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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 4 heures
Sujet:
Chych for buch lets do it
Chychrun would probably be our best left handed defenseman. But half of the fanbase also wants to trade Justin Faulk. You're essentially trading for a younger Justin Faulk. Pretty offensive minded, with some defensive capabilities but is very mistake prone.
I'm assuming you're thinking along the lines of it being if Buchnevich doesn't want to re-sign. If he doesn't due to team performance/outlook while he's in his prime, I can't imagine he would waive to go to Ottawa.
Lets also factor in that our secondary scoring in a situation like this would have to come from the backend. There are 2 players on that roster above that can consistently score at a top 6 pace 6 v 6. Kyrou and Thomas. Neighbors for as great of a season hasn't indicated that he is capable of driving a line. Schenn went on multiple stretches this year in which he did not score a goal in 10+ games. Saad is the definition of a streaky player, although he did finish down the stretch very strong which was great to see. Bolduc could conceivably take another step, but I'm not sure I would count on it just yet, even if he did look like a capable responsible scorer. Hayes is Hayes, not a top 6 guy and shouldn't be expected to be. I can't see Toropchenko having enough offense in there to be able to be counted on like that.
We direly lacked a 2nd wave of consistent scoring, while an addition of Chycrun in that fashion should help boost some of the forwards production a bit, I still don't see moving Buchnevich for Chychrun not completely obliterating any form of secondary scoring we did have.
I will say this could have legs and make sense for a couple of reasons if the Blues were able to lure a guy like Duchene or Stephenson to play 2C. But given the presser and the direction this team is pretty clearly going now I'm not sure that's an option.
I could still see a reason if the objective is to not be great next year, but there is still a belief Chychrun in our system could become more of a two-way top end guy than he has shown in the past. His age range does fit our core age range better, but you would still have to take the risk that you're signing Faulk 2.0 while you're waiting patiently for Faulk 1.0s contract to expire to reshape the defense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 4 heures
Sujet:
Can we snag a star
Hypothetically yes, if the Blues don't re-sign him. But you're going to have to add significantly to Kakko if that's the route you're wanting to go. He's still young yes, but he's played 300 NHL games at this point. Seeing a large jump in production is possible but unlikely.
He's in an extremely similar position to where Puljujaarvi was when he was traded to Carolina. Puljujaarvi was traded for a guy in his D+3 or 4 who was still in Liiga and was very average. For comparison sake, that would be pretty similar to the Blues trading Simon Robertsson to the Rangers for Kaako
I get all situations aren't the same, but if you're looking at comparables to try and think tank a value for a guy like that, there aren't many better comparables.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
il y a 12 heures
Sujet:
Hahahsnns
I can't see how the Blues wouldn't take this!! Matheson is a big strong, two-way defenseman who is a horse and can matchup against top competition and still move the puck out of the zone... right?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
Offseason
I truthfully don't think Roslovic is a better Center than Hayes is, no reason to sign him. Super no reason to sign Rakell, too much term and we have way too much youth that should be fighting for those wing positions this year and next.
It would be ideal however to find a very short term center that could potentially play 2C in the event that one of our young guys does not push for a spot out of camp there.
Also, there's no reason Perunovich himself should expect to ask for a 3x3. Injury concerns alone are going to make it hard for him to expect much term. I'd bet he'll get about a year at around 1m, i wouldn't be terribly surprised if the Blues didn't qualify him though if they can't move on from Krug and can find a way to bring in a younger defenseman that has much more ability on the defensive end.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 15 h 25
Sujet:
Big Deal with ST Louis
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>The spinning is actually insane. Crazy how you can put so much faith in Nadeau and in the same breath say that Thomas hasn't proven himself to be a 1C. For what its worth Aho isn't playing 1C to any of the people you listed either.</div></div>
It’s actually impressive the way he spins things over and over.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 13 h 18
Sujet:
More ReTool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>To be honest there's so many different things going on with this team right now that I can't tell what direction is the right way to go. Hopefully Doug chooses one.
By my assessment though, rougher goaltending would've made this season the low-water mark. Now that might still happen this-coming year - with or without a Binner/Hofer combo (goaltending can be fickle). As exciting and promising as some of the younger guys are, they're not all here yet. And the veterans are just getting another year older, slower, etc. Wouldn't be the worst thing to be patient for another year and try to make some low-risk, high-reward moves to set up for the future.</div></div>
I’m more concerned about the Kyrou and Thomas iteration of the core. I’d consider those two and Parayko the core currently.
I think the most beneficial thing we could do would be to add a solid defenseman in the 24-27 age range. However in order to do that, we’re going to have to cut bait with either Krug or Faulk which I don’t think is a huge deal.
