Trade by sportsnet and habs buying

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 de 1

Créé par: DucharmetheDOMinator

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 21 déc. 2022

Publié: 21 déc. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Spprtsnet wrote an article on top Destinations for Bo Horvat. Montreal was #1.
If that's so, I have alot of reason to believe he'll stay in Vancouver, but we will go with this trade proposal, let me know what you think.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/

Little fun Idea I had. Cap is okay for deadline Cap space. It would theoretically work.
How good is this team? What are the holes?

Transactions

MTL

Horvat, Bo

Détails additionnels:

W/Extension.
With this move obviously means Habs would contend, and they also get a 2C for the future so no need for Bedard / Fantilli / Yager.

VAN

Beck, Owen
Savard, David
Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Now Florida's 1st will be around 15 - 20. This would be the highest 1st round pick in 2023 that Vancouver would be able to get , think of the other teams interested, it'd be around 25 - 30 of they even still have their 1st in 23. So I understand that. Beck is a great prospect just drafted 33rd overall in 22. He can make an impact next year even, he has high end 3C projection, or a 2C. I'm personally very high on him, but it'd be an enticing piece to Vancouver. Struble is like a throw in with Value to Vancouver, since I doubt he'd sign in MTL, with all of our LD in the pipeline.
Good sandpaper defenseman with #4/#5 potential. Savard is there to make it steady for the Canucks. They are still looking to hover around a playoff position, therefore Savard can be a great anchor to a terrible defensive team. Overall, I think Vancouver ca get a better offer elsewhere, but, it depends if they value that 1st a lot, that they might take this offer over others. For the Candiens, if contending - that's an easy yes, but for the future, if we do this, we have to be committed to contending. Which takes us to our next trade:

MTL

Helleson, Drew
Klingberg, John (3 500 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Should be noted that the Habs were very interested and were close to signing John Klingberg in the 2022 offseason.

ANA

Harris, Jordan
Mysak, Jan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Habs look to sharpen the right side with Klingberg in the process they give up Mysak and a pick, it may not be enough, therefore Habs swap Harris for Helleson. Harris has more value because he's NHL ready currently and is playing very well. Helleson can help Habs right side . It works well.

MTL

Bobrovsky, Sergei
Gudas, Radko
Samoskevich, Mackie [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (FLA)

Détails additionnels:

The Last hole in the Habs lineup is a #1 Goaltender.
Bobrovsky maybe can turn around his game in Montreal, and it's a good gamble considering the things they are receiving in return.

Habs cuts the cats some slack for the chiarot deal 😉

FLA

Détails additionnels:

Currently Florida would have an extra 4m in cap at the deadline than before this trade, and next year they have more than 6,5m extra, which would be helpful for them.

MTL

TOR

Dvorak, Christian
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Leafs very interested in Dvorak, and are willing to pay around this.

MTL

Détails additionnels:

No room in Calgary for Wolf, little swap w/ready nhlers who can't make their respective lineups.

CGY

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	75 092 499 $	1 132 500 $	4 770 000 $	7 407 501 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 4
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 3	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Klingberg, John 0 $0 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Bobrovsky, Sergei 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Gudas, Radko 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Richard, Anthony 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 3		Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 37

jet11567

Rejoint: mars 2021

Messages: 3,017

Mentions "j'aime": 1,265

Habs are last in the Atlantic they aren’t trading futures

Campabee et Kyriakos_Grizzly a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 39

JaredOfLondon

Rejoint: mai 2019

Messages: 19,774

Mentions "j'aime": 7,384

Yeah, thats pure clickbait, Montreal makes about as much sense as the mississauga ice dogs as a landing spot for horvat.
Also lol at the leafs trade, no one is interested in dvorak

habitantlecolon et jet11567 a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 39

Gmonwy

GO FLAMES GO

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 18,402

Mentions "j'aime": 10,717

No room for Wolf in Calgary? Exact same situation here in this scenario. 3 years after this one for the starter, then Vladar has 1 more year than Montembeault. And the main cap casualty for Calgary this off-season is Vladar.

habitantlecolon a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 40

Gmonwy

GO FLAMES GO

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 18,402

Mentions "j'aime": 10,717

Quoting: Gmonwy

And Sutter won't play any young guys. He requires at least 2 of Ritchie Lewis Lucic and Rooney be in the lineup at all times.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 44

Timmins_Is_Eating_Tims

Summary Writer

Rejoint: juin 2022

Messages: 1,279

Mentions "j'aime": 329

sorry Im to lazy to read the Horvat trade explanation

habitantlecolon a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 44

Campabee

Rejoint: nov. 2018

Messages: 15,574

Mentions "j'aime": 6,468

Habs aren't contending and if we are trading all that for Horvat, why wouldn't we just wait until the offseason and trade/sign PLD who wants to be here and said he won't extend in Winnipeg and is likely only going to cost the Cats 1st + Barron.

habitantlecolon a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 48

Salzy

Rejoint: nov. 2018

Messages: 5,156

Mentions "j'aime": 5,974

ooof that Ducks trade is bad, no reason for the Ducks to include Helleson, like none at all

Ducks probably rather just a 23 1st compared to a prospect and a second

Is Harris even an upgrade on Helleson?

