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Bryan Hayes of TSN thinks the Habs should give up Cole Caufield for Jack Eichel

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Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2021
Publié: 3 sept. 2021
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His bias to the Leafs is clearly showing :(
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 40
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    I mean, theyd have too as this community discussed all day yesterday. Which one of y'all is Bryan Hayes?
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 44
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    I mean, theyd have too as this community discussed all day yesterday. Which one of y'all is Bryan Hayes?


    If Montreal is trying to compete they absolutely should do that deal. They have a heavy winger team and chose not to rebuild , now is the time for them to go for it
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 46
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    if it's straight up that's a steal for montreal.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 48
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    Paquette at 3C hurts my eyes
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 55
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    How does suggesting that you have to trade Cole Caufield to get Jack Eichel involve bias towards the Leafs at all?
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 56
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    Montreal can't afford Eichel for more than a year without totally gutting the team. He is not worth it.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 58
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    That just dumb eichel is going to have surgery and caufield is our future. How do some people even are aloud to report on hockey if they don’t understand it.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 59
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    What's your point exactly? Are you trying to imply Cole Caufield is more valuable than Eichel? He's not...

    Compare their careers through the same age and get back to me...
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    3 sept. 2021 à 17 h 59
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    Quoting: Flynnster
    That just dumb eichel is going to have surgery and caufield is our future. How do some people even are aloud to report on hockey if they don’t understand it.


    No successful NHLer has ever had a surgery
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 2
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Montreal can't afford Eichel for more than a year without totally gutting the team. He is not worth it.


    you make room for eichel. the habs don't need the winger depth they have.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 3
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    Quoting: SlickWilly
    How does suggesting that you have to trade Cole Caufield to get Jack Eichel involve bias towards the Leafs at all?


    Montreal and Buffalo are in the same division as Toronto.

    Montreal is more likely to compete this season.

    Eichel won't be available to start the season and would be placed on LTIR if acquired by Montreal.

    Win for Toronto.




    Bryan Hayes is a pundit on a TSN program called Overdrive with Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McClennan.

    They spend like 80 percent of their time talking about the Leafs when they're on air.

    Overdrive is preceded by a program called Leafs Lunch.

    Case Closed smile
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 6
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    Quoting: BCAPP
    What's your point exactly? Are you trying to imply Cole Caufield is more valuable than Eichel? He's not...

    Compare their careers through the same age and get back to me...


    If somebody in the sports media suggests a trade idea that could be widely unpopular, I make a post about it.

    I'm implying what Bryan Hayes thinks, not what I think.

    There's my point smile
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 8
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    you make room for eichel. the habs don't need the winger depth they have.


    10 Mil is 2 wingers + what about Zuke, Romanov, Lehkonen, Evans, Chiarot how do we pay the or replace them with no money left? We have 21 Mil with 9 players to replace after the 22 season take 10 Mil off for Eichel leaves 11 Mil. Zuke gets 7 leaves 4 Mil, Romy gets 3 1 mil and 6 roster spots left to fill even league min contracts won't work unless you trade another 2 wingers. Like I said no room unless you gut the team.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 9
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    That just dumb eichel is going to have surgery and caufield is our future. How do some people even are aloud to report on hockey if they don’t understand it.


    I get Caufield is the future but if you look at it from the perspective that Eichel is only 24 , signed for 5 more years as a high end 1C , while Montreal is a heavy winger dependant team, it makes sense to do it.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 10
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    10 Mil is 2 wingers + what about Zuke, Romanov, Lehkonen, Evans, Chiarot how do we pay the or replace them with no money left? We have 21 Mil with 9 players to replace after the 22 season take 10 Mil off for Eichel leaves 11 Mil. Zuke gets 7 leaves 4 Mil, Romy gets 3 1 mil and 6 roster spots left to fill even league min contracts won't work unless you trade another 2 wingers. Like I said no room unless you gut the team.


    Drouin and Byron included in the Eichel trade. Lehkonen traded next offseason . Chiarot and Kulak walk. Should be close to enough to re-sign everyone
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 11
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    If somebody in the sports media suggests a trade idea that could be widely unpopular, I make a post about it.

    I'm implying what Bryan Hayes thinks, not what I think.

    There's my point smile


    I just find the post very vague. What do you think of the suggestion?

    Cole Caufield could certainly be a big piece in an eichel trade but they are nowhere near the same.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 19
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    I just find the post very vague. What do you think of the suggestion?

    Cole Caufield could certainly be a big piece in an eichel trade but they are nowhere near the same.


    Here's a hint.



    Whenever I make a post that is titled along the lines of:



    High-Profile Basket Case #1 thinks said team should trade this player for that player

    (Like this one)



    I normally think it's a horrible idea that needs to be shared with the world smile
    3 sept. 2021 à 18 h 36
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    Quoting: SlickWilly
    How does suggesting that you have to trade Cole Caufield to get Jack Eichel involve bias towards the Leafs at all?


