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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 févr. 2024
Publié: 10 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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32 Thoughts said that Treliving and Conroy are discussing a deal that would be Tanve+Hanifin for Leafs 1st + Prospect.
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TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
DAL
  1. Brodie, TJ (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
3rd goes to another team to retain $1.25M so that Dallas gets him at $1.25M.
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TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2183 500 000 $75 943 950 $0 $0 $7 556 050 $
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
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766 667 $766 667 $
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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875 000 $875 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
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10 févr. à 19 h 59
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NJD isn't helping you out with the cap
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The prospect in a trade like this would 100% be Minten or Cowan
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10 févr. à 20 h 0
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Calgary doesn't consider that 🤣
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Flames decline instantly man
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10 févr. à 20 h 2
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Lol only leaf fans can think a 24 year old with 2 nhl games is a prospect good enough for that trade.
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10 févr. à 20 h 4
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It would need to be a 1st + an A prospect as a START. Abbruzzesse and Timmins both have very little value.
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10 févr. à 20 h 5
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The prospect in a trade like this would 100% be Minten or Cowan


MAYBE Niemela. But a lot more would need to be added to this deal regardless.
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10 févr. à 20 h 7
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MAYBE Niemela. But a lot more would need to be added to this deal regardless.


For Hanifin+Tanev you're looking at 2 1sts of value+ or so.

The only prospects the leafs have with values around a 1st are Minten and Cowan
10 févr. à 20 h 8
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1st + Prospects as in two of Liljegren, Knies, Cowan and Minten maybe

I just don’t see TOR giving up the assets it would take tbh
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10 févr. à 20 h 12
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Quoting: dgibb10
For Hanifin+Tanev you're looking at 2 1sts of value+ or so.

The only prospects the leafs have with values around a 1st are Minten and Cowan


Niemela is very close to a 1st in my mind also. He has done extremely well since being drafted.

I agree with your valuation on what Calgary would want though.

Tanev = Just shy of a 1st in my mind
Hanifin = 1st + B Prospect + 3rd (if extended)

Niemela (B+ prospect, I have him as our #3 prospect) for Tanev
Tverberg (B prospect, I have him listed as our #4) + 1st + 3rd for Hanifin

Add 2 more 3rds for retention and to get the deal over the line.

I would want Hanifin extended though and maybe Tanev also.

So:

Hanifin (retained + extended) + Tanev (retained) for Niemela + Tverberg + 1st + 3 x 3rds? Niemela could also be Lily. I would be happy in both scenarios.
10 févr. à 20 h 14
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Niemela is very close to a 1st in my mind also. He has done extremely well since being drafted.

I agree with your valuation on what Calgary would want though.

Tanev = Just shy of a 1st in my mind
Hanifin = 1st + B Prospect + 3rd (if extended)

Niemela (B+ prospect, I have him as our #3 prospect) for Tanev
Tverberg (B prospect, I have him listed as our #4) + 1st + 3rd for Hanifin

Add 2 more 3rds for retention and to get the deal over the line.

I would want Hanifin extended though and maybe Tanev also.


I think you're going to run into a lot of trouble with trying to convince anyone else to value Tverberg and Niemela that high.

Especially Tverberg. Takes a lot to go from a 7th rounder to high value without cracking the show
10 févr. à 20 h 15
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I think you're going to run into a lot of trouble with trying to convince anyone else to value Tverberg and Niemela that high.

Especially Tverberg. Takes a lot to go from a 7th rounder to high value without cracking the show


There is a clear drop off in value between Niemela and Tverberg. I would say Tverberg is closer to a 3rd round pick right now.

I would be happy doing Lily over Niemela also.
10 févr. à 20 h 17
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There is a clear drop off in value between Niemela and Tverberg. I would say Tverberg is closer to a 3rd round pick right now.

I would be happy doing Lily over Niemela also.


