but it is a tough call in my opinion. If Silayev, Levshunov and Dickinson or Parekh happened to go in the top 5 for some reason then that #6 pick that Montreal gives up could be Lindstrom or Demidov anyway and then Montreal is giving up the Calgary pick without much added value to them.
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