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Justice for Kyle Beach

28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 28
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Picks are forfeited as well as a $10,000,000 penalty given and distributed between Kyle Beach, NHLPA, Local Chicago Sexual Assult Victims' charities, and expulsion to anyone in the front office who knew about it from ever being employed by the league again. They had no excuse.
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 30
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id be down but im a blues fan so maybe im bais anyway something needs to be done
It definitely be like 4 first rounders and like 4 seconds look at AZ they gave up 2 firsts and 3 seconds for testing players
28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 33
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I doubt the league could just take money from the hawks and give it to beach. Maybe there’s a way around it. Penalty to chicago, then the league, “settles,” a potential lawsuit with beach for an oddly similar amount. Honestly $10M kind of seems like a slap on the wrist.

I’ve heard people calling for stripping them of the cups. Taht thought honestly never crossed my mind, what are your thoughts on that?
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 35
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There's a lawsuit that is taking care of the $ side of it. I bet it'll be much much more than $10M.
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 36
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Not sure why the NHLPA gets a cut, but yeah.
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 36
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Not sure why the NHLPA gets a cut, but yeah.


The NHLPA should be sued! They let him down too!
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 38
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Why does Anaheim get all the picks huh ? lol
28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 39
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I doubt the league could just take money from the hawks and give it to beach. Maybe there’s a way around it. Penalty to chicago, then the league, “settles,” a potential lawsuit with beach for an oddly similar amount. Honestly $10M kind of seems like a slap on the wrist.

I’ve heard people calling for stripping them of the cups. Taht thought honestly never crossed my mind, what are your thoughts on that?


If $10M is a slap on the wrist, then up it more. $25M-50M, Something along those lines.
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 39
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The Wirtz family should be forced to sell the team imo. Penn State, The Clippers. I know I'm not currently operating under "facts". I'm operating under opinions here, but I don't think there's a way that they didn't know. AND I FOR SURE think they're continuing to make mistake after mistake in handling this.
28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 44
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If $10M is a slap on the wrist, then up it more. $25M-50M, Something along those lines.


I’m jsut trying to think of what would happen if another 1.1 billion dollar corporation covered up a rape. Actually they would probably wriggle out of it somehow. I’m also thinking at what it took for the coyotes to lose a first and second round pick, and get fined 250K. This is exponentially worse.
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28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 51
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I’m jsut trying to think of what would happen if another 1.1 billion dollar corporation covered up a rape. Actually they would probably wriggle out of it somehow. I’m also thinking at what it took for the coyotes to lose a first and second round pick, and get fined 250K. This is exponentially worse.


1,000% agreed. It is exponentially worse. We on this site understand what picks cost both $ wise and to a teams success. I just have a hard time understanding what a 1st round pick would mean to KB? The Wirtz family should be forced out imo. The same way the NBA forced out Donald Sterling.
28 oct. 2021 à 13 h 56
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I’ve heard people calling for stripping them of the cups. Taht thought honestly never crossed my mind, what are your thoughts on that?


NCAA does this a lot. Should be considered but the major leagues are too craven about it.
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28 oct. 2021 à 14 h 1
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I think it should definitely be higher than $10M, as others have said.
28 oct. 2021 à 14 h 11
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The owners should be forced to sell
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28 oct. 2021 à 14 h 27
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The fine should've been way bigger yes, take Aldrich's name off the cup, fire Q and Chevy
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28 oct. 2021 à 14 h 28
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The Wirtz family should be forced to sell the team imo. Penn State, The Clippers. I know I'm not currently operating under "facts". I'm operating under opinions here, but I don't think there's a way that they didn't know. AND I FOR SURE think they're continuing to make mistake after mistake in handling this.


Yeah, I remain ever baffled at how Penn State is still allowed to have a football program.
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28 oct. 2021 à 20 h 19
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Picks are forfeited as well as a $10,000,000 penalty given and distributed between Kyle Beach, NHLPA, Local Chicago Sexual Assult Victims' charities, and expulsion to anyone in the front office who knew about it from ever being employed by the league again. They had no excuse.