I think Lilligren would be of more interest to a Calgary team who seems to want to do more of a soft rebuild.
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10 févr. à 20 h 18
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Quoting: dgibb10
The prospect in a trade like this would 100% be Minten or Cowan


Likely
10 févr. à 20 h 24
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Hanifin OR Tanev for a first and a prospect, I could believe.

If they're talking both, I think anything less than the 2024 first and Knies is a loss for Calgary.
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10 févr. à 20 h 24
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Quoting: KingofRnR
1st + Prospects as in two of Liljegren, Knies, Cowan and Minten maybe

I just don’t see TOR giving up the assets it would take tbh


Leafs aren’t moving any of them there’s just no scenario where Hanifin comes to Toronto please just start saying that he likely doesn’t even waive to come to Toronto and zero chance he resigns, where ever he’s traded he signs with Boston in the offseason there’s been zero rumours of Hanifin to Toronto for that reason
10 févr. à 20 h 42
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Why would Dallas want TJ Brodie?
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10 févr. à 20 h 55
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So, "32 thoughts". actually said nothing. I'm sure many playoff contenders GM are talking to non playoff teams GM about their UFAs. Of course GMs are talking'
Leafs could certainly acquiring virtually any upcoming UFA they would really want. But should they? Is Hanifan/Tanev really going to make a difference to Leaf this season.
10 févr. à 21 h 17
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Quoting: palhal
So, "32 thoughts". actually said nothing. I'm sure many playoff contenders GM are talking to non playoff teams GM about their UFAs. Of course GMs are talking'
Leafs could certainly acquiring virtually any upcoming UFA they would really want. But should they? Is Hanifan/Tanev really going to make a difference to Leaf this season.


Palhal joins the conversation to straight up spread lies lol.
10 févr. à 21 h 54
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That offer might Tanev but if you want Hanifin too Calgary won't be throwing him in for free. You'll have to pay for him too and he's worth more than Tanev. The price for both would be something like Knies + Minten/Cowan + 2024 1st.

No Calgary isn't interested in Abruzzese, Robertson or any of the usual rejects the Leafs herd keeps trying to pawn off on everyone. Timmons or Lily would have been a suitable minor add a week ago but Calgary doesn't need a 3rd pairing right shot RD since they picked up Pachal a week ago.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
Palhal joins the conversation to straight up spread lies lol.


Rajvinder who also has another account "fangm the author of this post strikes again. Never mind his previous mind reincarnations of banned accounts

How did a I lie? I know you have trouble with English, but I totally agree with "32 thoughts":. I'm just saying no further information was put to the viewer. Of course Conroy and Trevling talk about availability of players, just like all GMs do.
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Quoting: palhal
Rajvinder who also has another account "fangm the author of this post strikes again. Never mind his previous mind reincarnations of banned accounts

How did a I lie? I know you have trouble with English, but I totally agree with "32 thoughts":. I'm just saying no further information was put to the viewer. Of course Conroy and Trevling talk about availability of players, just like all GMs do.


Quoting: palhal
Rajvinder who also has another account "fangm the author of this post strikes again. Never mind his previous mind reincarnations of banned accounts

How did a I lie? I know you have trouble with English, but I totally agree with "32 thoughts":. I'm just saying no further information was put to the viewer. Of course Conroy and Trevling talk about availability of players, just like all GMs do.


Yes everyone here is just the same person all colluding against Palhal. That makes way more sense than to just acknowledge that everyone agrees you know nothing about hockey.
12 févr. à 13 h 9
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Yes everyone here is just the same person all colluding against Palhal. That makes way more sense than to just acknowledge that everyone agrees you know nothing about hockey.


Thanks for you comments former Nucks exec or Ravjinder or fangm.....Same guy.
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13 févr. à 12 h 49
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Yes, everyone else on here who hates you are all the same guy.
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Rajvinder who also has another account "fangm the author of this post strikes again. Never mind his previous mind reincarnations of banned accounts

How did a I lie? I know you have trouble with English, but I totally agree with "32 thoughts":. I'm just saying no further information was put to the viewer. Of course Conroy and Trevling talk about availability of players, just like all GMs do.


Thanks for your support.
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