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8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 31
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Trade confirmed: Minnesota Wild - Tampa Bay Lightning
Détails de la transaction
Les Wild du Minnesota font l’acquisition de:
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Zach Bogosian · 850 000 $850 000 $1 050 000 $
Somme: 850 000 $850 000 $1 050 000 $
Variation: +850 000 $
Variation: +850 000 $
Variation: +1 050 000 $
Les Lightning de Tampa Bay font l’acquisition de:
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
Somme: 0 $0 $0 $
Variation: -850 000 $
Variation: -850 000 $
Variation: -1 050 000 $
8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 33
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Tampa wins.

Getting a draft pick for a waivers clearance is always nice.
8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 35
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Maybe it will turn out as a good addition like Maroon

Guerin likes those Tampa vets
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8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 35
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Fair deal but also why move out Addison only to add Bogo?
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8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 38
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Fair deal but also why move out Addison only to add Bogo?


Looks like their current cap space is $9,868. If they wanted the vet presence which it looks like they do...then someone needed to go or at least get sent down or waived etc...
8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 40
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Minnesota adding more goons. Still not getting past the 1st round I'm afraid.
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8 nov. 2023 à 16 h 8
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Fine trade, maybe even a Minny W.
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8 nov. 2023 à 16 h 24
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Well it’s not an underpayment at least. Hope it works out for Minnesota
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 39
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Thats all it cost

Tree why we not do this lul
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 51
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Zach Bogosian isn't going to change your team's fortune, but he's definitely worth more than a 7th. Wild win.
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8 nov. 2023 à 19 h 0
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Remember when Bogo was free on waivers like a month ago?
8 nov. 2023 à 19 h 38
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Remember when Bogo was free on waivers like a month ago?


Forgot to check that beforehand.

Fiddlesticks ...

Tampa wins then.
8 nov. 2023 à 20 h 5
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Am I the only one who didn’t even know Bogosian was still in the league?
8 nov. 2023 à 21 h 9
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Forgot to check that beforehand.

Fiddlesticks ...

Tampa wins then.


Actually, since he cleared waiver, he doesn't have to clear them again for 30 days, I think. The rules are confusing.
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8 nov. 2023 à 21 h 16
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Actually, since he cleared waiver, he doesn't have to clear them again for 30 days, I think. The rules are confusing.


Either way, players that clear waivers have no trade value.

Bogosian is no exception.
8 nov. 2023 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: sensonfire
Either way, players that clear waivers have no trade value.

Bogosian is no exception.


since he was traded for value, then he would be an exception lol.
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8 nov. 2023 à 21 h 55
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Quoting: drambui
since he was traded for value, then he would be an exception lol.


My point is that the team that trades a player for value when he doesn't have any is the team that wins the trade.

In this case, that team is Tampa.
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9 nov. 2023 à 8 h 46
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What is the purpose of this for Minnesota? Tampa gets rid of this small cap dump.
9 nov. 2023 à 11 h 25
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What is the purpose of this for Minnesota? Tampa gets rid of this small cap dump.


After giving up oodles of goals to start the season, the Wild needed someone with size and grit on the right side who can help kill penalties with Middleton being the only other one. Writing was also on the wall for Addison to be the odd guy out since late last season, and he is replaceable on the PP. Just cannot have him and Spurgeon both starting on the same NHL roster.
9 nov. 2023 à 13 h 26
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Quoting: CoolHandL
After giving up oodles of goals to start the season, the Wild needed someone with size and grit on the right side who can help kill penalties with Middleton being the only other one. Writing was also on the wall for Addison to be the odd guy out since late last season, and he is replaceable on the PP. Just cannot have him and Spurgeon both starting on the same NHL roster.


Imma take your word for it. I'm an Avs fan so I don't know much about Minnesota
9 nov. 2023 à 14 h 26
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22 nov. 2023 à 3 h 15
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Quoting: sensonfire
Either way, players that clear waivers have no trade value.

Bogosian is no exception.


I would argue clearing waivers increases a player's value.
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25 nov. 2023 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
I would argue clearing waivers increases a player's value.


Yep especially the depth type like Bogosian
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25 nov. 2023 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
I would argue clearing waivers increases a player's value.


If a player clears waivers, it means they aren't wanted on another NHL team.

If anything, it should destroy his trade value.
26 nov. 2023 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: sensonfire
If a player clears waivers, it means they aren't wanted on another NHL team.


It means teams don't want him on their NHL roster yes. However, he would stay in the AHL if he's traded after clearing waivers. While there probably aren't many teams who have space (roster slot or cap) to keep him on their NHL roster, Bogo is exactly the kind of veteran Dman call-up teams dream to have in the playoffs.

I think Bogosian having cleared waivers in the AHL probably has more value at the deadline than if the receiving team has to keep him on the roster. Even if the increase in value is just from more teams being able to fit an AHLer into their organization.
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