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Armchair-GM
mer. à 23 h 41
Sujet:
Moving back twice
Can't see the Avs swapping Colton for Buch; doesn't make sense at all.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 23 h 40
Sujet:
Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cub19</b></div><div>Yeah I think so to. Haven't heard much of his name lately except concussion spotter pulling him.
If landeskog comes back next year you def know someone or even 2 are getting traded</div></div>
My biggest question with Landy is: when will the determination be made? To say nothing of the massive disappointment and sadness seeing Landy retire well before his time would engender, I am led to wonder: Are they going to go into FA knowing if he's coming back or is it really going to be a matter of waiting until at least pre-season?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 21 h 0
Sujet:
Retool
I think they'll let Walker go
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 9 h 26
Sujet:
Leafs fans need to chill
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Novistic</b></div><div>jarnkrok for colton is wild.
i'm not really a huge colton fan, but that's mostly because of his attitude and such. his on-ice performance is generally good and not worth moving him.
and if we needed the cap space, I imagine someone like girard or mansion is going before he is</div></div>
You're going to have to explain the "attitude" thing because I've never, ever heard anything negative about Colton in that respect. While you're at it, specify what "and such" means.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 19 h 10
Sujet:
Vegas Deal
I imagine Vegas would rather send Hill than Thompson; they're going to be in a major cap crunch and I doubt they'd send Barbie but maybe.
The Colton trade would have to include a 2nd; the Avs are going to be more interested in draft capital (to use in trades) than in a prospect, even a decent one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 12 h 7
Sujet:
Flyers Avs 3C Swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Have to remember it was Colton's RFA rights for that 37th pick as a guy who'd played primarily wing, not a signed Colton after (what looks likely to be) a career year whilst playing C and also have to factor in his being 2 years younger than Laughton. The Avs probably have to consider it though if it comes with a sweetener.</div></div>
I'd say the sweetener is the retention and I'd go for it if Colton is the odd man out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 23 h 20
Sujet:
survive the squeeze
Rather than doing all of that to get Evans, a guy that isn't a 3C, I'd try to find someone who needs to bounce back, like Wennberg or Roslovic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 avr. à 23 h 13
Sujet:
Better but still bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>I know you're big on G but that list is definitely tradeable. All of them for different reasons. They simply won't be just giving any of them away regardless of needing the cap space.</div></div>
Exactly my point: if he's lower on the list of guys they'd consider trading, it's going to cost a lot.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 avr. à 19 h 45
Sujet:
if Landeskog comes back
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zk97</b></div><div>He's the easiest guy to trade if Landeskog comes back. </div></div>
You're right: he would be easy to trade and would return a lot. He would also be the hardest to replace so it doesn't make sense for the Avs to do that. There are at least 4 players they'd trade before they'd trade Lehky which means they won't be doing that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 avr. à 19 h 42
Sujet:
Better but still bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>The Avs won't just be giving Girard away.</div></div>
I still think he's no higher up the list than 4th for possible trades:
1. Manson
2. Wood
3. Colton
4. Girard
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 avr. à 20 h 24
Sujet:
Detroit Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Ross Colton has a full no trade clause starting July 1 and I doubt he waives it to leave a cup contender for a team like Detroit</div></div>
Not that the Avs would be interested in this deal but they can always trade him before the NTC kicks in. I could see them trading him if they need more cap space and they can find an acceptable replacement; this isn't it but it's not inconceivable they move him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 avr. à 9 h 7
Sujet:
Trade landy
Landy declines
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 avr. à 13 h 27
Sujet:
Looking to fill 1RW and 1RD
If the Avs do decide to trade Colton, it's likely to be for picks; a young D won't make it onto the Avs roster at this point.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 avr. à 8 h 20
Sujet:
pushing wildcard
If I'm the Avs, I do that to get the extra assets and a cheap, bottom-six player that can score a little. I would like one of those 2nds to be next years, though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 21 h 22
Sujet:
How about this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>I really want Landy back but watching him skate after being out 2 years (I know the second surgery) he looks a long way away</div></div>
The big question is: will he know if he's going to give it a go before or after UFA begins? I mean, is he really going to wait to try at the start of next season or will he know before then if it's a go or not?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 18 h 48
Sujet:
Gabe comes back 2
Personally, I think they'd be better off going for a more proven C that has at least some history of greater production, someone like Wennberg. I like Yak but I'm not sure he's capable of more and I don't think he's played much C at the pro level.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 18 h 45
Sujet:
Projecting 2024-25
Also plausible. The names may be different but the salary allocations would be similar.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 18 h 42
Sujet:
How about this
I think this is plausible assuming Mitts accepts that sort of deal (which, I know a few people will come in hot with, "NUH-UH! nO ChaNCe hE taKEs tHaT dEaL!" but there would be advantages to it from both parties and we have no way of knowing what both sides are looking for). Not sure Jones is the guy but anyone that can play 3rd pair minutes reasonably well, especially defensively, would be fine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 16 h 6
Sujet:
Summer dreaming I know its a long stretch
While I appreciate the concern for the Avs cap situation, they traded for Mitts specifically for him to fill the gap at 2C moving forward; no chance they trade him for pieces they don't really need. They may have to move other players to flesh out the roster but they plan on having Mitts in the fold for the foreseeable future.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 15 h 55
Sujet:
offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Avs maybe down for this, Krebs wouldnt be a fit but could be flipped in a larger deal. I've liked Wood but it might have been too expensive for too long. I will hold judgement until the offseason</div></div>
Nothing against Wood but I would think just unloading the contract would be welcome even if they don't really want Krebs. Would free up the space to re-sign Duhaime and another bottom-six guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 avr. à 15 h 53
Sujet:
CGY Blockbuster
I can't see anyone touching Norris' contract considering all his injuries. The only way it becomes tradable is if he LTIRetires; just too risky.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 avr. à 19 h 19
Sujet:
Mittelstadt Comps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>1st the pens aren't going to waste 4 mil on Colton. You probably going to have to dish that off to a team looking to hit cap floor like SJS or CHI.
