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Avs next season with goalie upgrade

Créé par: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2022
Publié: 15 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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11 000 000 $
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22 950 000 $
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  1. Saros, Juuse
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The Preds will very likely be forced into a rebuild/retool to get younger this season. Slim chance of playoffs with an aging roster. Moving one of the leagues best goalies for a surplus of young talent is exactly what they need to do, since Askarov is coming up.

And before anyone says this is too much for Saros, he is a top 5 goalie in the NHL in his prime. He is worth a lot.
NSH
  1. Byram, Bowen [Droits de RFA]
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Ranta, Sampo [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Georgiev provides the short term 1A help for Askarov



This is at 2023 draft, the 2023 first rounder is 32nd overall
The 2024 first is top 10 protected
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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 2
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that is so much for such a volatile position; not sure I would pay that for Shesterkin
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I don't mean to come off hard, but you seriously need a strait jacket if you think they will give up Sorrows... let alone for that package! He is pretty legitimately a top 5 goalie in the league, young, and on a good contract! C'mon, man!!!
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 3
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I don't mean to come off hard, but you seriously need a strait jacket if you think they will give up Sorrows... let alone for that package! He is pretty legitimately a top 5 goalie in the league, young, and on a good contract! C'mon, man!!!


bro its a massive package for the least valuable position not to mention they have a superstar goalie coming up
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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 5
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bro its a massive package for the least valuable position not to mention they have a superstar goalie coming up


... "least valuable position"??? What???
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 5
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Wow is that an overpay for Saros ooof
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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 9
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Massive overpay
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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: NoWah49
that is so much for such a volatile position; not sure I would pay that for Shesterkin


Quoting: mvp13
I don't mean to come off hard, but you seriously need a strait jacket if you think they will give up Sorrows... let alone for that package! He is pretty legitimately a top 5 goalie in the league, young, and on a good contract! C'mon, man!!!


Quoting: Richard88
Wow is that an overpay for Saros ooof


I love how I have people who are on both sides of this deal.

-Preds have an elite goalie coming up
-Byram has health concerns
- Avs are trying to contend now, they went all in for Kuemper and it paid off. Saros is better and has an extra year of term
- Preds are not going to be good this year. Likely very average
- Having an elite goalie is very valuable, look at how much Shesterkin carried the Rangers this season, if he wasnt so exhausted from carrying them they likely wouldve beaten Tampa
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 12
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I love how I have people who are on both sides of this deal.

-Preds have an elite goalie coming up
-Byram has health concerns
- Avs are trying to contend now, they went all in for Kuemper and it paid off. Saros is better and has an extra year of term
- Preds are not going to be good this year. Likely very average
- Having an elite goalie is very valuable, look at how much Shesterkin carried the Rangers this season, if he wasnt so exhausted from carrying them they likely wouldve beaten Tampa


Sorrows is proven. Nobody knows what Askarov will do. They'd be literally stupid to do that, when the main piece coming back has "health concerns"... I really can't believe all the other comments, though. This place makes me wonder sometimes...
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 15
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bro its a massive package for the least valuable position not to mention they have a superstar goalie coming up


You must not watch many hockey games
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Uh… deal.
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 32
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You must not watch many hockey games

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... "least valuable position"??? What???



nobody pays that package for any goalie but if its for a star dman or forward it would be accepted in a heartbeat
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 32
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Quoting: Richard88
Wow is that an overpay for Saros ooof


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Massive overpay


for a top 3 goalie in the league making only 5m? Doubt.
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
I love how I have people who are on both sides of this deal.

-Preds have an elite goalie coming up
-Byram has health concerns
- Avs are trying to contend now, they went all in for Kuemper and it paid off. Saros is better and has an extra year of term
- Preds are not going to be good this year. Likely very average
- Having an elite goalie is very valuable, look at how much Shesterkin carried the Rangers this season, if he wasnt so exhausted from carrying them they likely wouldve beaten Tampa


Avs don't need more than league average goaltending, and certainly aren't paying Byram + 2 1sts to upgrade from a mid-tier starter to a top 5-10 goalie, not even close to worth it.
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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 37
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bro its a massive package for the least valuable position not to mention they have a superstar goalie coming up


Without vasy TB doesn't win back to back cups should have been back to back Con Smythe winner. How on earth do you say the one position that can single handedly not allow you to loose a game is the "least valuable"? Please provide a rational explanation for that statement
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Avs don't need more than league average goaltending, and certainly aren't paying Byram + 2 1sts to upgrade from a mid-tier starter to a top 5-10 goalie, not even close to worth it.


