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Eichel Trade

Créé par: hockeycanada1982
Équipe: 2020-21 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2021
Publié: 11 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Would Buffalo accept this?
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  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Kaliyev, Arthur
  3. Kempe, Adrian
  4. Turcotte, Alex
  5. Vilardi, Gabriel
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 42
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LAK shouldn’t
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 43
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I wouldn't do it if im LA. not worth giving all the futures
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 52
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I am not opposed to an LAK and NYR bidding war for Eichel.
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 52
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Imagine thinking you could get Eichel without your top prospect in the deal...

Byfield included or no deal.
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 53
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LA already has several young promising centers in the pipeline. Not worth blowing up the rebuild for a guy already six years into his career making 8-figures.
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 54
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Imagine thinking you could get Eichel without your top prospect in the deal...

Byfield included or no deal.


I thought of adding Byfield, but added Turcotte and Kaliyev instead of Byfield. I think those 2 alone have more value than Byfield
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11 févr. 2021 à 13 h 55
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No Byfield mo deal. Pretty simple
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 0
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I thought of adding Byfield, but added Turcotte and Kaliyev instead of Byfield. I think those 2 alone have more value than Byfield


You're getting a dominate centre in Eichel. You're giving up a dominate centre or they don't take the call. Byfield will be far more dominate than both those players combined.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 3
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Not without Byfield coming back, you'll still need to add Kaliyev, ****emo and picks
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 6
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Overpay, no thanks.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 9
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I think BUF definitely takes that deal.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Imagine thinking you could get Eichel without your top prospect in the deal...

Byfield included or no deal.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No Byfield mo deal. Pretty simple


Quoting: Ryminister_27
You're getting a dominate centre in Eichel. You're giving up a dominate centre or they don't take the call. Byfield will be far more dominate than both those players combined.


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Not without Byfield coming back, you'll still need to add Kaliyev, ****emo and picks


Turcotte+Vilardi>Byfield.

Kings decline this and any package you can think of very easily. Eichel is definitely overrated. Very good player, but overrated. Has he ever got over 80 points? I don't believe so. When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel.

Byfield and a 1st is fair value for Eichel, but the package above is a massive overpay from LA.

The only player in the NHL that is worth a top 6 center who has 1C potential(Vilardi), a 1/2C/LW prospect(Turcotte), the 2nd best goal scorer in his class who also scored a goal in his NHL debut despite being 2 years away from the NHL(Kaliyev), a top 6 LW who hasn't even reached his potential yet(Kempe), and two 1st round picks who could be high picks is McDavid.

Again, Kings very easily decline. They are worse after making this trade.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 23
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Turcotte+Vilardi>Byfield.

Kings decline this and any package you can think of very easily. Eichel is definitely overrated. Very good player, but overrated. Has he ever got over 80 points? I don't believe so. When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel.

Byfield and a 1st is fair value for Eichel, but the package above is a massive overpay from LA.

The only player in the NHL that is worth a top 6 center who has 1C potential(Vilardi), a 1/2C/LW prospect(Turcotte), the 2nd best goal scorer in his class who also scored a goal in his NHL debut despite being 2 years away from the NHL(Kaliyev), a top 6 LW who hasn't even reached his potential yet(Kempe), and two 1st round picks who could be high picks is McDavid.

Again, Kings very easily decline. They are worse after making this trade.


Did you just compare Vilardi to Eichel? Yikes
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 26
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Did you just compare Vilardi to Eichel? Yikes


You know what I said and you're not smart enough to comprehend it.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 31
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You know what I said and you're not smart enough to comprehend it.


Lol

Im not disagreeing with declining a 9 for 1. But thinking Vilardi will be even remotely as good as Eichel is pure homerism. Im a big Vilardi fan but my blinders are that bad.

As I said before, no Byfield no Eichel. You want Eichel you offer up Byfield as the main piece
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 36
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I would t make this trade.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Turcotte+Vilardi>Byfield.

Kings decline this and any package you can think of very easily. Eichel is definitely overrated. Very good player, but overrated. Has he ever got over 80 points? I don't believe so. When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel.

Byfield and a 1st is fair value for Eichel, but the package above is a massive overpay from LA.

The only player in the NHL that is worth a top 6 center who has 1C potential(Vilardi), a 1/2C/LW prospect(Turcotte), the 2nd best goal scorer in his class who also scored a goal in his NHL debut despite being 2 years away from the NHL(Kaliyev), a top 6 LW who hasn't even reached his potential yet(Kempe), and two 1st round picks who could be high picks is McDavid.

Again, Kings very easily decline. They are worse after making this trade.


This may be the worse opinion I've read.

Eichel overrrated? LOL.. points aren't everything. He's had almost no support the entire time he's been there. He's been through almost as many coaches as years he's been in the league (tough to adjust to) and yet he's still been dominant. Watch him play before you spew dumb things like that.

Vilardi at his ceiling will be Eichel?! Sorry, did I read that right? LOL! Vilardi will never top 70 points. So if you wanna compare just off points like you did in your first argument, Vilardi won't even each Eichel's career high as of now.

Byfield and a 1st is a "massive overpay"?! LOL.. a prospect that's never played a game in the NHL and another that's likely 2-3 years away from the league (the unknown pick) is worth more than a top 5 player in the league? Wow.

