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Forum: Armchair-GM28 nov. 2016 à 22 h 8
Sujet: hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeymad</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeymad</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i>You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.</i></div></div>
Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?</i></div></div>

To say that Hamilton is a cap dump is extreme. He fills a great need and puts up solid numbers. Hamilton also possess good potential that could be tapped under the right coach. Are you telling me that Hamilton wouldn't improve our top-4? The kid is certainly a top-4 guy that could develop into a top-2 guy. Let's not overlook his Boston days when many considered him to be better than Rielly. You just don't lose that talent over a season. In regards to your comment about him not putting in 100%, the Leafs are trying to build a culture here centred on winning and hard work. I'm not sure that Shanahan and company would pursue a player that they believe won't contribute to this culture.</i></div></div>
That is exactly my point there were issues with his Effort in Boston that's why they traded him. Also, he would only improve our roster if he starts playing more consistently. So seeing we agree to this why would The leafs give JVR when Hamilton is not worth that right now. You don't trade at value they should be only where they are at the time of the trade. The leafs have not made any play for Hamilton as far as I know cause Calgary are looking for top tier players for him even though he is not worth that right now. So until he improves he is at full salary a cap dump. The need is a consistent physical top 4/ Top 2 RHD so be honest with your self he is neither.</i></div></div>

I highly doubt questions about his "effort" was the primary reason he was traded. At the time he was traded it was widely publicized by those in the know that Hamilton and the Boston locker room didn't see eye-to-eye at times because of his personality. Consistency is an issue that all young players face, Hamilton is no different. While he isn't overly physical he can throw his body around when need be. He's a great breakout player, but can also cover at the back when breakouts go wrong. As such I think he'd be great in Toronto's fast-paced system. You may not see him as a top-4 guy, but I and quite a few others do. We'll agree to disagree.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 nov. 2016 à 21 h 0
Sujet: hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeymad</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i>You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.</i></div></div>
Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?</i></div></div>

To say that Hamilton is a cap dump is extreme. He fills a great need and puts up solid numbers. Hamilton also possess good potential that could be tapped under the right coach. Are you telling me that Hamilton wouldn't improve our top-4? The kid is certainly a top-4 guy that could develop into a top-2 guy. Let's not overlook his Boston days when many considered him to be better than Rielly. You just don't lose that talent over a season. In regards to your comment about him not putting in 100%, the Leafs are trying to build a culture here centred on winning and hard work. I'm not sure that Shanahan and company would pursue a player that they believe won't contribute to this culture.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 nov. 2016 à 14 h 16
Sujet: LEAFS signings in 2018-19
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_cap</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs1967again</b></div><div><i>Ben Smith signed for about $1.3M more than he will get.

JVR under paid.

Many other contracts (sosh way too much for example) off but will ignore that. Just don't see this concept working. LW is very weak.</i></div></div> What? How is Smith overpaid? One-year contract at 2 mill and especially if that there's a possibility that they could be below the cap floor. He's a good player for 4C and that contract has only got one-year on it which is perfect.

JVR might be underpaid but if you're gonna give him more say for example like a 5-6 mill contract then it's gonna be a 3 year deal. No way they take him at 4 years. They'll have problems later on.

What's wrong with Sosh? He's a great player.</i></div></div>

I really like Soshnikov, too. Not a fan of how Babcock is using him, however. The guy could do damage offensively playing with skilled forwards on the third or second line. What do you all think of Soshnikov-Matthews-Nylander long-term?
Forum: Armchair-GM25 nov. 2016 à 11 h 14
Sujet: Galchenyuk?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_cap</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i>Weird trade for Toronto to make.<strong> Nylander arguably has more upside then Galchenyuk</strong>. Let's see what we have in one of our core pieces before deciding to ship him out. I highly doubt the Leafs consider moving Nylander for anyone who isn't a current or potential top-pairing defenceman.</i></div></div>

How can you make that assessment?</i></div></div>

It's just my opinion. I think Nylander has the potential to be a more dynamic player. I know the sample is small but Nylander registered a higher PPG than Galchenyuk in their first years in the league. That Leaf team finished 30th in the league, too.</i></div></div>

Registering a higher pt per game on a terrible team does not mean one has a higher ceiling. Galchenyuk was sheltered early because the team in front of him was a playoff calibre team unlike the Leafs. Chucky also went directly from junior to NHL without any transition period unlike Nylander. Nylander is also much smaller than Galchenyuk and I have to think the big goal scoring center will have a bigger impact then the smallish winger in key situations.

