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Who wants Coronato in Exchange for a Young Centre

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Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2024
Publié: 11 févr. 2024
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Flames need a Young Centre, one who’s ideally not an American

Who might be interested in American RW Matthew Coronato in exchange!?
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                11 févr. à 19 h 40
                #26
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                Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
                Random question, is Coleman untouchable?


                No but he has a NTC. Calgary also values him highly because he is a great mentor type player. So I highly doubt anyone will offer anywhere near our asking price
                11 févr. à 19 h 41
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                Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                No but he has a NTC. Calgary also values him highly because he is a great mentor type player. So I highly doubt anyone will offer anywhere near our asking price


                Yeah, that's kind of what I assumed. Are you guys going to retool? rebuild? Or is everything still up in the air?
                11 févr. à 19 h 43
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                Quoting: Shaun80
                Whos connelly? If Cattons gone we'll just draft Iggys kid.


                As a Center?
                11 févr. à 19 h 44
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                Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
                I'm not sure how the Canadian tax system is, but in addition to state taxes there's also federal tax. Does it work the same in Canada? A provincial tax and a federal tax?

                Yes. Federal + Provincial Tax, rates depend on what income bracket your income falls in too, but we don’t have additional Sales, Liquor or Land/Deed Transfer Taxes in Alberta like most Canadian Provinces and Territories

                Alberta is Common Sense Conservative Governed, just like Florida is with Republican Governor DeSantis
                11 févr. à 19 h 50
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                Quoting: KingofRnR
                Yes. Federal + Provincial Tax, rates depend on what income bracket your income falls in too, but we don’t have additional Sales, Liquor or Land/Deed Transfer Taxes in Alberta like most Canadian Provinces and Territories

                Alberta is Common Sense Conservative Governed, just like Florida is with Republican Governor DeSantis


                Oh boy. Common sense people like DeSantis who bans and mocks education? Let's stick to hockey lol
                11 févr. à 19 h 50
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                "one who’s ideally not an American" - ??
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                11 févr. à 19 h 57
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                Quoting: jonh514
                As a Center?


                Yeah, he actually plays centre, I looked up connelly he's a winger.
                11 févr. à 20 h 0
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                Ritchie is the only off limits prospect drafts guy the Avs have. Now if a legit 1B/2 center with term then yeah they would include him but they aren’t trading him otherwise.
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                11 févr. à 20 h 1
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                Quoting: Shaun80
                Whos connelly? If Cattons gone we'll just draft Iggys kid.


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                11 févr. à 20 h 32
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                Mesar + second for Coronato. Done deal. Or Beck + second + third
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                11 févr. à 20 h 47
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                Hmm. The Blues would probably give up Dean + a 3rd, not sure they'd move Stenberg at this time. But yeah, they'd be interested.
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                11 févr. à 21 h 7
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                Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
                Are Americans no longer allowed on the team?


                The fear is getting ridiculous among Flames fans.

                Fox also snubbed Carolina, but Flames fans tend to ignore that. There's a portion of Flames fans that think it's a Calgary only issue, with players not signing. Cutter Gauthier didn't want to sign with Philly, but again, they ignore that.

                It's a moot point, but Gaudreau would have stayed, if it weren't for the pandemic. His dad had health concerns in previous years and the travel restrictions made visiting difficult.
                Tkachuy was probbaly always leaving for warm weather.
                Hanifin not signing makes sense as the team is headed for a retool.
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                11 févr. à 21 h 9
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                Quoting: NHLfan10506
                Jack Hughes 2.0


                I would be surprised if Calgary takes Connelly.

                There was an off-ice incident in high school with him. The Flames have had two players with some pretty horrible off-ice incidents in recent months. They need to do a better job of assessing character.
                11 févr. à 21 h 11
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                Quoting: KingofRnR
                Weegar replaced Hanifin actually and we just got a Top-6 RHS in Kuzmenko. With Mangiapane, Coleman & Pospisil there’s no room for Coronato ant RW and Duehr & Klapka are probably just as good or effective. I’m not that high on Coronato if you couldn’t already tell.


                Kuzmenko is almost certainly not part of the long term plan. We are hoping to salvage and flip him before his contract expires.

                I like Pospisil but he realistically isn't a top 6 winger on a contender either, probably not even top 9.

                Calgary should also probably sell high on Mange and maybe even Sharangovich next year too. Pelletier will likely replace Mange on the Backlund line long term

                I think arguing 2 wingers over 27 and 1 year from UFA as the reason we should trade our #1 forward prospect is asinine.

                As for Weegar, we realistically are going to have a very hard time finding a top 4 RHD to replace Tanev long term. Top 4 RHD are in such high demand around the league, our best bet is looking for a top 4 LHD to pair with Ras.
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                11 févr. à 21 h 13
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                Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
                Yeah, that's kind of what I assumed. Are you guys going to retool? rebuild? Or is everything still up in the air?


                LA style rebuild. Tanev will be traded. If Hanifin won't stay he will be traded too. But with most of our top prospects being NHL ready we won't be a bottom feeder for more than a year or 2 after this
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                11 févr. à 21 h 14
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                Quoting: jonh514
                As a Center?


                He's played center in the WHL all year. Personally I think Calgary try and trades up for a 2nd pick in the teens to get Tij and one of Catton/Lindstrom
                11 févr. à 21 h 22
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                I would be surprised if Calgary takes Connelly.

                There was an off-ice incident in high school with him. The Flames have had two players with some pretty horrible off-ice incidents in recent months. They need to do a better job of assessing character.


