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Créé par: Pens3lieve

Équipe: 2025-26 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 21 mars 2024

Publié: 23 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

playing off my last ACGM... pens move any and all expiring deals they can for mainly prospects, change of scenery trades and moving bigger deals out...

don't take most of this too seriously, i'm not a prospect expert, and everyone and their mother including overvalues prospects at times (see Sprong, Daniel) but most of these moves are more theories about the general direction of PIT

NOTE-some of these trades happen this upcoming offseason and next years TDL in advance of the SID extention, another FA, etc...

stick tap to @F50Marco for the MTL trade idea

@mokumboi your thoughts on the STL idea for Pettersson at 50% retained?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Barron, Justin	2	1 150 000 $
Bemström, Emil	1	900 000 $
Cajkovic, Maxim	1	775 000 $
Gauthier, Taylor	2	775 000 $
Hamaliuk, Dillon	2	775 000 $
Ponomarev, Vasili	2	775 000 $
Rathbone, Jack	2	775 000 $
St. Ivany, Jack	2	775 000 $
Svejkovsky, Lukas	2	775 000 $
Puustinen, Valtteri	2	1 100 000 $
Poulin, Samuel	2	950 000 $
Ludvig, John	2	850 000 $
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	2	900 000 $
Holmberg, Pontus	2	850 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Crosby, Sidney	3	8 700 000 $
O'Connor, Drew	2	1 700 000 $
Puljujärvi, Jesse	1	800 000 $
Stalock, Alex	1	775 000 $
Nedeljkovic, Alex	2	2 500 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Holmberg, Pontus [Droits de RFA]

TOR

Acciari, Noel

PIT

Anderson, Josh
Barron, Justin [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

Détails additionnels:

Reilly Smith, 1x$5M
Note: the 2024 2nd is conditional and can be upgraded to a 1st if CAR makes the SC Final, this post assumes they don't

PIT

NJD

Graves, Ryan

Détails additionnels:

Matt Nieto 1x900K

PIT

Edwards, Ethan [Liste de réserve]
Málek, Jakub [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

2026 2nd condition-upgrades to a 1st if NJD makes the EC final
2026 4th condition-the best of the 3 4rd round picks

NJD

Jarry, Tristan

PIT

Kaskimäki, Aleksanteri [Liste de réserve]
Lindstein, Theo
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (STL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (STL)

Détails additionnels:

STL #5/#14 prospects per the Athletic
2nd upgrades to a 1st in either 2025 or 2026 (STL choice) if STL makes it to the 2nd round of playoffs

STL

Gruden, Jonathan [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

LHD Marcus Pettersson 50% retained, 1x~2M

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (COL)
Choix de 6e ronde en 2026 (MIN)

MIN

C Lars Eller, 50% retained, 1x1.225M

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)

BOS

Haula, Erik (1 575 000 $ retained)

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Erik Haula: 1 575 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	91 500 000 $	74 577 500 $	0 $	557 500 $	16 922 500 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C UFA	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Bunting, Michael 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
Puustinen, Valtteri 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA	O'Connor, Drew 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ AG UFA	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Holmberg, Pontus 850 000 $850 000 $ C, AG RFA	Poulin, Samuel 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Bemström, Emil 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 900 000 $900 000 $ DG RFA	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 3	Nedeljkovic, Alex 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA
Ludvig, John 850 000 $850 000 $ DG RFA	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 2	Blomqvist, Joel 886 667 $886 667 $ G RFA - 1
Pickering, Owen 918 333 $918 333 $ (500 000 $$500K) DG RFA - 1	Barron, Justin 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ DD RFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Koivunen, Ville 805 833 $805 833 $ (57 500 $$58K) AD RFA - 1
Ponomarev, Vasili 775 000 $775 000 $ C RFA
St. Ivany, Jack 775 000 $775 000 $ DD RFA

Équipe de réserve
Stalock, Alex 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA
Puljujärvi, Jesse 800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD UFA

23 mars à 13 h 59

Pens3lieve

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stick tap to @F50Marco for the MTL trade idea

@mokumboi your thoughts on the STL idea for Pettersson at 50% retained?

F50marco a aimé ceci.

23 mars à 14 h 3

GuyGuyGuy

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We have near 20m in cap space for next season. Why exactly should we pay a first and a very good RD prospect to dump Anderson?

