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Créé par: IDKtbh
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2023
Publié: 28 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 875 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Jones, Seth (4 750 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Johansson, Albert
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
2.
MTL
  1. Lombardi, Amadeus
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DET)
3.
DET
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
4.
DET
  1. Keller, Clayton (3 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Vejmelka, Karel
ARI
  1. Buium, Shai [Liste de réserve]
  2. Doucet, Alexandre
  3. Fabbri, Robby
  4. Niederbach, Theodor [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  9. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
Logo de MIN
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
2024
Logo de DET
Logo de DAL
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
2025
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de BOS
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $77 344 722 $0 $5 257 500 $6 155 278 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
878 333 $878 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 725 000 $2 725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 16
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Chicago declines
Montreal probably accept
Vancouver jump on that deal
The Arizona deal is pretty even. Could see them accept and decline
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 18
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Chicago declines
Montreal probably accept
Vancouver jump on that deal
The Arizona deal is pretty even. Could see them accept and decline

Thank you.
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 24
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Hawks definitely decline. Retaining almost $5m for 7 years is out of the question
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks definitely decline. Retaining almost $5m for 7 years is out of the question

Fair
28 mai 2023 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Chicago declines
Montreal probably accept
Vancouver jump on that deal
The Arizona deal is pretty even. Could see them accept and decline


Why exactly would MTL accept that?
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 37
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There isnt a suzuki trade the habs accept that doesnt include Seider
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Why exactly would MTL accept that?


Suzuki isn’t an allstar. He is a very good first liner. Getting 9 overall, a second and a third in a very deep draft is incredible. I love Suzuki but he isn’t worth more than a guy like Debrincat or Connor
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 40
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Canucks pass
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Why exactly would MTL accept that?


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Why exactly would MTL accept that?


Lomardi looks like a good prospect and 9th overall. And a former 5th overall with upside. Id take it. Suzuki is overrated by Habs fans

You draft Leonard or Moore at 9 and michkov at 5
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 47
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Lomardi looks like a good prospect and 9th overall. And a former 5th overall with upside. Id take it. Suzuki is overrated by Habs fans

You draft Leonard or Moore at 9 and michkov at 5


Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Suzuki isn’t an allstar. He is a very good first liner. Getting 9 overall, a second and a third in a very deep draft is incredible. I love Suzuki but he isn’t worth more than a guy like Debrincat or Connor


Quoting: Black61
There isnt a suzuki trade the habs accept that doesnt include Seider


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Why exactly would MTL accept that?


Take out the 2nd and 3rd and replace it with DET's 17th overall and habs accept. Otherwise its a no
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks definitely decline. Retaining almost $5m for 7 years is out of the question


What about 4.9
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 57
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Vancouver isn't doing that
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28 mai 2023 à 20 h 58
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Lomardi looks like a good prospect and 9th overall. And a former 5th overall with upside. Id take it. Suzuki is overrated by Habs fans

You draft Leonard or Moore at 9 and michkov at 5


Saying zadina at almost 24 by next season start has top 5 upside still is quite frankly pretty stupid.

The odds of 9th overall being better than suzuki is miniscule.
28 mai 2023 à 21 h 17
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Not only is the value not fair, even if it was, canadiens reject. No point to move their captain.
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Chicago declines
Montreal probably accept
Vancouver jump on that deal
The Arizona deal is pretty even. Could see them accept and decline


Van should def not be interested in this
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Chicago declines
Montreal probably accept
Vancouver jump on that deal
The Arizona deal is pretty even. Could see them accept and decline


Vancouver absolutely does not jump on that deal
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 39
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
Take out the 2nd and 3rd and replace it with DET's 17th overall and habs accept. Otherwise its a no

I’d prob go a future 1st but the 17th I think would be too much
28 mai 2023 à 21 h 39
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Literally no GM would trade away Suzuki for a return so pitiful. Maybe Chiarelli or Benning.
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28 mai 2023 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: Black61
There isnt a suzuki trade the habs accept that doesnt include Seider


Habs would have to add though.
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Van should def not be interested in this


Quoting: Juiceman
Vancouver absolutely does not jump on that deal


I agree I think Vancouver should sit tight and not pay to move anyone. I don’t see any sense in rushing into any transaction like that but it seems to be a popular trade option for them on this site.
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Quoting: Bloodraven
Literally no GM would trade away Suzuki for a return so pitiful. Maybe Chiarelli or Benning.

I might not be enough but let’s not act like that is a pitiful package. A bit of an exaggeration to say the least.
28 mai 2023 à 21 h 47
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I might not be enough but let’s not act like that is a pitiful package. A bit of an exaggeration to say the least.


Its not a exaggeration. By that logic the hBs cpuld have gotten seider for the 13th pick last year if they had added a 2nd and 3rd along with some btier and bust players
28 mai 2023 à 21 h 52
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I might not be enough but let’s not act like that is a pitiful package. A bit of an exaggeration to say the least.


Nick Suzuki, ironman streak, never missed a game, good 2way, good playoff performer, will score 30/40+ for years to come on a contract that will age beautifully as the cap continues to go up. And he's the captain.

Why exactly would the Habs do this? And to a division rival no less?

If a Nick Suzuki trade would happen it would have to be a hockey trade. Like Weber for Subban. Not picks and prospects.

Kent Hughes has been trying to acquire players who are already a bit further along the development path, like Dach.
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Its not a exaggeration. By that logic the hBs cpuld have gotten seider for the 13th pick last year if they had added a 2nd and 3rd along with some btier and bust players

I’m sorry; what?
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Quoting: Bloodraven
Nick Suzuki, ironman streak, never missed a game, good 2way, good playoff performer, will score 30/40+ for years to come on a contract that will age beautifully as the cap continues to go up. And he's the captain.

Why exactly would the Habs do this? And to a division rival no less?

If a Nick Suzuki trade would happen it would have to be a hockey trade. Like Weber for Subban. Not picks and prospects.

Kent Hughes has been trying to acquire players who are already a bit further along the development path, like Dach.

I’m not saying they would or should do it; I was just responding to the comment that the return was pitiful because it isn’t.
 
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