Ultimately I think the plan will be to middle out like this while contracts expire and then once they do make a large splash with a UFA defenseman if we can’t find one before. The issue with that is it’s rare those higher end caliber defenseman hit UFA status, because as we can all see, when you let one go you create a massive problem trying to stop gap or piece together the hole that’s left behind.
It’s definitely not a perfect plan, but there really is no perfect plan. I’d imagine we try and find a way to address a 2nd line center and move out a defenseman in hopes of adding another that can profile to be more of a two-way guy than we currently have.
I’d be shocked if our first pick in this draft was a forward, but there’s certainly an avenue where that could happen.
Truthfully I know it’s very unlikely, but I would move our 1st if we could get a guy like Harley out of Dallas.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 18
Sujet:
playoff without Jake
While i don't disagree that someone would take Reilly Smith for a late round pick, it will be after almost every higher end UFA is already under contract. I'd guess if you wanted to do it before you'd have to pay a pretty hefty price to move that salary.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 17
Sujet:
Big Deal with ST Louis
Would you trade Aho for that?
It's impractical to ask for a team to trade a young core piece that's signed long term to an extremely team friendly deal for pieces like that. That is the piece we are building around and have been for the last 2-3 years. There's no logical situation in which we tear down the centerpiece and expect good things to happen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 14
Sujet:
More ReTool
If our direction is to be worse next season than this I don't dislike any of the moves aside from the Leddy to Pittsburgh move.
However, as exciting as it is picking 10th vs 16th, I don't think it makes all too much of a difference once you look 5 years down the road. Don't get me wrong I would love for the Blues to trade up, but I don't think we're at the point where we can trade Binnington and not crumble. We may not make playoffs again next year, but after this year you have to expect the expectation would be to do so from the front office and from the players alone. Culture and belief in being able to win isn't something that's really too popular on here because you can't quantify it and compare. But I'd venture to guess if we made 2 or 3 moves to sell off pieces and finished towards the bottom of the league next year it would be crippling to the young core that we're building right now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 11 h 3
Sujet:
Any Shot Cozens is Available
Can't see Buffalo entertaining moving Cozens.
Also, signing Skjei long term to a large contract would probably be worse than doing nothing at all on the backend.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 2 h 38
Sujet:
Seider skates like Bambi
Don’t see a reason for the Blues to do that. Sure on paper it removes a year off of the cap commitment. But those are two players who don’t move the puck very well and we already have a bit of a deficiency in that department on our backend.
Faulk should be pretty easily tradeable after next season with the movement clause becoming limited.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 16 h 53
Sujet:
Rebuilt it
Faulk isn't waiving for San Jose. And there's nothing in there that would garner the Blues moving a 3rd for, let alone moving Faulk for. I get the idea, but the value is wacky to say the least.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 10 h 35
Sujet:
No More Meatballs
Truthfully, I don't see hardly any of a need for any of those pieces in a Buch return.
Completely understand the rationale. But unless we'd somehow move out Krug without retaining any salary, I don't see how or why we'd want to add Samuelsson. Not a bad player by any means, but he's more of what we have and would probably slot below Leddy anyways.
Really don't see a need for Rosen. Good prospect, doesn't fit a need though.
Could almost see it as more of a benefit if Rosen and Samuelsson played opposite positions. Middle 6 forward and a top 4 D prospect versus a 2nd pair defenseman and top 6 forward prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 9 h 43
Sujet:
Flyers
Last thing the Blues need to do is add more salary to the backend via a very average to below average defenseman at the expense of another part of their roster.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 0 h 2
Sujet:
What is your offer for Chychrun
Can’t really see the Blues adding a Chychrun unless they somehow moved out both Krug and Faulk. He’s pretty much just a younger LHD Faulk, I’m not sure both together would be a great idea.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 2 h 31
Sujet:
Ideal set up for next year
Would be very interesting to see the difference in impact a 10th overall pick has versus a 16th overall pick.
Unless the Blues would’ve done some mighty fine **** show tanking to end the season you likely weren’t getting in to the top 8.
There’s a very real possibility that this group finishing with 90+ points this season has a much more beneficial outcome than moving up 5-6 spots in the draft would’ve. Obviously we’d all rather pick there. But at the same time if you’re picking there you are desperately in need of making roster changes this offseason which we aren’t in a great position to do. Not to mention the confidence this very likely will instill in our young group that they can hang.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 2 h 24
Sujet:
Buch stays as 2c
You do realize that by buying out Krug you are tying a cap commitment for many more seasons and are essentially paying the same cap hit once you factor in the very odd signing of Vakimaki for next season right?
There are reasons to buy Krug out. But if your solution is re-signing Perunovich and signing Valimaki you are much better just keeping Krug and playing him as a 3rd pairing guy at even strength unless the situation calls for more offense.
