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Créé par: ell19
Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 29 nov. 2023
Publié: 29 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 100 000 $
33 500 000 $
54 000 000 $
36 999 000 $
56 000 000 $
33 670 000 $
811 000 000 $
55 200 000 $
2850 000 $
31 900 000 $
43 700 000 $
2970 000 $
1960 000 $
Transactions
CHI
  1. Demko, Thatcher
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Jones, Seth
  2. Luypen, Jalen
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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Logo de DAL
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de NYR
Logo de CHI
2026
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Logo de OTT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 663 167 $0 $4 925 000 $2 836 833 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
C
RFA - 2
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
6 999 000 $6 999 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
960 000 $960 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DG
RFA - 2
3 670 000 $3 670 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
962 500 $962 500 $
G
RFA - 1
970 000 $970 000 $
DG
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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29 nov. 2023 à 14 h 27
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Canucks laugh and hang up the phone
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29 nov. 2023 à 14 h 30
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Canucks decline. Demko isn’t getting moved for anything. He’s a massive reason why the Canucks have been one of the best teams in the league this season, and he’s finally blossomed into a Vezina contender now that he has a competent defensive core in front of him.
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29 nov. 2023 à 14 h 33
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Demko to Chicago?
Ugh no thanks.
29 nov. 2023 à 14 h 56
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A couple issues:

1) Demko is critical to the Canucks' success, so he isn't likely to move unless you blow their socks off; and
2) What you have going back to the Canucks is likely the cost of trading Jones' horrible contract.

So from the Canucks perspective, they get another OEL and give up one of the best goalies in the league.
29 nov. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Neither team makes this trade. Demko is too valuable to Vancouver and the draft capital is too valuable to the Hawks. Comesso is a year or two away and he's looking VERY good in Rockford

On top of that, they're not adding that many FAs. They'll build with prospects and fill the holes with FAs.
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29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 7
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Way too many free agent signings. 13? Maybe 4. 5 at the most. And the Hawks aren't trading an almost certain top 5 pick for a goalie.
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29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 36
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Canucks counter with Demko for Bedard.
29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 38
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Demko doesn’t get you that package. Asking for the Hawks first is a deal breaker.
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29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 39
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Quoting: audiodave
Canucks counter with Demko for Bedard.


To be fair this could be Demko for Celebrini....
29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 42
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Way too many free agent signings. 13? Maybe 4. 5 at the most. And the Hawks aren't trading an almost certain top 5 pick for a goalie.


The trade is also getting rid of one of if not the worst contract in hockey.
29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 52
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The trade is also getting rid of one of if not the worst contract in hockey.


Which doesn't hurt this team for the foreseeable future. No reason to move him just to move him.
29 nov. 2023 à 15 h 53
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Canucks counter with Demko for Bedard.


The OP is a Leafs fan just stirring the pot.
29 nov. 2023 à 16 h 51
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The trade is also getting rid of one of if not the worst contract in hockey.


And even if the Hawks agreed w/ your take on Jones' contract, they aren't trading that same likely top 5 to move Jones either. Hawks won't have any issues w/ Jones contract for at least 4 more seasons. No point in spending anything to move it now.
29 nov. 2023 à 17 h 14
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Congrats on destroying the rebuild and turning the Hawks into a middle of the pack team. You also have no money to sign Bedard. WTG
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30 nov. 2023 à 15 h 32
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Not a chance in hell CHI does this. A hot handed goalie isn't getting any team to give up this much, let alone a rebuilding CHI Blackhawks team. We have goalies on the way. We're fine for now, and we will address goaltending IF and WHEN needed, which is WAYYYY down the road.
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30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
And even if the Hawks agreed w/ your take on Jones' contract, they aren't trading that same likely top 5 to move Jones either. Hawks won't have any issues w/ Jones contract for at least 4 more seasons. No point in spending anything to move it now.


I think this trade makes very little sense; however, if you look at the full AGM the OP is trying to make a competitive team for next year. In that context, one of the top goalies in the league and unloading one of the worst contracts in hockey makes it closer in value for a top 5 pick.
30 nov. 2023 à 20 h 5
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I think this trade makes very little sense; however, if you look at the full AGM the OP is trying to make a competitive team for next year. In that context, one of the top goalies in the league and unloading one of the worst contracts in hockey makes it closer in value for a top 5 pick.


That is a common talking point and misconception that is completely false. Jones does not have "one of the worst contracts in hockey". That is based on old data from a very small sample size of his on ice play. Not mention, CHI has zero need to move Jones contract, or any salary, for that matter.
30 nov. 2023 à 22 h 57
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That is a common talking point and misconception that is completely false. Jones does not have "one of the worst contracts in hockey". That is based on old data from a very small sample size of his on ice play. Not mention, CHI has zero need to move Jones contract, or any salary, for that matter.


This is ACGM. Look at the post above - there is not enough room for Seth Jones' cap on this *fake* team. That is what we are discussing here.
1 déc. 2023 à 7 h 30
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This is ACGM. Look at the post above - there is not enough room for Seth Jones' cap on this *fake* team. That is what we are discussing here.


What does that even mean? Yes. This is ACGM. The point of ACGM is try to guess what is going to happen. Creating a trade proposal that is based on a false premise is completely pointless. So, me telling you and OP why it is false is completely acceptable and should be part of the discussion. Seth Jones is not a cap dump, therefore this entire ACGM along with your comments is pointless.
 
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