I think you are aiming low on the contract.
as for comparable it's kind of all over here. Given not all are 2 C.
Frost went at 2.1 after a 46 point year.
Zegras went at 5.75 after a 65 point year.
Newhook 2.9 after a 30 point year.
Chytil got 4.4 for a 45 point year.
It all depends if you are going to get a RFA discount or not, it's not always the case. When it's not you are looking at 100k a point. Sometimes a bump for playing center.
If it's not slightly less. But the cap is also going to rise for the first time in years.
My guess is he hits 60+ points. I don't think he has any loyalty to Col having just been traded there. If he was going to sign for a discount maybe he'd still be in BUF?
Low end 6 mil, 5.75 average on some comparable + a bump for the cap going up. You are aiming not taking into account the cap increase.
High end, 6.5 to 7 The roughly 100k a point mark, slight bump on the center role.
I also think you are either going to have to add or subtract years here.
No way he signs 6 years. He's 26 next year. That puts him out at 31. Wrong side of 30. You are probably looking at a short bet on himself deal of 2-3 years at a lower cap hit, aka the 6 mil range. Or an 8 year deal. Paval and Zegs took short deals 3 and 4 years. Which is why the cap hit is lower. If you want 6 years the answer is probably no, they will push to 7 or 8 and then want premium. AKA 100k a point.
Most likely 3 year deal, 6 mil, the Zegs contract + a bump for the cap rise. They become FA at 28 and then sign a 7 year deal probably the best way to max his money as he gets his highest contract to 35.</div></div>
I appreciate the thoughtful reply. I do think it's somewhat likely they go shorter-term, something like 3 years. He might make it to 60 points but that's probably going to be it. It could depend on if he wants to bet on himself to pump up his value for a bigger payday down the road or is he going to try to get more guaranteed money now? That's something we can't know. The comps you presented are somewhat relevant but none of them are as close as Zacha and Strome in terms of age, expiry and performance. That being said, I'm sure Mitts' agent will bring up Zegras as a comp simply due to the similarities in production.
My opinion is the "If he were going to take a discount, he'd have stayed in Buffalo" narrative is a red herring. He was, essentially, the odd man out. They have their top two C's that they're paying big bucks and Dahlin's new deal kicks in next season. Mitts started performing and got his value up. They looked around and figured they couldn't spend big money on another older (relatively speaking) player when they've got younger guys to bring in and, sooner rather than later, pay. And if they have designs on trying to lure an big-time UFA's eventually, they're going to need that space. The Avs gave them an offer they couldn't refuse, so they took it. Plus, he just moved from an also-ran to a real contender which can induce guys to take discounts; winning makes some people think differently about money. In that case, he might agree to something like 6-7 years at $5.5-5.75M with full trade protection up front (first three years) then shift to an M-NTC in the 4th year. That way, he gets his guaranteed money and stability for 3 years while the team get flexibility down the road.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 avr. à 17 h 24
Sujet:
Mittelstadt Comps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Fairish</div></div>
Who else you got as comps?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 avr. à 17 h 23
Sujet:
rants
Isn't it basically impossible for the cap to reach $100M in two years due to the limit on the maximum percentage it can rise? Isn't that why it's only going up $4M+ next season and then $5M+ the following season? I guess they could amend the CBA or come up with a new one before the old one expires but I am under the apprehension that under the current CBA, they can't just make that jump even if HRR is in line with such a raise.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 avr. à 18 h 50
Sujet:
Caufield
I'm all for there being two Sebastian Aho's on the same team. Why is Staal waiving to go back to Pitt? And why is Montreal trading Caufield?
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