He’s small yes, and it limits his defensive capabilities. But I see no reason to believe Valimaki is any better defensively, and he is much worse of a PPQB and offensive threat than Krug.
I don’t mind Hague, I think he could develop into a good 2nd pairing shutdown guy, he’s probably pretty close to there now. Roy is also a pretty good player. Maybe cap commitments to others could pry them away from Vegas, but I’d doubt it.
There are situations in which I’d be happy with the Blues giving up that haul to jump from 16 to 10 (as of now) but you better be 100% positive the guy you’re getting at that position will be a big piece of your future. I see no reason for NJD to do something like that though. I could however see them doing something similar if Binnington were a piece of the trade which I’m not sure we’ve reached that crossroads this offseason.
Signing Sam Reinhart to a massive contract on a career year is a very very risky gamble to take. Good chance in a. Different set of circumstances, you’ve just inked Huberdeau 2.0.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 16 h 11
Sujet:
Sens 24-25
Don't really see Chychrun as a great fit. Also don't see any way Saad would waive for Ottawa.
Don't really dislike the player, I just don't feel he's much different than Justin Faulk aside from younger and left handed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 12 h 4
Sujet:
Blues next year opening day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>The other thing to be mindful of here is what is really the upside of going scorched earth on Krug. They need to be moving out the bad contracts and Krug certainly has one, but if you're adding around half of his cap hit as dead money (either in a retention trade or in a buyout) PLUS signing Hanifin to a big extension, you're tying up more money in your defense on veteran players than you are right now. Has that worked out well at all for the Blues over the last couple years? Signing a big UFA player into his thirties is a win-now move. You're banking on getting a few good years in which you can hopefully win a cup and then deal with the bad years later. That doesn't track with where the Blues are. They are not winning now.
I've said it a million times but it would be malpractice for the Blues to add any more veterans with significant term/money contracts until they get rid of their commitments they currently have. If you're retaining or buying out Krug, you're getting rid of some of the commitment but not all of it. To reinforce this roster with an additional pricey veteran? I just don't see the point.</div></div>
I would agree with almost everything here. I think we also often overstate the degree of detriment in which Krug is to the roster. Regardless of how frustrating it is watching him he is a very high end puck mover.
The other thing is, i'm not sure the organization is of the same mindset that we're that far off for some odd reason. I think if we could clear out Krug's cap hit, they would heavily pursue a guy like hanifin. If not I still see us as having a bit of a deficiency with production from the backend that the organization will probably try and remedy this offseason with a low cost signing or trade. I think that's kind of the directive they took with the Krug for Sanheim deal that had arose last offseason.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 11 h 31
Sujet:
Blues next year opening day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>letsgoblues1967</b></div><div>Why do people always re-sign Alexandrov in these projections? Hasn't he shown he is not an NHL caliber player?</div></div>
I think it's for the sake of simplicity. I'd imagine if he were re-signed it would be to a 2way, 1 year deal hoping that he takes an offseason regimen a bit more seriously this offseason. Was reported that he was a little out of shape coming in to this season.
Regardless, the name probably would be different in the scratched part, but it's really hard to tell who it would be. Army generally brings in 2 or 3 guys on PTOs it seems like that are experienced vets that are either on their last leg or tweeners that it could pretty easily be instead for around the same cap hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 11 h 21
Sujet:
Blues next year opening day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>Yeah, I think your post about buying him out would likely be the option for St. Louis.</div></div>
Would have to imagine if the Blues were to line up another trade for Krug that made sense there would be a conversation of if you don't take this we're going to send you to Springfield. I guess I get it trying to be respectful to the player the first go around. But regardless, if Army wouldn't exercise the option to waive the player to strongarm a trade, there's virtually 0 reason for him to be so strongly against NMCs and still hand out NTCs. There's alot of dialogue that that's the main reason Petro left.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 10 h 17
Sujet:
Feeling Blues
You’re barking up the wrong tree if you want to trade for Thomas.
Switching in Kyrou for Thomas in this proposal as others have said could make some sense. We’re still killing our already weak scoring depth in doing so, and I really fail to see any clear separation between Kyrou and Tkachuk.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 avr. à 10 h 16
Sujet:
Kubalik
Bottom 6 scorers that don’t score at a high rate are a dime a dozen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. à 2 h 38
Sujet:
Bringing in proven winners
Front office seems pretty adamant about trying to compete sooner rather than later. Can’t see them moving Parayko with the main return being futures.
Not going to comment on value. Just wouldn’t make sense unless the player requested to be moved. We can’t replace him, and chances of someone signing in the offseason to try and stop gap the hole it would leave after a trade like this is essentially 0.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. à 2 h 32
Sujet:
This has to be better
Very hard to move out 3 contracts like that in an offseason. Even harder to lure that many UFAs in all at the same time.
Trade market usually opens up after the bigger UFAs have signed
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