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Richard88

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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 minutes
Sujet: EICHEL 4-WAY BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>So Girard, Newhook, Compher, Beaucage and a 1st for a guy with a neck issue and even with retention a massive cap hit. Then $25M to sign a starting goalie, 2 defenseman, and 4 forwards all while knowing a MacKinnon extension is priority 1 in the off season. The Avs aren’t acquiring a big long term contract this season no matter what?</div></div>

Mackinnon's extension will be covered by EJ's money coming off the books.

$25m is easily enough to sign Burakovsky (~$6m), Nichuskin (~$3.5m), and Kuemper (~$5.5m) and still have ~$10m left over for 2-3 depth forwards and a #6 Dman.

The concern about the neck is very valid however. I'm not suggesting it would be easy to swing this trade, but I think it's interesting to explore the parameters by which it could potentially work, given that Colorado were specifically mentioned by Friedman as being involved in discussions about Eichel.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 6 heures
Sujet: EICHEL 4-WAY BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>I would assume thats Lehky, too many fwds were just added either via traded or signed as Free Agents, dont think they move any guy they just signed/extended etc. I dont think they move Drouin bc that would probably be a bad look after everything he went through, hes back playing hockey and happy so let him be</div></div>

Lehkonen could be an interesting piece to include going to Colorado in a trade scenario like the one in this AGM. Avs would be down a couple of forwards if they moved Compher and Newhook, especially considering that Eichel will miss at least 4 months as well, so Lehkonen could be a cheaper Compher replacement, ideally with 50% retained.

The forward group would basically be this until Eichel returned:

Landeskog -- Mackinnon -- Rantanen
Nichuskin -------- Kadri ------ Burakovsky
Lehkonen --------- Jost -------- Ranta
Helm ------------ Maltsev ------ O'Connor

Maybe instead of Caufield they'd do something like 2022 1st + Lehkonen + prospect that Buffalo likes other than Caufield, and Lehkonen goes to Colorado with only the futures to Buffalo.

Anyways, this is becoming quite convoluted. Just thought it was an interesting idea as a way to move Girard somewhere without pissing him off by trading him directly to Buffalo.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 6 heures
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: EICHEL 4-WAY BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>Picks could be included with conditions to hedge potential vs current value. However, Montreal should not trade Caufield, and certainly not for a LHD.
A RHD that should develop into a top pairing guy is worth considering, as we have nobody lined up to replace Petry/Savard, but that should be achievable through other means. Moving another winger for a prospect with potential makes more sense. (Toffoli for a package, for example, similar to the Pacioretty trade and hope to get "lucky" again.)</div></div>

I was under the impression that Montreal's biggest need was a top-pairing LHD, considering all the Girard-to-Montreal trade proposals on here and the fact that Chiarot is your current 1LHD.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: EICHEL 4-WAY BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>there isnt a vast difference of 2 2nds attached in value, that is just some fantasy land valuing of girard, but I do think girard holds as much if not slightly more value today

and yes I agree value to the team in Caufield to montreal highly outweighs market trade price.
There is that unknown potential in his goal scoring ability that makes the idea of trading him unpalatable bc of the what if. but the opposite is true, what if he doesnt max out and hes just a decent scorer etc. Teams like trading for the known quality and right now Girard is a pretty known value, you know his floor at the NHL and its pretty damn good already

its a trade neither team makes and Richard is obsessed with these Eichel trades, taking a Friedman believe of Sakic doing his job and all NHL GMs jobs, call on a player who is available on a trade.</div></div>

I'm not obsessed with Eichel trades, I'm just curious what a deal could look like given that Friedman specifically mentioned Colorado. You're welcome to not comment if my 'obsessions' are too much for you to handle (though i do appreciate your insights) :)
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: EICHEL 4-WAY BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>habs fans not going to like this. id say take out a 2nd from the habs trade.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>First of all, that’s a trade with Montreal then a 3-way, not a 4 way trade, 2nd of all, Caufield had more value than Girard, no idea why we’re adding 2nd’s there</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Girard is a nice complimentary guy nut Caufield's potential makes him worth more. Habs arent the team adding here.

Would you trade Byram and 2 2nds for Girard?</div></div>

Thanks for your replies.

As mentioned in the description of the trade: "Not sure what Caufield's trade value is, but basically Buffalo pick some futures/assets from Montreal to the equivalent value of Girard.".

Maybe it's not Caufield + 2nd + 2nd, but something else. Caufield has only played 13 NHL games with 4 goals, and whilst his potential is sky high I don't think his value is higher than Girard who is more proven.

Whatever the case that Caufield package was just an example, feel free to envisage the same trade but with other pieces going to Buffalo that match Girard's value.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures
Sujet: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>None of know anything, we can only speculate.
Initially Terry looked to be a big spender, lately not so much.
But IMO Jack's value has hit rock bottom.
In the last 21 games he played the Sabres were 6-12-3 with 4 shut outs and scoring 5 or more goals once.
In the last 24 games that he has not played the Sabres are 11-11-2 with 2 shut outs and scoring 5 or more goals 6 times.
<strong>Even considering his value has dropped, this offer is not sufficient</strong>.</div></div>
Girard is a young top pairing Dman with league-leading metrics in zone exits and transitions, and also happens to have one of the best contracts in the league.

Newhook is an NHL-ready bluechip center prospect, who was ranked 12th in The Athletic's prospect ranking in August.

Do you envisage other teams offering more than that package as a base for an Eichel trade?
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures
Sujet: Eichel via Arizona
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>QualityTrades1</b></div><div>Still going to find a way to sign MacKinnon and quality goaltending?</div></div>

Erik Johnson's $6m caphit comes off the books in 2023 and will cover most if not all of Mackinnon's raise. Kadri would also leave in UFA in 2022 to save another $3.5m over a prospect (with Jost taking over 3C again).

Avs would obviously need some prospects and some cheap UFA signings to round out the lineup, but the D would still be among the best in the league and Mackinnon/Eichel as 1C/2C would likely more than compensate for cheaper depth in the bottom 6.

Byram's contract in 2023 might be tricky, but I'd wager that they'd simply bridge him to keep the AAV down until the end of Eichel's contract. If Barron and/or Helleson have made the step up maybe it would also be feasible to trade Toews in 2023 (when he has 1 year to UFA) for some cap relief.