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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 9:27 am

Sujet: Georgiev requests trade can this lead to Eichel

Value isn't there, but Adams has kind of pinned himself into a corner with the Kings and Vegas using all of their cap space on FA's. MIN backed out because the price was too rich. MTL may be involved but I doubt it. So yeah, this could work for all we know.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 1:46 pm

Sujet: Im begging you Chris

Buffalo tells you to kick rocks. Not nearly enough quality there

Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 1:21 pm

Sujet: GET IT DONE

Pass on Teresenko

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 4:29 pm

Sujet: IF YOU CAN ONLY SEE THE WAY SHE DOUGIE THEN MAYBE YOUD UNDERSTAND

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>maybe for the first couple of years but the guys 28 and the devils aren't gonna be major contenders for a couple of seasons and hell be declining. Take it from troubas point of view and hes younger, not every big name guy works out the way you want him to.</div></div>

Yeah except Hamilton is significantly better than Trouba and has been for years....not an apples to apples comparison. I'd expect regression as he ages but nothing crazy

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 3:50 pm

Sujet: IF YOU CAN ONLY SEE THE WAY SHE DOUGIE THEN MAYBE YOUD UNDERSTAND

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>better chance at overpaying for him for sure</div></div>

a 7x9 deal for Hamilton is hardly an overpayment.....maybe by a little, but not a lot.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:25 am

Sujet: No Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>He isn’t elite offensively, terrible on the dot and decent defensively. In fact Chytil was better offensively and on the dot</div></div>

He is elite offensively, dig into the underlying numbers. Also very good defensively. Again, the only downfall in his game right now are faceoffs

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:23 am

Sujet: Possibly Roster after Rumors

Why would AZ send picks when they're tearing things down? That doesn't make much sense. Neither does giving up assets to acquire one year of Strome.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:16 am

Sujet: This actually might be good

Not nearly enough for Dvorak

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:13 am

Sujet: No Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>I agree not all 1st are equal which is why I didn’t just offer a 1st.. so yes let’s say 10OA(Chytil) and 20OA. What does this get you?? # 9/8/7/6/5/4/3/2?

As for Hughes, sure points, can’t produce points and we can all defend it by saying he doesn’t have marner and panarin on his line. So why does a 1OA supposed to be 1C suck at faceoffs? The wingers in NJ are better on the dot. “But he is good defensively” well ya, he is always playing defensive when you don’t win a faceoff. I think he was ranked 100th in the league for faceoffs. That’s a list of players who take a substantial amount of faceoffs</div></div>

No numbers 10 and 20 do not get you anything past probably 6, especially in this class where there were clearly 2-3 top prospects, which Beniers was one of them. The value isn't there. Now if Strome had an extension, then I could see it, because he's under rated at this point, could get a 1st and a 3rd if he has an extension. But one year of Strome, Chytil, and a late 2022 1st doesn't get you the 2nd over all pick and a 2nd.

Lol so Hughes stinks because he's not good in the dot, got it...losing a lot of credibility with boneheaded arguments like that one.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:46 am

Sujet: No Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>That's not enough for an expansion team to trade a young player in a position they need.

Beniers>>Chytil

Strome + 1st for 2nd doesn't make up the difference

And what does "could flip like Hughes did" mean?</div></div>

Probably part of the "look at Hughes' his point totals, he stinks" crowd...pay him no mind

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:43 am

Sujet: No Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Value wise.

Chytil = 1st
Strome = 2nd + 3rd minimum
Upgrade a 2nd to a 1st (15-20 spots)

So essentially they are getting 2 1sts and a 3rd for the 2OA.. normally when you trade down you don’t get 3-4 1sts or an Eichel package.. no telling if Beniers is even good at NHL level yet, he could flip like Hughes did. Might have to move the kid to wing or 3C</div></div>

Right but all 1st rounders are not created equal. Beniers has the value of the 2nd overall pick...Chytil isn't worth close to that. For arguments sake let's say 10OA in value. Strome, without a contract extension, is a 2+3. And the 2022nd 1st is more than likely what, 20-25? So in your opinion

10OA
2nd, 3rd rounder
pick 20-25

Is worth number 2?

I don't see it- need a lot more than that. Plus we haven't even touched on the fact Seattle wouldn't move the guy they want to be the face of their franchise lol

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:07 am

Sujet: No Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>It’s an ACGM.. would you like to ask something specific?</div></div>

Sorry, yeah let me clarify, why the heck would the Kraken do this trade?

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 8:57 am

Sujet: No Eichel

Lmao what is this

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 5:23 pm

Sujet: Unrealistic but also realistic

Not enough on either deal. Sharks fans say Foote and a first is the starting point, which, if that's really his value (i don't believe it is) than it's a non starter. Not giving up first rounders that could end up in the top 10 in what's projected to be a strong draft.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 17 h 21

Sujet: Big Moves

No chance they move Kakko. Not worth it.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 16 h 13

Sujet: Post Goodrow

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>I mean I know how much Buch is worth on the ice, whether Drury decides to keep him or trade him for more or less of his on-ice value will be reflective of his quality as a GM</div></div>

Not looking good so far…

Forum: Armchair-GM23 jui à 8 h 12

Sujet: Quinn

Wild over payment for a defenseman who doesn't play defense

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 16 h 45

Sujet: Meier Hamilton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Sharks decline everyday and every night. Nothing you want to give us is worth Meier</div></div>

I would add Mercer to that package, but even then I don't think the Sharks do it...hard to figure out his price with the ebbs and flows of his career.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 52

Sujet: Meier to NJ - Whats the Cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>He was, at times, bumped to Sharks 3rd line.
I am not saying he is Andreas Johnsson, but he is not a lock to be top-6 on our team either.</div></div>

He absolutely would be. Our wingers are not anything special...Outside of Bratt and Sharangovich, who are you penciling in? Zacha may get moved to 3C, but I guess he should stay at winger after a 20 goal season. Kuokannen will get some run there. Holtz, as talented as he is, probably isn't ready based off of what we saw last season in Sweden/AHL. Foote?

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 24

Sujet: Rumor Has It

Best case scenario for Buffalo

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 23

Sujet: NYR 22-23 can they fit Eichel and keep their players

Sabres aren't retaining salary for 5 years lol

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 13

Sujet: DEVILS ALL IN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>Blues decline....</div></div>

Serious question- why? He's had two shoulder surgeries and has a massive cap hit. 14 pts in 24 games...was it rust? Or is that the player he is now? TBH Teresenko probably declines so the point is moot lol

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 12

Sujet: Meier to NJ - Whats the Cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Meier isn't worth anywhere close to 10M

He's been regressing every year</div></div>

But he's still only 24 and he'd be on PP1. Could thrive in that role..and he'd be playing with Jack or Nico

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 15 h 09

Sujet: Meier to NJ - Whats the Cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>We don't want his 10m QO</div></div>

Heck, I'll take it, we have cap space to burn!

Forum: Armchair-GM22 jui à 14 h 54

Sujet: Meier to NJ - Whats the Cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>I think Foote is good but doesn’t move the needle for me really. Now let’s be fair: I DO THINK HE IS GOOD. But the needle likely needs to be tilting to SJS. If SJS doesn’t get a great haul then either:

Wilson will be fired sooner rather than later

Won’t move at all

And I presume SJS wants to move him and Kane/ Labanc (one of them). So they aren’t looking for small returns on their big targets: with Meier being the biggest fish we have if not Kane (but that’s a different story).</div></div>

Totally fair, but to call him a "spare part" is just downright disrespectful haha

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