I understand wanting to support your favourite team and believe all the best for them, but you've said the most homer thing I think I've ever read.

Eichel is dominant. He makes every player around him better. He's a pure play driver, point producer, contributes at both ends of the rink, is a leader in the dressing room, and is signed to a long term deal that's only getting better with age. Watch him play more. I understand if since you're a Kings fan you likely live on the west coast and it makes it hard to, fair enough. But watch him play more before you go throwing around comments like that.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 46
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Lol

Im not disagreeing with declining a 9 for 1. But thinking Vilardi will be even remotely as good as Eichel is pure homerism. Im a big Vilardi fan but my blinders are that bad.

As I said before, no Byfield no Eichel. You want Eichel you offer up Byfield as the main piece


You clearly didn't read what I wrote. I said when Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be MUCH better than him as Vilardi draws many similarities to Kopitar and Vilardi has that kind of upside. Is Eichel better than prime Kopitar? I can't answer that, but I'm just trying to make a point.

I also stated that the fair return would likely be Byfield and a 1st. Kings decline any of those deals though.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Turcotte+Vilardi>Byfield.

Kings decline this and any package you can think of very easily. Eichel is definitely overrated. Very good player, but overrated. Has he ever got over 80 points? I don't believe so. When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel.

Byfield and a 1st is fair value for Eichel, but the package above is a massive overpay from LA.

The only player in the NHL that is worth a top 6 center who has 1C potential(Vilardi), a 1/2C/LW prospect(Turcotte), the 2nd best goal scorer in his class who also scored a goal in his NHL debut despite being 2 years away from the NHL(Kaliyev), a top 6 LW who hasn't even reached his potential yet(Kempe), and two 1st round picks who could be high picks is McDavid.

Again, Kings very easily decline. They are worse after making this trade.


Why are you writing this nonsense? Last season, Eichel scored almost 80 points in a partial season, he walked at a pace of 100 points. Before that, he had a season where he scored 82 points, and before that he had injuries, that's why he didn't get more points. He is an elite 1C, which is not yet 25 years old and has a long-term contract. You will probably only need to dream for now that one of Byfield, Turcotte or Vilardi could reach his level. Also, don't forget that he plays in Buffalo, not Boston, Tampa or Toronto, where teammates are just better.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 48
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote. I said when Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be MUCH better than him as Vilardi draws many similarities to Kopitar and Vilardi has that kind of upside. Is Eichel better than prime Kopitar? I can't answer that, but I'm just trying to make a point.

I also stated that the fair return would likely be Byfield and a 1st. Kings decline any of those deals though.


And im telling you as someone who really likes Vilardi he will very likely never come close to as good as Eichel
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
This may be the worse opinion I've read.

Eichel overrrated? LOL.. points aren't everything. He's had almost no support the entire time he's been there. He's been through almost as many coaches as years he's been in the league (tough to adjust to) and yet he's still been dominant. Watch him play before you spew dumb things like that.

Vilardi at his ceiling will be Eichel?! Sorry, did I read that right? LOL! Vilardi will never top 70 points. So if you wanna compare just off points like you did in your first argument, Vilardi won't even each Eichel's career high as of now.

Byfield and a 1st is a "massive overpay"?! LOL.. a prospect that's never played a game in the NHL and another that's likely 2-3 years away from the league (the unknown pick) is worth more than a top 5 player in the league? Wow.

I understand wanting to support your favourite team and believe all the best for them, but you've said the most homer thing I think I've ever read.

Eichel is dominant. He makes every player around him better. He's a pure play driver, point producer, contributes at both ends of the rink, is a leader in the dressing room, and is signed to a long term deal that's only getting better with age. Watch him play more. I understand if since you're a Kings fan you likely live on the west coast and it makes it hard to, fair enough. But watch him play more before you go throwing around comments like that.


My lord you and @Ledge_And_Dairy don't know how to read.

Read what I actually wrote then get back to me.

I didn't compare Vilardi to Eichel, I compared Vilardi to Kopitar. If Vilardi reaches his ceiling, he could be as good as prime Kopitar. Prime Kopitar vs Eichel? Who is better? I don't know, its only a point.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 50
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Why are you writing this nonsense? Last season, Eichel scored almost 80 points in a partial season, he walked at a pace of 100 points. Before that, he had a season where he scored 82 points, and before that he had injuries, that's why he didn't get more points. He is an elite 1C, which is not yet 25 years old and has a long-term contract. You will probably only need to dream for now that one of Byfield, Turcotte or Vilardi could reach his level.


Vilardi and Byfield have 70-80 point upside if they reach their ceiling, maybe Turcotte too.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Holy phuck you and @Ledge_And_Dairy don't know how to read.

Read what I actually wrote then get back to me.

I didn't compare Vilardi to Eichel, I compared Vilardi to Kopitar. If Vilardi reaches his ceiling, he could be as good as prime Kopitar. Prime Kopitar vs Eichel? Who is better? I don't know, its only a point.


Vilardi's ceiling is not prime Kopitar for starters, secondly you are relying on him reaching maximum potential which is unrealistic
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 52
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And im telling you as someone who really likes Vilardi he will very likely never come close to as good as Eichel


How good will he be? As a Kings fan, I'm very interested in knowing since I have a genius right here.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 54
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How good will he be? As a Kings fan, I'm very interested in knowing since I have a genius right here.


Probably a solid 2nd line center
 
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