We've had a number of similar players to Harris recently that we let walk for nothing. I dont see Verbeek valuing the undersized Harris in the same tier as Helleson, who has the size and playstyle Verbeek wants

Harris being in the NHL a year earlier doesnt mean a thing when hes a year older. They are on the "same" trajectory with the size and playstyle advantage (to the ducks) goes to Helleson

GiggywithGibby, CHAR et MeetYourMakar a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 15 h 50

GiggywithGibby

Future Ducks legend

Rejoint: juin 2022

Messages: 10,117

Mentions "j'aime": 6,886

Modifié 21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 0

Yeah, that's a hard no adding Helleson, like a deal breaking no. Anaheim is going to have a massive hole on the right side defense to address this offseason, we can't afford to ship off ANY RHD prospects unless we are getting a young, NHL caliber RHD in return, of which Harris is not.

I don't even think that package get's you Klingberg with retention. For starters you'd need to move the 2nd forward to 2023.

The reason you were close to signing Klingberg was because EDM wanted you to flip him to them at 50% retained salary.

CHAR a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 2

KingExLeafs

Rejoint: juill. 2021

Messages: 4,244

Mentions "j'aime": 653

No thanks.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 8

#10

Ledge_And_Dairy

Rejoint: juin 2019

Messages: 38,674

Mentions "j'aime": 19,777

Brutal trade for Calgary. Wolf alone is worth way more than that

Gmonwy a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 10

#11

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 15,605

Mentions "j'aime": 8,625

First off Montreal isn't the #1 destination for Bo Horvat, Montreal isn't making the playoffs so he's not being traded there. There's no way in hell Bo Horvat would extend long term with Montreal you'd be looking at a 8 year deal worth close to $8,500,000 to $9,000,000 per to sign him. And a rebuilding team isn't going to give that much up.

Sportsnet listed 4 possible destinations for Horvat Detroit was also included as well, Along with Boston and the Islanders i believe. As of now Horvat is a pure rental as Allvin won't let Horvat's agent talk to other teams about a possible extension. Anyways zero chance of Horvat playing for Montreal for a long time. Sorry he didn't grown up a Habs fan but a Red Wings fan.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 17

#12

MeetYourMakar

Rejoint: févr. 2020

Messages: 2,830

Mentions "j'aime": 2,481

I've tried to pry Helleson from the Ducks, their fans won't move him(for good reason).

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 21

#13

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Rejoint: oct. 2017

Messages: 32,747

Mentions "j'aime": 31,470

Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Literally everyone is a Wings fan according to you

Gmonwy, SevenLeg et Kyriakos_Grizzly a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 26

#14

Tintin

do not Devil my ass

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 4,908

Mentions "j'aime": 4,268

Quoting: justaBoss

Literally everyone is a Wings fan according to you

Only losers do not support the Red Wings and Bo Horvat is certainly not a loser

SevenLeg et justaBoss a aimé ceci.

21 déc. 2022 à 16 h 36

#15

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Rejoint: oct. 2017

Messages: 32,747

Mentions "j'aime": 31,470

Quoting: Tintin

Only losers do not support the Red Wings and Bo Horvat is certainly not a loser

and here comes the Devils fan

21 déc. 2022 à 17 h 15

#16

GeneralLandro

Rejoint: juin 2021

Messages: 15,704

Mentions "j'aime": 12,086

1. Verbeek isn’t trading a prospect he just traded for

2. Verbeek holds out for a 2023 1st imo

21 déc. 2022 à 17 h 47

#17

jet11567

Rejoint: mars 2021

Messages: 3,017

Mentions "j'aime": 1,265

Quoting: Gmonwy

Calgary just extended vladar not long ago I highly doubt the move on

22 déc. 2022 à 2 h 11

#18

Tintin

do not Devil my ass

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 4,908

Mentions "j'aime": 4,268

Quoting: justaBoss

and here comes the Devils fan

check again mr boos

justaBoss a aimé ceci.

Répondre

Page 1 de 1

PARAMÈTRES D’AFFICHAGE

COTES DES PARIS

LANGUE

ARCHIVES

CBA

CALCS

OUTILS - FANTASY HOCKEY

OUTILS

JOUEURS

CONFÉRENCE DE L'OUEST

CONFÉRENCE DE L'EST

OUTILS INTERACTIFS

Forums/Armchair-GM