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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Adding to our d-core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Exaggerations? He was below replacement level this season....

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System-wise it just doesn't work. He's not a good enough skater.</div></div>

Zadorov is fine if you use him right. He's bad at zone coverage, but he's a monster at defending 1v1 in transition, and that's why he's had success primarily against guys like McDavid and Patrick Kane, rather than defending on the cycle.

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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Adding to our d-core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Except Howden can easily be a good offensive 3rd liner haha Kamenev is a 12-13th forward</div></div>

Haha, please... I wasn't born yesterday. I've seen Howden's horrific analytics. And I've also watched the Rangers vs Carolina games. There's a reason why he's included in so many trade proposals on here, because Rangers fans know that he sucks.

As for Kamenev, he has the skating and stickhandling to be a middle 6 C, but he just lacks hockey IQ and that's why he gets lit up with hits so often. Real shame because there's some high end talent there. Maybe it's a confidence thing though and he can turn it around; it isn't easy to get into the league when you keep getting injured in freak injuries every time you get going.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Adding to our d-core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Looks good aside from Bonino and Zadorov. Zadorov not really a good enough skater to play in our system (aside from being below replacement level bad this year) and don't think we'd pay a 2nd round + for a rental....

Not a hard fix. For 2 2nds, Hajek + Howden you can A LOT more than Bonino + Zadorov.</div></div>

Howden has literally THE worst CF% and FF% possession stats in the entire league at 5v5 among forwards with over 50 games played. Just a terrible player.

And Hajek has pretty dreadful metrics too, even worse than Howden in some stats.

Needless to say I highly doubt you're getting two solid NHLers by packaging garbage together.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures

Sujet: Adding to our d-core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Hajek is basically a thrown in don't put a lot of attention to him haha.</div></div>

I've gradually come to realise that Howden, Rykov, and Hayek don't hold a lot of value. They're basically your versions of Kamenev who you throw into any deal to sweeten the pot.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures

Sujet: Adding to our d-core

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>2nd seems fair for zadorov. wouldn't mind getting lemieux tho</div></div>

2nd isn't nearly enough for Zadorov on it's own unless it's a relatively high 2nd. This offer isn't nearly enough since it's a 2022 pick as well.

2nd + 3rd if the 2nd is late.
2nd + 4th if the 2nd is mid round.
2nd + very minor add if it's early (remove the minor add if it's a high 2nd in 2020).

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures

Sujet: Canadiens

That's the easiest "no" from Colorado.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures

Sujet: Killorn AND Palat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Not too sure about this one, chief. Ava are gunna need to end up doing cap dumps of their own as soon as next offseason if they do this trade. Makar, Landeskog, Grubauer all need extensions</div></div>

Fair point. I figure that we could cut at least 1 notable contract with the Expansion Draft to open up some capspace.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 11 heures

Sujet: Pekka Rinne

JVR is too slow for this Avs team. And you'll be lucky to get anything at all in return for him with his cap hit in a flat cap league.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Killorn AND Palat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Many people on here ridiculously overvalue recently drafted prospects that have yet to play even an AHL game.. lol, not saying that's what Richard88 is doing on this thread but I see it quite often on CapFriendly.</div></div>

I may be doing that actually, so it's a fair point. It's hard to place a value on prospects, or trade value of players with NTC's for that matter.

Whatever the case I think Colorado has the assets and capspaceto pull a trade like this off and thereby have a ridiculously deep lineup next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Killorn AND Palat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>I don't know anything about Beaucage, but shouldn't the fact his point statistics didn't change at all from the year he was drafted suggest that he's still about worth just that mid 3rd pick?</div></div>

No, it should't. If you look at the quality of his linemates and team overall from season to season you'll notice a huge change in quality, as the team went from champions (losing 8 games) to losing 30 games this season. And yet despite that Beaucage has still managed to put up 1 goal more in 5 less games.

2018/19: <a href="https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/890/rouyn-noranda-huskies/2018-2019?tab=stats" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/890/rouyn-noranda-huskies/2018-2019?tab=stats</a>
2019/20: <a href="https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/890/rouyn-noranda-huskies/2019-2020?tab=stats" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/890/rouyn-noranda-huskies/2019-2020?tab=stats</a>

In 2018/19 Beaucage was 3rd with 79 points in 68 games, and played with two guys putting up 85 and 111 points.

This season he's by far the leading scorer with 70 points in 63 games, and his 40 goals are almost double the next player on the team.

It's easy to just look at his totals and assume that he hasn't progressed, but the fact is that he's now carrying the teams offense on his own, and it's pretty remarkable that he's still putting up points at over PPG pace without any support.

That's why I think it's fair to say that his stock has risen this year, because he's proven that he can drive offense by himself rather than being a product of a good team or other linemates.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 13 heures

Sujet: Killorn AND Palat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>How Beaucage is equivalent to a 2nd? He was a 3rd round pick last year and his numbers have dropped from what they were then. Not that much, but still. I do believe Palat to be worth more than this, quite easily.