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I doubt the league could just take money from the hawks and give it to beach. Maybe there’s a way around it. Penalty to chicago, then the league, “settles,” a potential lawsuit with beach for an oddly similar amount. Honestly $10M kind of seems like a slap on the wrist.

I’ve heard people calling for stripping them of the cups. Taht thought honestly never crossed my mind, what are your thoughts on that?


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If $10M is a slap on the wrist, then up it more. $25M-50M, Something along those lines.


Ya, the craziest part is I'm pretty sure it's only a 2million dollar fine that they gave the blackhawks.
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28 oct. 2021 à 20 h 33
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Ya, the craziest part is I'm pretty sure it's only a 2million dollar fine that they gave the blackhawks.


I bet there’s more coming.
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29 oct. 2021 à 10 h 17
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The fine should've been way bigger yes, take Aldrich's name off the cup, fire Q and Chevy


Agreed. I don't understand why people are being allowed to resign. Like isn't that part of the problem in the first place is that Aldrich was allowed to quit? Fire those guys that knew. I'm also disgusted at the lack of consistency between Toews, Kane and Keith. I bet they all knew and they just didn't do anything. Isn't it better to say that then to pretend they didn't know?
29 oct. 2021 à 10 h 20
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Agreed. I don't understand why people are being allowed to resign. Like isn't that part of the problem in the first place is that Aldrich was allowed to quit? Fire those guys that knew. I'm also disgusted at the lack of consistency between Toews, Kane and Keith. I bet they all knew and they just didn't do anything. Isn't it better to say that then to pretend they didn't know?


Because if the team fired them, they’d have to pay their salary and it could be ground for a wrongful dismissal lawsuit since they did it 11 years ago on a different team, this way Q, Bowman, probably Chevy will not be paid by the team, keep a shred of dignity and won’t sue the team. Also yes, Toews, Keith, Kane aren’t looking too good right now
29 oct. 2021 à 10 h 24
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Because if the team fired them, they’d have to pay their salary and it could be ground for a wrongful dismissal lawsuit since they did it 11 years ago on a different team, this way Q, Bowman, probably Chevy will not be paid by the team, keep a shred of dignity and won’t sue the team. Also yes, Toews, Keith, Kane aren’t looking too good right now


Good points.
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2 nov. 2021 à 15 h 3
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I’ve seen a lot of picks being taken, but that isn’t fair. More investigation needs to be taken against Toews and Kane, but the rest shouldn’t be punished really. To the best of Gary Bettman,s knowledge, ownership had no idea of the incident. The Hawks themselves shouldn’t be chastised. However, Joel Quenneville and Stan Bowman should be discredited and banned from the league, for both covering the incident up and letting the perpetrator move on with no consequences. I’ve heard some conversations on whether or not this is aiding and abetting a criminal.
Kane and Toews both stood by Stan Bowman in the incident, saying he was not directly responsible. This is trash. He covered an illegal act up for a playoff run, and knowing of the incident, let Aldrich take the cup to a high school. Bowman and the entire senior staff of the time should be held responsible.
2 nov. 2021 à 15 h 8
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I doubt the league could just take money from the hawks and give it to beach. Maybe there’s a way around it. Penalty to chicago, then the league, “settles,” a potential lawsuit with beach for an oddly similar amount. Honestly $10M kind of seems like a slap on the wrist.

I’ve heard people calling for stripping them of the cups. Taht thought honestly never crossed my mind, what are your thoughts on that?


Don’t take the cups from the hawks, just from players who made homophobic comments toward beach, and maybe toews and Kane for sticking up for Q and Bowman
2 nov. 2021 à 15 h 12
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Don’t take the cups from the hawks, just from players who made homophobic comments toward beach, and maybe toews and Kane for sticking up for Q and Bowman


That’s not possible to do.
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2 nov. 2021 à 15 h 15
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That’s not possible to do.


Then leave the cups with the hawks
 
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