8 nov 2018
Deuxième équipe préférée
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Your entire argument is premised on the false theory that there is a significant difference between #6 and #9. There isn't. Who among Holtz, Lundell, Perfetti and Rossi turns out the best is a crapshoot.
"Dumba doesn't help this team moving forward as much as Liljegren and #44"? Liljegren and the #44 won't help this season and may not help in 2021-2022, either, while Dumba is an upgrade on Manson both years. Plus we then get a third year of Dumba, who will be only 29 at the end of that season.
If people attached the word "speculative" to the word "futures," more people would have a better idea of their true value.</div></div>
You're implying I assume that its a guarantee that Lily and 44 turn out to be impact players, which I dont, but thier current value, along with 6 could be better spent than whats here if we did move them, for example I would much rather move Manson and 6 for Nylander and Liljegren. That package to me is more valuable than Dumba and 9.
I stand by that quote, their value doesnt need to come from what they themselves bring, but we could utilize those assets and move up in the draft. Yes Dumba is an upgrade on Manson, but not significant enough to sway the Ducks too far from what they currently are.
Yes the draft difference between 6 & 9 to ANA isnt alot, but if we move 6 it could be better spent elsewhere, and Manson could be better moved elsewhere as well.
Dumba should be one of the last player ANA looks at acquiring, especially at this cost, where we could move the above assets for a much more impactful package
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I disagree. Dumba plus #9 is worth more to me than Liljegren plus #6 plus #44. I put a higher value on Dumba than you do because I think that he's a proven (and immediate) value whereas neither Liljegren nor the #44 is. I think that a very important but highly overlooked element of a successful rebuild is better results each succeeding year. Conversely, I'm NOT a big believer in the "let's throw this year away because we won't be a contender this season" theory, which going with a right side of Gudbranson, Liljegren and whoever else we can cobble together would pretty much guarantee.</div></div>
If we move six it would be better used in going after a Nylander type player, Why would we downgrade the quality of prospect we get, when what we need is quality. Yes one of Rossi, Holtz, Perfetti would be there but why would we not take the one we want instead of the one we get.
Dumba doesnt help this team moving forward as much as Liljegren and 44, I fully believe that and 6 holds much more value than Dumba. acquiring Dumba would be like putting duct tape on a hole of a sinking boat, it'll help for a while, but still sink in the long run, Manson should be moved for futures, not with a extremely valuable future for a win now piece, yes Dumba isnt old by any means but the Ducks would be better off acquiring younger pieces