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Just a ton of picks tell me which trades are reasonable

Créé par: bogdown
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2022
Publié: 2 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Canucks have lacked a foundation to construct a sturdy house on for years. The core is weak, there is no buy-in to the system, and no energy on the team anymore. It's time for a proper rebuild executed by a new management group and a new coaching staff. Boudreau doesn't deserve this Travis Green treatment and Alvin and Rutherford have no clue what they are doing behind the helm.
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3950 000 $
Dragecevic, Lukas
3950 000 $
Allen, Cameron
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Ceulemans, Corson [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
2.
VAN
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (STL)
3.
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Myers, Tyler (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
5.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
6.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
7.
VAN
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
8.
VAN
SJS
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
9.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de TOR
Logo de NYI
Logo de VAN
Logo de CBJ
Logo de NYI
Logo de VAN
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de VAN
Logo de OTT
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de EDM
Logo de CBJ
Logo de MIN
Logo de WPG
Logo de VAN
Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1982 500 000 $50 578 750 $1 250 000 $1 232 500 $31 921 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
855 833 $855 833 $
AD
RFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 30
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No trade with Columbus is reasonable.
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2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 34
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Hughes trade is horrendous. Just horrific
2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 45
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Quoting: Juiceman
Hughes trade is horrendous. Just horrific

I agree but I want to see what Islanders fans think. I think that you could fetch two firsts and a prospect for him.
2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 50
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Quoting: bogdown
I agree but I want to see what Islanders fans think. I think that you could fetch two firsts and a prospect for him.


Hughes is untouchable. He is the player you rebuild around
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2 déc. 2022 à 1 h 50
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Columbus isn’t moving that much for a rental, adding Horvat won’t pull them out of being a bottom 5 team in the league this season. Columbus is lower in the standings than Vancouver is, they aren’t trading futures for a rental. Especially a player the GM drafted earlier then he was projected to go because he liked him so much.
2 déc. 2022 à 2 h 5
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Blues say no thanks
2 déc. 2022 à 7 h 7
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Ottawa is not giving you a draft pick for someone on LTIR.

Try again.
2 déc. 2022 à 7 h 58
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9 trades in a Vancouver post and no Canes? Bravo!
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2 déc. 2022 à 8 h 0
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Not just you, but all Canucks fans:

Stop trading Myers to Toronto and Horvat to Columbus.

Myers has negative value and none of your trades include a sweetner. And Columbus is at the bottom of the standings. Why on earth would they spend to get a UFA? They're better off keeping their assets and going after a center in free agency or at the draft.
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2 déc. 2022 à 8 h 8
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Good deal for WPG, I bet you could get a prospect out of them along with a 2nd rounder as well.
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2 déc. 2022 à 8 h 28
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Wild can’t afford Boeser’s contract.
2 déc. 2022 à 9 h 19
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None of them. No appreciation of other teams caps or needs.
2 déc. 2022 à 9 h 54
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Minnesota isn't taking on Boeser
2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Columbus isn’t moving that much for a rental, adding Horvat won’t pull them out of being a bottom 5 team in the league this season. Columbus is lower in the standings than Vancouver is, they aren’t trading futures for a rental. Especially a player the GM drafted earlier then he was projected to go because he liked him so much.

Counterpoint - if we think we can get Horvat to extend at a sweetheart deal, that proposal becomes viable.

Admittedly, after seeing the HIntz extension, that's probably even more of a pipedream than it was before, but still.
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2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 13
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I don't see the blues trading for Miller at all. If they are selling ROR it will be for picks and prospects
2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 46
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Counterpoint - if we think we can get Horvat to extend at a sweetheart deal, that proposal becomes viable.

Admittedly, after seeing the HIntz extension, that's probably even more of a pipedream than it was before, but still.


And honestly I’d be very hard pressed to move Cuelamens, dude looks legit, I see him as the 2nd pair RHD of the future but could also be top pair depending on how chemistry works with Werenski and Mateychuk on the left side.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: Caniac555
9 trades in a Vancouver post and no Canes? Bravo!


Don’t see a reasonable trade with the Canes. Canes need wingers, not Horvat. Plus the Canucks would want Morrow and including him in a trade is unrealistic.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 41
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And honestly I’d be very hard pressed to move Cuelamens, dude looks legit, I see him as the 2nd pair RHD of the future but could also be top pair depending on how chemistry works with Werenski and Mateychuk on the left side.


If Horvat signs an extension in Columbus, would you trade Horvat straight up for Ceulemans?
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 45
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None of them. No appreciation of other teams caps or needs.


Islanders need a LHD, Winnipeg needs wingers, Edmonton gets two guys, both under two million. Don’t see your argument here expect for Boeser and maybe Horvat.
2 déc. 2022 à 12 h 30
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If Horvat signs an extension in Columbus, would you trade Horvat straight up for Ceulemans?


It would depend on the extension, if it were around 7 mil then I’d consider it, but after seeing the Hintz contract I don’t see Horvat coming in under 8 and I don’t think Columbus can afford that without paying someone to take Voracek.
2 déc. 2022 à 12 h 48
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It would depend on the extension, if it were around 7 mil then I’d consider it, but after seeing the Hintz contract I don’t see Horvat coming in under 8 and I don’t think Columbus can afford that without paying someone to take Voracek.


Canucks take Voracek for two seconds:

To CBJ:
Bo Horvat
(Extension in place 8x8)

To VAN:
Jakub Voracek
Corson Ceulemens
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2024 2nd round pick
2 déc. 2022 à 12 h 53
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Quoting: Juiceman
Hughes is untouchable. He is the player you rebuild around


Hughes is certainly not untouchable. He is nowhere close to where Makar is in terms of development and is certainly not strong enough on the puck. He got demolished last night and will continue to get demolished if he doesn't bulk up. He's also not very effective on PP1 quarterbacking. He has a fluttery, weak shot that never gets through and he doesn't have the pace to really dish the puck out, especially for the Pettersson one timer. Sure his edge work might be silky smooth, but he's overrated by Canucks fans.
2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 16
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Canucks take Voracek for two seconds:

To CBJ:
Bo Horvat
(Extension in place 8x8)

To VAN:
Jakub Voracek
Corson Ceulemens
2023 2nd round pick
2024 2nd round pick


No, that’s part of why I don’t want to add Horvat, I don’t want to pay extra to move someone else.

If Columbus were a contender Horvat would be a great add for them, but since they aren’t Vancouver fans need to realize Columbus isn’t in a position to be moving out rebuilding assets like top prospects and draft selections.
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