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My second attempt at guessing what it would take to move up from 7th overall

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          7th overall and Ottawa's choice of one of our former first round picks
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              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 45
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              Which player would they want?

              For instance, if it were Shane Wright and he slipped to #2 would the package for #1 be on the table?

              Because as a Devils fan, I would take Sanderson + #7 for #2 all day and every day.
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              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 49
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Which player would they want?

              For instance, if it were Shane Wright and he slipped to #2 would the package for #1 be on the table?

              Because as a Devils fan, I would take Sanderson + #7 for #2 all day and every day.


              I would be rather surprised if Montreal didn't take Shane Wright.

              As for who we would pick at 7th overall, it would be someone like Joakim Kemell.
              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 52
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              The Habs one is fair value, but they probably say no because of the prospect logjam at LD
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              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 52
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Which player would they want?

              For instance, if it were Shane Wright and he slipped to #2 would the package for #1 be on the table?

              Because as a Devils fan, I would take Sanderson + #7 for #2 all day and every day.


              Agreed. Or they could pony up Norris for 2nd OA, I’d take the too. But the sens would be nuts to do it
              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 54
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Which player would they want?

              For instance, if it were Shane Wright and he slipped to #2 would the package for #1 be on the table?

              Because as a Devils fan, I would take Sanderson + #7 for #2 all day and every day.


              I don’t think Ottawa would even offer up Sanderson for 1st overall straight up
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              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 56
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              I would be rather surprised if Montreal didn't take Shane Wright.

              As for who we would pick at 7th overall, it would be someone like Joakim Kemell.


              Agree on Habs and Wright.

              Who would Sens take at #2 though?

              I would be up for almost any scenario that gets NJD Sanderson and the 7th for the 2nd. But I doubt Ottawa makes that big of an offer unless they are dead set on one guy (like Cooley or Slafkovsky).

              I think the draft will do a little like this:

              1. Wright
              2. Cooley
              3. Nemec
              4. Slafkovsky
              5. Gauthier
              6. Nazar

              So Sens left with Jiricek, Lambert, Lekkerimaki etc to choose from.
              16 juin 2022 à 10 h 58
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              If we're moving up, I'd hope we'd trade 7OA and a 2nd only for one of the two available RHD, especially Nemec. If he makes it to 4OA I'd be all over Seattle.
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              Quoting: Book_Hockey
              Agreed. Or they could pony up Norris for 2nd OA, I’d take the too. But the sens would be nuts to do it


              I wouldn’t even ask for Norris. He’ll be a cornerstone piece for them.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Agree on Habs and Wright.

              Who would Sens take at #2 though?

              I would be up for almost any scenario that gets NJD Sanderson and the 7th for the 2nd. But I doubt Ottawa makes that big of an offer unless they are dead set on one guy (like Cooley or Slafkovsky).

              I think the draft will do a little like this:

              1. Wright
              2. Cooley
              3. Nemec
              4. Slafkovsky
              5. Gauthier
              6. Nazar

              So Sens left with Jiricek, Lambert, Lekkerimaki etc to choose from.


              I hope Jiricek falls to 7th, but with the scarcity of RHD, I see him going top 5.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 0
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              what do you think is the sens biggest needs? i guess that should indicate for wich spot you shoud aim to trade.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 2
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              Quoting: Book_Hockey
              Agreed. Or they could pony up Norris for 2nd OA, I’d take the too. But the sens would be nuts to do it


              I think there is 0% chance that Ottawa trades any of their core young pieces to move up in the draft (Tkachuk, Norris, Batherson, Jimmy Stu, Sanderson, Chabot), even for 1 or 2 OA. Our centres seem to be set with Norris, Stuztle, Pinto down the middle.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 2
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              I don’t think Ottawa would even offer up Sanderson for 1st overall straight up


              I guess if they really loved Wright, Cooley, whomever. Sanderson will be a stud. But Habs need that pick more than anyone.

              Sens should stay at #7. It’s a good spot.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 4
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              If we're moving up, I'd hope we'd trade 7OA and a 2nd only for one of the two available RHD, especially Nemec. If he makes it to 4OA I'd be all over Seattle.


              Seattle has four 2nd rounders already. They need bodies.

              So 7th plus prospect may be more successful approach.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 4
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              I guess if they really loved Wright, Cooley, whomever. Sanderson will be a stud. But Habs need that pick more than anyone.