    Ill take a crack at this. Everybody on this site thinks that its cool to offer their 6th, 7th, and 8th best prospects (two of which are usually either a goalie or a left d) for eichel, say that thats the best offer we will get because hes got a broken neck and just had last rites administered, and boy arent sabres fans gonna be sad when they see what he actually returns. So any offer that includes a decent prospect that was proposed by a leafs fan is just them trolling. Thats my guess anyways.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 19 h 17
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    Here's a hint.



    Whenever I make a post that is titled along the lines of:



    High-Profile Basket Case #1 thinks said team should trade this player for that player

    (Like this one)



    I normally think it's a horrible idea that needs to be shared with the world smile


    Eichel >>>>>> Caufield

    Mtl is in win now mode. Hayes is right.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 19 h 25
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    There's nothing wrong with the idea of trading Caufield for a top 6 center.

    He's an unproven prospect (albeit a good one).
    This team has a clear need (without KK).

    You risk losing a year of 22 other players, aging core among them, by pressing forward without making an effort to address the need. IF Weber is somehow able to join for the playoffs, it will be his last hurrah.

    We're not talking about trading him for a rental past his prime, we're talking about trading a possible core piece for a definite core piece. For a point/game 1st line center approaching his prime, Caufield is a consideration.

    I'm not suggesting we have to trade him, only that it makes sense if it is necessary.
    No way we trade him for Eichel now, but if he looks good in 6 months or so, it has to be a possibility.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 19 h 29
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    Quoting: Barilko14
    Eichel >>>>>> Caufield

    Mtl is in win now mode. Hayes is right.


    Caufield on his ELC = Trip to Cup Final



    Eichel at 10 million per year = Miss the playoffs every year.




    I also hear Eichel could be a candidate for LTIR due to the standoff with his team over what neck surgery to have.



    With that said, what does win-now mode even mean??
    3 sept. 2021 à 19 h 31
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Here's a hint.



    Whenever I make a post that is titled along the lines of:



    High-Profile Basket Case #1 thinks said team should trade this player for that player

    (Like this one)



    I normally think it's a horrible idea that needs to be shared with the world smile


    Well then I strongly disagree with you. Simply compare what they've done thus far in their careers.

    Eichel at 18 won the Hobey baker scoring 71 points in 40 gp
    At 20 he had 57 points in 61 NHL GP

    Caufield at 18 had 36 points in 36 games
    At 20 he had 5 points in 10 GP (and 12 points in 20 playoff gp)

    Caufield is a one way scoring great no way about it. But eichel has outscored him by a large margin and done it as a #1 c, q much harder position where he plays it incredibly.

    They're not in the same tier
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    3 sept. 2021 à 19 h 43
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    Well then I strongly disagree with you. Simply compare what they've done thus far in their careers.

    Eichel at 18 won the Hobey baker scoring 71 points in 40 gp
    At 20 he had 57 points in 61 NHL GP

    Caufield at 18 had 36 points in 36 games
    At 20 he had 5 points in 10 GP (and 12 points in 20 playoff gp)

    Caufield is a one way scoring great no way about it. But eichel has outscored him by a large margin and done it as a #1 c, q much harder position where he plays it incredibly.

    They're not in the same tier


    Eichel won't be available to start the season and would be placed on LTIR if acquired by Montreal.



    Buffalo misses the playoffs every year with Eichel making 10 million ever year.

    Montreal goes to the Cup Final with Caufield still on his ELC and playing on the first line with Toffoli and Suzuki.



    Buffalo will be asking for more than just Caufield.

    If Eichel were healthy and ready to play, Montreal would lose 10 million worth of cap space in the blink of an eye.

    The value just isn't there right now.



    If Eichel was healthy at the trade deadline, then it would be a different story.

    Considering his NMC will kick in on Canada Day, 2022.
    3 sept. 2021 à 22 h 3
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Caufield on his ELC = Trip to Cup Final



    Eichel at 10 million per year = Miss the playoffs every year.




    I also hear Eichel could be a candidate for LTIR due to the standoff with his team over what neck surgery to have.



    With that said, what does win-now mode even mean??


    By this logic Caufield > McDavid.

    Yeah, Eichel is looking to get a surgery that will have him sidelined for 3 or 4 months. After that Mtl has an elite one two punch at C the next several years with Eichel and Suzuki.

    Win now mode means with Price, Petry, Gallagher, etc, etc, etc not getting any younger they are a team that could really use and elite no.1 C to help them win in their contention window.

    That's pretty straightforward.
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    3 sept. 2021 à 22 h 23
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    It makes sense, only thing would be that it makes Jack Quinn redundant
     
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