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coga16

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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures
Sujet: Offseason Reshape
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>Lol. Sorry not gonna debate with biasness.</div></div>

Data and stats are not biased, not my fault you are choosing to over look them bc you think your idea of a romantic reunion of Doruin and mackInnon Junior line mates is a good idea

Bura
2021 - p/60 All Situations 3.223.....p/6 5v5 2.522.....avg TOI 15:02
2020 - p/60 All Situations 3.062 .....p/6 5v5 2.745 ....avg TOI 15:12

Drouin
2021 - p/60 All Situations 1.949.....p/6 5v5 1.780.....avg TOI 16:05
2020 - p/60 All Situations 2.123 .....p/6 5v5 1.841 ....avg TOI 15:42

Bura
2021 - CF% 58.9.....CF% Rel 0.4.....FF% 56.9.....FF Rel -1.7
2020 - CF% 53.0.....CF% Rel 2.3.....FF% 51.5.....FF Rel 0.6

Drouin
2021 - CF% 53..6.....CF% Rel -1.3.....FF% 53.0.....FF Rel -1.4
2020 - CF% 52.9.....CF% Rel -0.2.....FF% 52.2.....FF Rel -1.4

Explain to me how data backed up statements are bias? And Bura does this away from MacKinnon. So what is Drouin gong to do...take Landeskogs or Rantanens spot to play with Mack...like come on man
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures
Sujet: Offseason Reshape
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>Burakovsky, maybe. Colorado could see Drouin's potential to reunite with MacKinnon as more valuable. Don't argue that Drouin's ceiling isn't higher than Burakovaky's, because you'd be spitting BS if you did. As for Landeskog, makes all the sense in the world to protect Drouin instead. Landeskog is a pending UFA. All Colorado has to do is have a handshake contract agreement with him in place before the expansion draft, then expose him (Seattle likely won't take him being a pending UFA) and then the Ava sign him after. If Seattle did take him, Landeskog just doesn't sign in Seattle because he wants to be on a contender then he hits UFA and signs back in Colorado. Then the Ava have both of Drouin and Landeskog. It's just just more logical.</div></div>

no one cares about Drouin and Mackinnon being line mates 8 years ago
And burakovsky is better defensively and has produced more offence in a reduced role that Drouin ha in Montreal. There isnt any BS spitting here, it straight numbers and facts. Data doesnt lie

Avs are not letting their captain and best 2 way forward going to open market by allowing seattle to talk to him by not protecting him. What you are talking about is fantays land stuff and not how NHL teams that are competent operate

Seriously dude there is 0 logic applied in this trade. So avs lose Bura and pay a 1st rounder to get a worse replacement in drouin. That would be a train wreck of moves
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures
Sujet: Crazy Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Freshfitted69</b></div><div>Yeah, you're right. But there are some things you haven't taken into account. Some of those deals were signed pre-covid, when it was assumed that the cap would still be going up. Just because mediocre or even star players got lucrative deals in previous years, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be getting the same type of money this time around. The market has changed.

Also, I'd say the hype train was bigger on Binnington and Markstrom than Grubauer, who has been injury prone.

If Frankie is going to be healthy, you don't have to sign Johansson to that one-way nhl deal.

And sometimes, if you can't fit a guy under the cap, like say Jost for example, you have to trade him away. Think like the Kapanen deal... In reality, you're right.... this is too much to sacrifice just to get another star centre on the team, but I wouldn't say it CANT be done. After all, only a Sith deals in absolutes :)</div></div>

What are you talking about. There is no hype train, that is just a made up thing by you to justify underpaying what the market has set. Binnington and Markstrom signed their contracts Post Covid in the flat cap era, Gallagher signed his contract post covid and its 6.5m aav....Landy isnt 500k more than Gallagher, there is a clear difference bw the players....Landy has almost been a point per game player the last 3 season .Gallagher not even close to that sort of production or as good defensively as Landy

I think you might have not taking into account the post covid contracts and low balled the avs values. I would love to see them sign those but it aint happening, have to be realistic here. Stars still get paid
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 21 heures
Sujet: Crazy Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Freshfitted69</b></div><div>Coga, you're most likely right... I don't think this is a wise deal, but it's fun to dream.

However, I don't think 7 mill for Landeskog is much of an underpayment, and Makar might be okay with a team-friendly 8 mill, cuz some avs players have taken slightly team friendly deals in the past and I'm sure he'd like to build a winner in Denver.

EJ and Kadri both come off the books before MacKinnon needs to sign a new deal.

Trading for Eichel WOULD decimate the Avs but the point of this Armchair GM is to show that with a little creativity you COULD keep Landy, Mack, Makar, Rants and ADD EICHEL.... you'd just have to fill out the rest of your roster with bargain bin players.... (But you know what, this strategy has kind of worked in Toronto... they've added lots of bargain contracts like Simmonds to fill out their very top heavy roster, so it can be done)</div></div>

Landy will get closer to 8, Makar will get closer to 9 even 9+ and Grubauer will get 6m (look at Binnington and Markstron recent 6x6 deals). Jost will get 2m-2.5m x 2 like Nuke
That is 3m of underpaying plus throwing Frankie on LTIR which he is not out next year. That is 5m to apply to the cap

It doesnt Work in reality
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures
Sujet: Scrap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>God8069</b></div><div>I mean fair enough, I stand corrected. Olofsson can be an effective top 6 forward, his 5 on 5 game can be elite if played in the right situation. Only part I can disagree with there, rest are all fair points</div></div>

Avs make up for the top 9 next year is

Landeskog MacKinnon Rantanen
Kadri Newhook Burakovsky
Nichushkin Jost Donskoi/Compher (1 of these guys could be picked in the XD)

as a middle 6er Olofsson would be a good add but Cap wise avs cant take him on for futures, and moving money in and money out at the cost of a 1st and Timmins doesnt make much sense either.

Olofsson is just a version of Donskoi that Avs already have to play in the middle 6. Nice to have but Dont have to actively shop for those guys

In a vaccum by itself the move doesnt make much sense, but could later on depending on XD results and the cost to extend Landeskog Makar and Grubauer
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures
Sujet: Scrap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>God8069</b></div><div>Fair enough, saw a different Avs fan make a deal involving Olofsson, understand cap + price, but do think the ideology of just Olofsson in Colorado would work very well. Avs fan gave up more, and took less off that using it as a reference</div></div>

wasnt an avs fan, it was a bluejackets fan BDAWWWGY1. which wasnt a good trade for the avs as Olofsson would be a 3rd liner...so avs spend a 1st Timmins to move a 3rd liner who can play C in compher for another 3rd liner in Olofsson and not gain any cap relief? Doesnt help the avs at all, just makes them worse removing a valuable piece in timmins from the blue line that they have to replace in this trade,

and in your trade taking Olofsson straight up cap, avs cant afford that