I'm assuming you realize most of these get laughed out of the building. Carolina isn't going to trade either of those players for a rental Horvat straight up, yet you want both. There's no reason for anyone to trade for Dubois when everyone knows he wants to go to Montreal. That's way too much for Boeser etc etc.

Not my idea https://youtu.be/Hfci3z0w6V0?t=524

Well they’re all still awful trades. Pettersson is worth more than PLD alone and we’re giving up 2 more 1st round picks? Laughable.

And no way should we take on KK contract. Don’t need a younger Jay Beagle for 7 more years at that cap hit. And don’t think Canes would trade Pesce, that just leaves a huge hole on their back end

Pettersson in the trade is not worth more than PLD.

If Carolina made this trade, you could easily resign Horvat and he's definitely better than KK.

Lol yes he certainly is. PLD being a UFA and Pettersson still under contract. If PLD had the same contract as Pettersson I’d MAYBE give a slight edge to PLD but it’s almost a wash. Don’t kid yourself

CHI absolutely declines.

Not as a 3C, which is what he'd be. KK is better defensively, FAR younger, and under team control. Plus, the Canes can't "easily re-sign Horvat". Look at who is expiring next summer. They can't sign anyone long term right now because of the purging of the roster that is going to happen next summer. Plus, Pesce still straight up holds more value.

Pettersson doesn't even have a contract. Also the Jets don't need LD and I have no idea how you think a random third round pick from last year's draft has more value than a point per game centre. You might need to reevaluate the trade.

You should be really careful getting your ideas from YouTube…plenty of lives and families have been ruined going down that path.

Hahahaha omfg I didn’t even realize which Pettersson it was. My bad.

Lol

Pesce is an above average 2nd pair defenceman he's really not that special.

Swap Elias Pettersson for Elias Pettersson and we got a deal.

This is astoundingly wrong, he's not only playing on the pair in Carolina that often gets more minutes, he's the best RD in the NHL in his own zone. He's got better underlyings than ao much of the league and can play all situations. You think he's just a 2nd pair RD? Please go and watch some Canes games before you reply to this. That's an AWFUL take.

Bettman should refuse to allow Vancouver to trade Elias Pettersson the Younger's rights. You made this bed, you have to lie in it for at least part of a season so we can all laugh at how ridiculous it all is.

He's on a team that massively boosts underlying numbers by dominating the shot share and playing a strong team defensive system. He's loved by Cane fans but he's really not that special of a player. Slavin is without a doubt your best defenceman and he's way better than Pesce. Better defensively without question. Pesce is so overrated.

Shot sharing would boost his offensive numbers, fair point. Not his defensive ones. Pesce is the best defensive defenseman the Canes have, without question better than Slavin. Slavin makes a ton of highlight defensive plays because he has to. Pesce is never put in a position where he's forced to make those kinds of plays because he can deal with it conventionally. Slavin needs to flex his speed a lot more but Pesce is a better defender. It's Slavin's speed that lets him cover up for his partner, but Pesce is genuinely worse to try and get through.

That makes no sense at all. But I expected as much. Slavin is a top defenceman. Pesce is good nothing special.

Brett Pesce is special, we are all special - snowflakes really. It’s not very kind of you to say those types of things about another human being.

He’s the best 2nd pairing RHD in the league, a critical part of a good shutdown pairing with Skjei, critical on the PK, and there would be no reason for the Canes to trade him. Exactly as your comments demonstrate…his value to the construction of our team outweighs the value you would get in a trade. The moment you trade him - you’re looking to replace him.

He's a good player but that's it. And there is nothing wrong with that. Fans always want their players to be the best and overvalue them. Pesce isn't all that hard to replace. Hell put Holl in your system and I bet you'd be surprised how good he is.

Watch a Canes game

I have, he's fine. Does nothing spectacular but is solid. That definitely is good to have but he's not in anyway elite.

Yeah, elite wouldn’t be the word to use, he’s a defensive defenseman. He and Slavin create a huge advantage in our top 4, and it’s why he wouldn’t be traded.

The one thing you’re saying that I do not agree with - he’d be easy to replace. Having a guy like Pesce at $4m who solidifies your 2nd pair isn’t easy to replace. You’re searching for it the moment you trade it…in this scenario, Schenn isn’t that dude…he’s a 3rd pairing guy for our team. BTW - I’m team Horvat/Schenn would be good adds for the Canes…just not Pesce.

When you’re in a championship window, you don’t make holes in your dam you have to plug…you plug the holes you already have. Trading Pesce would be like adding a leak you don’t need.

Damn, I forgot just how bat**** crazy Graviteh is. The fact that he gets payed to make bs up on the fly is crazy.