              Sens should stay at #7. It’s a good spot.


              I’d try and move up to 5 but higher isn’t worth it. Philly doesn’t have a 2nd so 7 + 39 (I think) for 5 is fine with me to grab Jiricek
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 12
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              I hope Jiricek falls to 7th, but with the scarcity of RHD, I see him going top 5.


              I think it’s probably 50/50 Jiricek makes it to #7.

              I think top-4 are very likely to be Wright, Cooley, Nemec, Slafkovsky (not sure the order).

              Then I could see centers Gauthier, Nazar and Kasper all considered at #5 and #6.

              If Jiricek goes #6, Sens could probably move back a few slots and grab Chesley as there are a few teams behind them that need centers (Detroit at #8, Anaheim at #10, San Jose at #11)
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 14
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              If Jiricek is still there at 6, the Jackets take him. If he’s already gone, they’d probably be down to switch you for 7th.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 16
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              Quoting: csick
              I’d try and move up to 5 but higher isn’t worth it. Philly doesn’t have a 2nd so 7 + 39 (I think) for 5 is fine with me to grab Jiricek


              There was an Athletic piece by Corey Pronman the other day, where he polled scouts, and it sounded like Gauthier was going top-5 or even top-3. So it may just be Columbus you have to deal with. But I think RHD is on their wishlist too.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 18
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              There was an Athletic piece by Corey Pronman the other day, where he polled scouts, and it sounded like Gauthier was going top-5 or even top-3. So it may just be Columbus you have to deal with. But I think RHD is on their wishlist too.


              I wouldn’t be surprised if Gauthier goes that high . Could be this years McTavish but I’m just not convinced Ottawa will draft Savoie or Kemell . So I’m hoping Gauthier or Jiricek is available so Ottawa doesn’t pass on Savoie and Kemell for the next group of guys
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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              I wouldn’t be surprised if Gauthier goes that high . Could be this years McTavish but I’m just not convinced Ottawa will draft Savoie or Kemell . So I’m hoping Gauthier or Jiricek is available so Ottawa doesn’t pass on Savoie and Kemell for the next group of guys


              I think Kemell falls to 15-20 range. Savoie probably goes #8 or #10 to DET or ANA.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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              Nah.
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              I don't really think there is much logic in moving up just one spot (re: CBJ's pick via CHI).

              Either CBJ is going to pick the player you want, in which case, SOL; or, they aren't, in which case you don't need to make the trade.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 24
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              Agree on Habs and Wright.

              Who would Sens take at #2 though?

              I would be up for almost any scenario that gets NJD Sanderson and the 7th for the 2nd. But I doubt Ottawa makes that big of an offer unless they are dead set on one guy (like Cooley or Slafkovsky).

              I think the draft will do a little like this:

              1. Wright
              2. Cooley
              3. Nemec
              4. Slafkovsky
              5. Gauthier
              6. Nazar

              So Sens left with Jiricek, Lambert, Lekkerimaki etc to choose from.


              At #2, Ottawa would take either Nemec or Slafkovsky.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 25
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              Quoting: backpacker10
              I think there is 0% chance that Ottawa trades any of their core young pieces to move up in the draft (Tkachuk, Norris, Batherson, Jimmy Stu, Sanderson, Chabot), even for 1 or 2 OA. Our centres seem to be set with Norris, Stuztle, Pinto down the middle.


              Agreed, no chance they’ll do it, but it sure would be nice if they did
              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 26
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              Quoting: drambui
              what do you think is the sens biggest needs? i guess that should indicate for wich spot you shoud aim to trade.


              1. Top 6 right-shot RW

              2. Top 4 right-shot RD
              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 29
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              Quoting: dopplsan
              I don't really think there is much logic in moving up just one spot (re: CBJ's pick via CHI).

              Either CBJ is going to pick the player you want, in which case, SOL; or, they aren't, in which case you don't need to make the trade.


              Paying to move up 1 spot never makes sense. Minimum you move up is 2 spots because you're worried the guy ahead of you is taking your pick.
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              16 juin 2022 à 11 h 31
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              Nah.
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              Paying to move up 1 spot never makes sense. Minimum you move up is 2 spots because you're worried the guy ahead of you is taking your pick.


              Exactly.

              So, I mean, I guess if the guy who is top of CBJ's draft board at 6OA is still there at 7OA, then sure, CBJ will take the free 2nd.
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