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Eichel Trade

Créé par: hockeycanada1982
Équipe: 2020-21 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2021
Publié: 11 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Would Buffalo accept this?
Transactions
BUF
  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Kaliyev, Arthur
  3. Kempe, Adrian
  4. Turcotte, Alex
  5. Vilardi, Gabriel
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $73 146 557 $0 $1 990 000 $8 353 443 $
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
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UFA - 1
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 133 333 $1 133 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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747 500 $747 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
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858 333 $858 333 $
G
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 2
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761 666 $761 666 $ (Bonis de performance107 500 $$108K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 3
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894 166 $894 166 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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818 333 $818 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance65 000 $$65K)
G
RFA - 3
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735 000 $735 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Vilardi's ceiling is not prime Kopitar for starters, secondly you are relying on him reaching maximum potential which is unrealistic


We had a little 10 game sneak peak last season and it was pretty promising.

It doesn't matter, Kings decline 100x over. I'm sure the Buffalo fans would love to have a massive package like that for their unhappy crybaby who always wants a trade, but doesn't get one.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Vilardi and Byfield have 70-80 point upside if they reach their ceiling, maybe Turcotte too.


I did not argue with that, but this is only potential, and Eichel is already such a player on a bad team. Vilardi has played just over 20 NHL games so far. By the way, I would have taken Turcotte + Vilardi, instead of one Byfield, if there was such a conversation.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
My lord you and @Ledge_And_Dairy don't know how to read.

Read what I actually wrote then get back to me.

I didn't compare Vilardi to Eichel, I compared Vilardi to Kopitar. If Vilardi reaches his ceiling, he could be as good as prime Kopitar. Prime Kopitar vs Eichel? Who is better? I don't know, its only a point.


Maybe you should learn you're on comment:

"When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel."

So you're saying Vilardi is gonna be Kopitar, then you argued that prime Kopitar was better than Eichel. So if you're saying prime Kopitar is better than Eichel, and you said Vilardi will be Kopitar, you therefore said Vilardi will arguably be better than Eichel.

You're writing. But apparently I can't read. LOL
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Probably a solid 2nd line center


Because of Byfield is here now? Lmao

That's not an accurate assessment.
11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 57
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"Would Buffalo accept this?" Who cares? Los Angeles wouldn't.
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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Maybe you should learn you're on comment:

"When Vilardi reaches his ceiling, Eichel won't be much better than him as he has a similar ceiling to Kopitar. You can argue prime Kopitar is better than Eichel."

So you're saying Vilardi is gonna be Kopitar, then you argued that prime Kopitar was better than Eichel. So if you're saying prime Kopitar is better than Eichel, and you said Vilardi will be Kopitar, you therefore said Vilardi will arguably be better than Eichel.

You're writing. But apparently I can't read. LOL


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11 févr. 2021 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: KINGS67
I would t make this trade.


On the assumption that you intended to type "I wouldn't make this trade," I'm giving you a "Like."
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
We had a little 10 game sneak peak last season and it was pretty promising.

It doesn't matter, Kings decline 100x over. I'm sure the Buffalo fans would love to have a massive package like that for their unhappy crybaby who always wants a trade, but doesn't get one.


Again big Vilardi fan, i was an avid defender of him this offseason due to his performance in the last 10 games. I know all about him

As for your take on Buffalo it makes no sense. First off, both teams easily decline the 7 for 2. Second Eichel has never cried or demanded a trade. Not sure where you pulled that take from
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11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Because of Byfield is here now? Lmao

That's not an accurate assessment.


Has absolutely nothing to do with Byfield being there, hes just probably not a legitimate 1C down the line
11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Again big Vilardi fan, i was an avid defender of him this offseason due to his performance in the last 10 games. I know all about him

As for your take on Buffalo it makes no sense. First off, both teams easily decline the 7 for 2. Second Eichel has never cried or demanded a trade. Not sure where you pulled that take from


Glad we came to an agreement.
11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 5
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Has absolutely nothing to do with Byfield being there, hes just probably not a legitimate 1C down the line


I guess we differ when it comes to what kind of player Vilardi will become. Regardless, if Vilardi only becomes this "solid 2nd line center" as you suggest and Kings add Turcotte, Kaliyev, Kempe, and two 1st round picks, that is still a massive overpay from LA and the Kings are much worse than before.

At the very least, its only a 2 year setback for Buffalo while Vilardi develops into his potential, Turcotte and Kaliyev makes the jumps, and guys like Cozens and Mittelstadt come into their own.

Again, glad we came to an agreement that we both would not make this trade.
11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 6
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By the way, welcome to CapFriendly!

Congratulations for proposing a trade which got such extended and impassioned discussion. I consider receiving half a dozen responses above average.
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11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
On the assumption that you intended to type "I wouldn't make this trade," I'm giving you a "Like."


Maybe he "would" accept this, but he was afraid how us Kings fans would feel about him so he put "would t"

Very clever.
11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 13
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
By the way, welcome to CapFriendly!

Congratulations for proposing a trade which got such extended and impassioned discussion. I consider receiving half a dozen responses above average.


Sometimes I miss the Star Rating.

Different times...
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11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
I guess we differ when it comes to what kind of player Vilardi will become. Regardless, if Vilardi only becomes this "solid 2nd line center" as you suggest and Kings add Turcotte, Kaliyev, Kempe, and two 1st round picks, that is still a massive overpay from LA and the Kings are much worse than before.

At the very least, its only a 2 year setback for Buffalo while Vilardi develops into his potential, Turcotte and Kaliyev makes the jumps, and guys like Cozens and Mittelstadt come into their own.

Again, glad we came to an agreement that we both would not make this trade.


I just see him as more of a Brayden Schenn/Jeff Carter ceiling player than a Sebastain Aho level.
11 févr. 2021 à 15 h 16
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I just see him as more of a Brayden Schenn/Jeff Carter ceiling player than a Sebastain Aho level.


I've never heard anyone come up with such a comparison.

The lowest potential comparison I've heard was Jason Allison, hopefully less injury prone since he's been healthy for awhile now. Although, those of us who watched Allison know how good he was despite always struggling with injuries.

Time will tell what he turns into.
 
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