I don't disagree with you about it being an overpay, but you can't really call Georgiev a "mid-tier starter" when he's never been a starter in his career thus far-- and he's only been an OK backup.
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 44
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I don't disagree with you about it being an overpay, but you can't really call Georgiev a "mid-tier starter" when he's never been a starter in his career thus far-- and he's only been an OK backup.


Fair point. I guess that's the expectation anyhow. Even if he's just league average or maybe even slightly below average that's ok. Avs have the best D in the league and a strong forward group. Definitely not moving Byram for an upgrade in net.
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Without vasy TB doesn't win back to back cups should have been back to back Con Smythe winner. How on earth do you say the one position that can single handedly not allow you to loose a game is the "least valuable"? Please provide a rational explanation for that statement


least valuable in trades not in game. you will never see a deal like this for a goalie not even superstar goalies like saros
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 46
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Fair point. I guess that's the expectation anyhow. Even if he's just league average or maybe even slightly below average that's ok. Avs have the best D in the league and a strong forward group. Definitely not moving Byram for an upgrade in net.


In reality, I don't see the Avs moving Georgiev even if he's bad. If he's good, then why move him. And if he's bad, then no team is gonna want to take him at that cap/term (you can always pay in a trade, but the Avs don't really have those assets right now). For better or worse, he's probably the Avs starter for the next 2 seasons at least. I think he'll be fine, but it will be a downgrade from what they had last season.
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In reality, I don't see the Avs moving Georgiev even if he's bad. If he's good, then why move him. And if he's bad, then no team is gonna want to take him at that cap/term (you can always pay in a trade, but the Avs don't really have those assets right now). For better or worse, he's probably the Avs starter for the next 2 seasons at least. I think he'll be fine, but it will be a downgrade from what they had last season.


There are always teams in need of goaltending, so I less he's extremely terrible it wouldn't be hard to find a taker. Even Matt Murray got moved at a higher caphit.
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for a top 3 goalie in the league making only 5m? Doubt.


Literally Shesterkin. Making 5,6.
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 51
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There are always teams in need of goaltending, so I less he's extremely terrible it wouldn't be hard to find a taker. Even Matt Murray got moved at a higher caphit.


I thought they had to send a 1st with Murray, but just a 3rd + 7th and a bit of retention... wow, anything's possible lol
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There are always teams in need of goaltending, so I less he's extremely terrible it wouldn't be hard to find a taker. Even Matt Murray got moved at a higher caphit.


I think dumped is the more accurate word.
15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 55
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I don't think Saros would be a good fit on the Avs. The biggest problem for Avs goaltending is the mental game of not letting your focus drop because you are so bored back there, and the few times I watched the Preds pull the same kind of performance where they almost never let the other team into their own zone Saros was absolutely pedestrian in net those nights. Dude is a monster when under pressure but his focus tends to drift when he only sees 15-20 shots a night.

If there was a contending team that could bring the best in Saros out, its the Leafs.

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I thought they had to send a 1st with Murray, but just a 3rd + 7th and a bit of retention... wow, anything's possible lol


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15 sept. 2022 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: Richard88
Avs don't need more than league average goaltending, and certainly aren't paying Byram + 2 1sts to upgrade from a mid-tier starter to a top 5-10 goalie, not even close to worth it.


Saros is a top 5 goalie, was the 2nd best this past season. The two first are late firsts. Avs also dont need Byram. Behrens will be an incredible LD and will slot in perfectly as a 2LD. You will have the cap for Toews if you want (might have to move Girard but itll work out). Byram is not worth holding onto as he is only losing value. He may be great, but to get two years of top 5 goaltending is worth it IMO. Again, we will see. If it makes you feel better then remove one of the firsts
15 sept. 2022 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
Saros is a top 5 goalie, was the 2nd best this past season. The two first are late firsts. Avs also dont need Byram. Behrens will be an incredible LD and will slot in perfectly as a 2LD. You will have the cap for Toews if you want (might have to move Girard but itll work out). Byram is not worth holding onto as he is only losing value. He may be great, but to get two years of top 5 goaltending is worth it IMO. Again, we will see. If it makes you feel better then remove one of the firsts


saying Byram is expendable bc of Behrens is mind bogging, I dont think you erally understand how good Byram is

how is the world is he losing value, he was one of the avs best Dman in the playoffs, which includes Makar and Toews, he is a stud on the rise, dude did you miss the entire playoffs?
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