                He made a mistake as teenager...and since, has done everything right.
                There are risks, but I think some teams will see how he responded as testament to his character.

                This is nothing like some of the other issues we have seen.

                On the ice, he is absolutely electric
                11 févr. à 21 h 23
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                Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                He's played center in the WHL all year. Personally I think Calgary try and trades up for a 2nd pick in the teens to get Tij and one of Catton/Lindstrom


                Have they tried Coronato at center?
                He played there his last year at Harvard and looked pretty comfortable.
                11 févr. à 21 h 33
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                Definitely not the Avs. Why would they add a RW prospect and deplete their pool of their only genuine C prospect when their position of biggest need now and going forward is going to be C? The only way Ritchie gets included in a trade is if they go after someone like JEE as an example, and even then he's probably a piece they try to avoid sending.
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                11 févr. à 22 h 20
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                Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                Kuzmenko is almost certainly not part of the long term plan. We are hoping to salvage and flip him before his contract expires.

                I like Pospisil but he realistically isn't a top 6 winger on a contender either, probably not even top 9.

                Calgary should also probably sell high on Mange and maybe even Sharangovich next year too. Pelletier will likely replace Mange on the Backlund line long term

                I think arguing 2 wingers over 27 and 1 year from UFA as the reason we should trade our #1 forward prospect is asinine.

                As for Weegar, we realistically are going to have a very hard time finding a top 4 RHD to replace Tanev long term. Top 4 RHD are in such high demand around the league, our best bet is looking for a top 4 LHD to pair with Ras.

                You know me, I lack patience and like to speculate. I was wrong about the Sharangovich Trade and Sharangovich too, so just like socks & underwear, I change my mind, opinion and direction fairly often

                I agree Pospisil is more of a Bottom-6 but he does best at RW. Not sure about selling high on Mang with his Cap Hit though

                So aside from just seeing who’s interested in Coronato and whether they’d consider swapping prospects, Centre, and RD Prospects are more ideal given Centres can play the Wings as well and RD’s are the toughest to replace and we’ve been lacking unless you think Zary will eventually move to Centre

                I’m saying play it safe and Draft more C & RD’s going forward, especially with Size and avoid Americans to ensure we have guys wanting to be and stay in Calgary. Nothing against Americans and I understand if given the choice they prefer south of the border, but I’m tired of losing them, hence my position

                Coronato signed and likely expected to be playing NHL Hockey right now. Doesn’t take long for a guy to get disgruntled, especially kids of his generation and the entitlement many of them have. How long will he be okay or does he get upset he’s in the AHL or not being given Top-6 Minutes in the NHL before he says hey, I want out. Time will tell. Who knows
                11 févr. à 22 h 26
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                The fear is getting ridiculous among Flames fans.

                Fox also snubbed Carolina, but Flames fans tend to ignore that. There's a portion of Flames fans that think it's a Calgary only issue, with players not signing. Cutter Gauthier didn't want to sign with Philly, but again, they ignore that.

                It's a moot point, but Gaudreau would have stayed, if it weren't for the pandemic. His dad had health concerns in previous years and the travel restrictions made visiting difficult.
                Tkachuy was probbaly always leaving for warm weather.
                Hanifin not signing makes sense as the team is headed for a retool.

                Fine points, but we do get the opportunity to interview these guys before Drafting them, so let’s do a better job of judging them and their character and knowing where they want to be and play in the end. Might save a lot of hassle and headache and this mainly applies to Top Picks, Prospects and Players. The rest will go wherever they get the most $$$, term or they’re just happy to get a contract to play NHL Hockey

                IOW - I just want to ensure we’re not using our Draft Capital, Time and Resources Developing Players just for them to leave when we need them
                11 févr. à 22 h 29
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                Quoting: KingofRnR
                Fine points, but we do get the opportunity to interview these guys before Drafting them, so let’s do a better job of judging them and their character and knowing where they want to be and play in the end. Might save a lot of hassle and headache and this mainly applies to Top Picks, Prospects and Players. The rest will go wherever they get the most $$$, term or they just happy to get a contract to play NHL Hockey


                Fox told Calgary and Carolina at different points he would sign. It was a pretty ballsy move for a 3rd round pick. Fortunately, for him he was good enough and it worked out.

                I just think it's overblown. Gaudreau played the 8 best years of his career for the Flames. Tkachuk likely stays if Johnny did.

                I'm fine with Haifin leaving. He's not worth 7.5x8.
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                11 févr. à 22 h 30
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                Quoting: NHLfan10506
                He made a mistake as teenager...and since, has done everything right.
                There are risks, but I think some teams will see how he responded as testament to his character.

                This is nothing like some of the other issues we have seen.

                On the ice, he is absolutely electric


                That's fair.

                I just think Calgary will be looking at someone squeaky clean given the Dube and Ronni situations.
                11 févr. à 22 h 31
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                Quoting: NHLfan10506
                Have they tried Coronato at center?
                He played there his last year at Harvard and looked pretty comfortable.


                Yes, he played 4C for like 2 games earlier this year. It didn't go well
                11 févr. à 22 h 39
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                That's fair.

                I just think Calgary will be looking at someone squeaky clean given the Dube and Ronni situations.

                Except Dube was Drafted in 2016 and the incident in question didn’t happen till 2018

                Kids do stupid things and make terrible decisions, especially with peer pressure. Doesn’t make anything okay, but it’s not preventable. We’ll never make people perfect or not do terrible things, especially when alcohol’s involved
                 
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