I'm a TB fan and trading Killer for two low 2nd and 3rd rounders (especially to a 2021 2nd since that draft is expected to be weaker) just seems too weak...</div></div>

Beaucage was drafted 78th (mid 3rd) and since had a very strong season and showed improvement in his skating which was his biggest weakness. In any case, would 2nd + 3rd + Jost get closer?

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 13 heures

Sujet: Killorn AND Palat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Don't see TB being that interested. From the right team TB could get a return equivalent to that just for Killorn.

I'd imagine Jost+1st to get the talks going. COL first will be a low one, and Jost as a relatively cheap roster player should be off interest for them.</div></div>

In many previously AGM's a 2nd + 3rd for Killorn has seemed to be agreeable, and from discussions with Tampa fans they think a 2nd (equivalent to Beaucage) would suffice for Palat given his full NTC. Keep in mind that there aren't many teams which both of them would waive for which can also take on salary without sending any back.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 13 heures

Sujet: If no Laf trade Drouin and sign Hall

Zadorov for Drouin is probably fair value, but Drouin isn't the right fit for Colorado.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures

Sujet: Contending with Lafreniere

Easy no from Colorado.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures

Sujet: Manipulation

If that 1st is in the teens then sure. If it's later than that Rangers add another pick. Late 1st + 2nd, or #22ish + 3rd seems about right.

Burakovsky only gets moved if Colorado manage to find an upgrade though.

Panarin at C though, not sure that's a smart move given how good of a forward he is.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: the trade is wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>I think what will end up being a similar situation to Boston.
McAvoy and Krug don't play together, despite being the clear two best guys.

Byram is not the right partner for Makar imo, Makar needs a defensively strong partner... byram is too defensively weak, at least now.</div></div>

Byram was Canada's main shutdown Dman at the WJC's despite being the youngest Dman on the team. He'll be fine defensively.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures

Sujet: Trading Burakovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Fair but shooting at 20% is crazy and not really a normal amount of production. Hes better than 25 points for sure, but hes not likely a 65 point guy normally.</div></div>

It's hard to predict with Burakovsky. On the one hand he is shooting close to 19.4% which is clearly unsustainable; but on the other hand he's a player that has always shot at higher than league average (career 13.9%), so even a small reduction won't be overly dramatic if he sees a regression to the mean. He's also a player that thrives on confidence, so it's not unfathomable that he could elevate his play a little bit off the back of this season and a new contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Toronto trade from other AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>Don't think there is with it either.</div></div>

Fine by me. I'm happy enough to keep Calvert and get a 2nd + 3rd for Zadorov elsewhere. Calvert is a warrior and a big reason why Colorado is so hard to beat. The team literally only lost once this season with a healthy lineup, and even that loss was in OT.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Toronto trade from other AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Strange, when the Leafs don't win, the reason given is they are outworked.. Other teams don't win, and rarely the "outworked" reason is given. You really think the Leafs lost on Sunday because they were outworked or are you giving just a standard answer?</div></div>
"Outworked" might be the wrong word, but Columbus definitely got the better of Toronto's depth lines.

There's a reason why the Leafs fan who made the original proposal involving acquiring Calvert and Zadorov called his AGM "Better balance next year"

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/346524?post_id=1602666">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/346524?post_id=1602666</a>

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Who knows

I don't think Palmieri is the type of forward Colorado needs. We already have two shooters in Kadri and Burakovsky, and a sniper like Palmieri is more of the same.

I also would MUCH rather have Reichel than an aging Palmieri. Reichel has 1st line potential and would be a steal if he goes later than the early 20's. Adding Reichel to the Avs roster in 2022 or 2023 on an ELC just as Mackinnon and Byram need new contracts would be a huge boost.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Trading Burakovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Forgive me for being a little skeptical, the 4 years at 25 points make me feel like this year is an outlier, and at 25 hes not really going to change much</div></div>

He's always had the shot generation stats to suggest that he's a top 6 forward, he just didn't get much of an opportunity in Washington the last couple of years. That's why Sakic (who is big on analytics) paid a 2nd + 3rd for him, because the analytics suggested that he'd score more in a bigger role, which he has done.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Toronto trade from other AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>I honestly wouldn't mind this trade if we could save the 2020 2nd rounder.</div></div>

That 2nd rounder is the best piece in the trade going to Colorado. Without it there's no deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures

Sujet: Toronto trade from other AGM

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Doesn't help the Leafs cap or on the ice.</div></div>

Adding Calvert would absolutely help you on the ice. Your weak bottom 6 is a big reason why a team like Columbus can outwork the Leafs, and Calvert would change that in a hurry.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 20 heures

Sujet: Better Balance Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>start replacing guys like calvert with guys like johnsson and you'll have the same problem the leafs do. imo calvert is worth keeping.</div></div>

If we acquired Johnsson i'd be looking to flip him, and then sign an UFA 4th liner to take Calvert's place. Or use this haul of draft picks to pick up a younger version of Calvert via trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 20 heures

Sujet: back 2 back covid cups

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>That'll do!</div></div>

That NJ trade is missing a 3rd.

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