NorthernLeafsFan05, Campabee, Just_A_Guess and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

23 mars à 14 h 4

NorthernLeafsFan05

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Not only is Holmberg better than Acciari, but he is also cheaper and younger. Literally zero reason for Toronto to do that

23 mars à 14 h 4

mokumboi

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

stick tap to F50Marco for the MTL trade idea

mokumboi your thoughts on the STL idea for Pettersson at 50% retained?

Pettersson retained for one year doesn't even get you Lindstein, sir. If Krug goes they might do the conditional 2nd and a different LD prospect like Buchinger or Gaudet or Loof. Maybe even Perunovich. Lindstein isn't available.

23 mars à 14 h 11

Pens3lieve

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

We have near 20m in cap space for next season. Why exactly should we pay a first and a very good RD prospect to dump Anderson?

did you miss the 2nd and Reilly Smith going the other way lol?

23 mars à 14 h 13

Pens3lieve

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Quoting: mokumboi

like i said i'm not a prospect expert, i was not aware Lindstein was the reincarnated Al McInnis/Chris Pronger mutant beast defenseman lol excuse my hyperbole

if PIT was taking Krug's contract then we'd want to be sending a longer deal the other way, like rakell, rust type stuff

lol

all good... just getting your take

23 mars à 14 h 14

Pens3lieve

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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05

Not only is Holmberg better than Acciari, but he is also cheaper and younger. Literally zero reason for Toronto to do that

except that Treliving like players with snot or something lol

fair enough, just trying to find a taker

23 mars à 14 h 16

Campabee

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Habs pass, remove Anderson, Barron, Smith and the 1st and it's a deal. We don't need to dump Anderson (who I still believe GM's value) and Smith holds no value to us with Armia already here on a cheaper contract

Just_A_Guess a aimé ceci.

23 mars à 14 h 18

NorthernLeafsFan05

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

except that Treliving like players with snot or something lol

fair enough, just trying to find a taker

Treliving chose Holmberg over Acciari last summer 🤷‍♂️

23 mars à 14 h 23

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my_name_is_Fil

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i dont see montreal doing antyhign like that for the next ...many years if at all.
kent hughes is the iceman

23 mars à 14 h 35

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Just_A_Guess

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That is not a good trade for MTL, heavy duty pass.

23 mars à 14 h 36

#12

BorisBagel

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Habs definitely decline

23 mars à 14 h 45

#13

GuyGuyGuy

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

did you miss the 2nd and Reilly Smith going the other way lol?

I did miss Reilly Smith. The second is pretty much whatever. Smith could bring up a first maybe at the deadline. So we are still paying Barron to unnecessarily get out of Anderson’s contract

23 mars à 14 h 55

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NJDevils1317

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Palat isn't waiving a NMC for PIT

23 mars à 15 h 25

#15

Haymaker26

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

did you miss the 2nd and Reilly Smith going the other way lol?

Even with Smith and the 2nd going the other way, I dislike Anderson's contract so much that I'm not considering it from the Pens' perspective.
We could probably move Smith's 1 year for some low picks/prospects and use that cap space on someone like Teravainen or Mantha.

23 mars à 16 h 53

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

did you miss the 2nd and Reilly Smith going the other way lol?

He asking you why would MTL give the Pens 2x1st and that's your answer? Keep your scraps.

23 mars à 17 h 10

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mokumboi

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

like i said i'm not a prospect expert, i was not aware Lindstein was the reincarnated Al McInnis/Chris Pronger mutant beast defenseman lol excuse my hyperbole

if PIT was taking Krug's contract then we'd want to be sending a longer deal the other way, like rakell, rust type stuff

lol

all good... just getting your take

Nobody ever said Lindstein was any of that stuff, but he definitely is currently the only legit top 4 D prospect in the organization. So yeah, he's a protected species. And yes, he's worth more than one season of Pettersson.

And I did not mean to move Krug to Pittsburgh, just in general.

23 mars à 18 h 47

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AC14

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That’s a stinker of a deal for the Blues.

23 mars à 23 h 24

#19

Tennisman142

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Honestly the blues trade makes little sense for us. Petterson only has 1 more year before he needs a new contract. We are retooling/rebuilding around younger players and giving out another big extension to a LHD heading into his age 30 season is a bad move for us. We already have Krug eating up a lot of cap so adding more is just a misuse of cap space.

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