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Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 14 h 14

Sujet: Subtract to Build up

Zub for Boeser straight up is questionable. There's no way the Canucks would be adding anything, in fact they might want the Senators to add .

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 47

Sujet: Milller and Torts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>What in the blazes is that Ottawa trade???</div></div>

As much as I hate trading Hoglander, this trade brings some much needed grit to the Canucks and moves Poolman out. Hoglander is not really a third or fourth line player and there has to be some incentive for Ottawa to take Poolman. Watson scored the same number of goals as Hoglander and only 2 points less in only 2 more games. There is no doubt that Hoglander is the better offensive player and is younger but I think Watson is more what the Canucks need. And it's only for 1 year.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 14 h 59

Sujet: Even Swap

Maybe Boeser, Garland, Pearson and our first for Matthews? No other Leaf is very interesting! So sayeth Kenan.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 juin à 19 h 56

Sujet: todays play

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Garland does not return a #2 pick plus two good prospects.</div></div>

It's Garland AND the 15th OA

Forum: Armchair-GM19 juin à 18 h 23

Sujet: one big trade and one not so big

Neither need nor want Letang especially for that term and money

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juin à 12 h 36

Sujet: Convenient Realism

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>He’s a damn good player, but the contract expiring and the age and reported contract demand are gonna scare off a lot of teams and drive down the value.

Some minds will be blown when no ext and no trade heading to the deadline…and they get a late 1st and B prospect as a rental</div></div>

Well, what is the 9th highest points scorer in the NHL worth (Miller 99 pts)? These are the salaries of the 5 forwards that finished just below him in points: Marner 97 pts - $10.90M, Panarin 96 pts - $11.64M, Connor 93 pts - $$7.14M, Rantanen 92 pts - $9.25M, Kane 92pts $10.50M. What is one of these players worth? Jack Eichel, who has never scored 90 pts, plus 2023 3rd round pick got a return of a top player, an "A" prospect and a 2022 1st and a 2023 2nd. I'm not saying that Miller should get that big a return but he should be worth a top 4 Dman or a top 6 forward plus a prospect and a 1st. Whether he is a rental or not depends on whatever team he may be traded to.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 juin à 12 h 43

Sujet: Blasphemy

No Thanks!

Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin à 19 h 58

Sujet: todays team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>Hard no from Vancouver. Carlo is a good top 4dman but not enough upside for a straight up deal for Miller. Also Rathbone has much higher upside than Studnicka who is at best a future 3C and more likely a 4th liner IMO.</div></div>

Canucks need a top 4 RHD more than they need Miller at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin à 16 h 42

Sujet: todays team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Pass on Poolman - even with retention there's just no need there. I was confused when you guys signed him last year.</div></div>

I under stand that the 'Canes may not even resign Bear so why not take Poolman and the pick?

Forum: Armchair-GM1 juin à 16 h 41

Sujet: todays team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>As always: no, the bruins aren’t moving carlo for a rental.</div></div>

Maye the deal isn't so much about Miller as it local boy Rathbone. He would probably be the Bruins #2 LHD ahead of Grzelcyk, Forbort et al.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 mai à 2 h 32

Sujet: 1 step backwards 2 steps forwards

Just Offer Sheet Roy...that only costs the 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GM27 mai à 15 h 18

Sujet: 3 hometown guys

Not nearly enough. Add Maniscalco then perhaps

Forum: Armchair-GM24 mai à 11 h 49

Sujet: sandpaper and skill

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Trading away Podkolzin for nothing because he’s Russian? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard today. You must think he’s the main cause of Putin’s decisions.</div></div>

I love Podkolzin's game but the political situation may make having Russian players untenable. I absolutely DO NOT blame the players for their home country's actions, but the NHL has severed relations with the KHL. Who knows what is next? Will the Canadian government sanction all Russian nationals? The trade was done purely to protect tthe team.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mai à 2 h 18

Sujet: Taking advantage of the Leafs fire sale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lambchopz</b></div><div>A hypothetical “fire sale” involves trading their top guns, not solid bottom 6 pieces for minor scraps</div></div>

Perhaps Kampf would be a better player to fill the Canucks' needs but I happen to like Engvall. As to the fire sale.......
The Leafs will be moving at least 2 of Marner, Nylander, Kerfoot, Kampf and Holl.
They should also try to move Tavares, Muzzin and Reilly but age and the NTCs and NMCs will make that difficult.
THE ONLY $11 MILLION PLAYER ON THAT TEAM IS MATTHEWS!

Forum: Fauteuil - DG24 avr. à 18 h 31

Sujet: JT Miller

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>It’s a pretty solid offer for Miller, but I’d prefer Barron over Mailloux</div></div>

Barron and Fairbrother instead of Mailloux and Tuch ??

Forum: Armchair-GM22 avr. à 16 h 58

Sujet: Letang should be priority

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Our prospect pool is already horrendous, we need 1st round picks to help stock it up. I love the idea of trading for Marino, but it makes way more sense to trade Boeser or Garland for him, or maybe Miller for Marino+</div></div>

like the Miller for Marino +

Forum: Armchair-GM22 avr. à 14 h 52

Sujet: Letang should be priority

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Canucks aren’t trading any 1st round picks</div></div>

Why not? Are we afraid they'll mis out on another Dan Woodley, Jason Herter. Alex Stojanov, Libor Polasek, Nathan Smith, or Patrick White? Draft picks, even first rounders, are always a gamble. When taking established NHLers you know what you are getting. The Canucks would have to decide whether they would rather gamble or take a young (24) RHD WITH 185 NHL games and a RW who is competent, albeit some what overpaid. Perhaps there is another Patrik Stefan out there?

Forum: Armchair-GM13 avr. à 11 h 23

Sujet: Anotha one

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zyyyp</b></div><div>Not a horrible offer but Devils pass</div></div>

Good. Huge overpay for Zacha and 10 spots

Forum: Armchair-GM10 avr. à 12 h 36

Sujet: Boeser

If I was managing Vancouver I'd do that deal.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 mars à 21 h 0

Sujet: If playoffs dont go well

Done deal for Miller

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 19 h 57

Sujet: Trade Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Canucks fans you do realize Luke Schenn is about as valuable as a 5th or 6th rnd pick. Big yes, slow yes, plays good hockey no.</div></div>

Big yes, slow yes, plays good hockey yes.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 17 h 39

Sujet: cap space

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>That's an easy no from the Rangers.</div></div>

That's alright. See you on the golf course by May 16th.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 17 h 34

Sujet: cap space

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>herzausstein</b></div><div>Nashville isn’t going to trade their 1st pairing rhd + a solid but unremarkable prospect + a 1st to boost their second line wing (boeser doesnt displace Forsberg or Duchene from the top line).</div></div>

Is Forsberg going to be there next year? You don't want to part with Fabbro? I'd take Myers, Kondelik a first and a sixth instead, or perhaps Carrier, Kondelik, a first and a third.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 13 h 44

Sujet: Realistic

Not even sure I would do Matthews for Demko...straight up. There are lots of good goal scorers but there are few elite goalies.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 15 h 11

Sujet: which JT Miller package is best

Why the retention? If teams want Miller it is up to them to clear cap space or offer something incredibly good.
None of these deals are good enough for retention IMO. All of them would require either another prospect or pick.
Any 4 of those players might be good enough to retain salary.
The Canucks won't trade Miller to get rid of him. Cap space and his age would be the drivers behind a Miller trade.

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