I'll concede that there is plausibility that Nylander may be as good as Galchenyuk at the same age but no way can it be said that his ceiling is higher.</i></div></div>

Look, we're both gonna have our biases in this debate. I'm just saying ask anyone neutral about Nylander and Galchenyuk and 7/10 will take Nylander. There is some flair to Nylander's game which just makes you go "wow". I don't have the same feeling with Galchenyuk.</i></div></div> Ok, the thing with Nylander is he's dynamic which complements a player like Mathews, or Toews, or Kopitar,etc. Galchenyuk is a different caliber of a player, like a Seguin. So in terms of who has the higher potential I personally think it would be Nylander (points wise) BUT Galchenyuk I think will end up being the more complete player.</i></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_cap</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i>Weird trade for Toronto to make.<strong> Nylander arguably has more upside then Galchenyuk</strong>. Let's see what we have in one of our core pieces before deciding to ship him out. I highly doubt the Leafs consider moving Nylander for anyone who isn't a current or potential top-pairing defenceman.</i></div></div>

How can you make that assessment?</i></div></div>

It's just my opinion. I think Nylander has the potential to be a more dynamic player. I know the sample is small but Nylander registered a higher PPG than Galchenyuk in their first years in the league. That Leaf team finished 30th in the league, too.</i></div></div>

Registering a higher pt per game on a terrible team does not mean one has a higher ceiling. Galchenyuk was sheltered early because the team in front of him was a playoff calibre team unlike the Leafs. Chucky also went directly from junior to NHL without any transition period unlike Nylander. Nylander is also much smaller than Galchenyuk and I have to think the big goal scoring center will have a bigger impact then the smallish winger in key situations.

I'll concede that there is plausibility that Nylander may be as good as Galchenyuk at the same age but no way can it be said that his ceiling is higher.</i></div></div>

Look, we're both gonna have our biases in this debate. I'm just saying ask anyone neutral about Nylander and Galchenyuk and 7/10 will take Nylander. There is some flair to Nylander's game which just makes you go "wow". I don't have the same feeling with Galchenyuk.</i></div></div> Ok, the thing with Nylander is he's dynamic which complements a player like Mathews, or Toews, or Kopitar,etc. Galchenyuk is a different caliber of a player, like a Seguin. So in terms of who has the higher potential I personally think it would be Nylander (points wise) BUT Galchenyuk I think will end up being the more complete player.</i></div></div>

I hear you there, Mr_cap. Nylander will rack up points but I highly doubt that he develops a 100 foot game that matches his scoring acumen.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 nov. 2016 à 10 h 18
Sujet: Galchenyuk?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rgill</b></div><div><i>Weird trade for Toronto to make.<strong> Nylander arguably has more upside then Galchenyuk</strong>. Let's see what we have in one of our core pieces before deciding to ship him out. I highly doubt the Leafs consider moving Nylander for anyone who isn't a current or potential top-pairing defenceman.</i></div></div>

How can you make that assessment?</i></div></div>

It's just my opinion. I think Nylander has the potential to be a more dynamic player. I know the sample is small but Nylander registered a higher PPG than Galchenyuk in their first years in the league. That Leaf team finished 30th in the league, too.</i></div></div>

Registering a higher pt per game on a terrible team does not mean one has a higher ceiling. Galchenyuk was sheltered early because the team in front of him was a playoff calibre team unlike the Leafs. Chucky also went directly from junior to NHL without any transition period unlike Nylander. Nylander is also much smaller than Galchenyuk and I have to think the big goal scoring center will have a bigger impact then the smallish winger in key situations.

I'll concede that there is plausibility that Nylander may be as good as Galchenyuk at the same age but no way can it be said that his ceiling is higher.</i></div></div>

Look, we're both gonna have our biases in this debate. I'm just saying ask anyone neutral about Nylander and Galchenyuk and 7/10 will take Nylander. There is some flair to Nylander's game which just makes you go "wow". I don't have the same feeling with Galchenyuk.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 nov. 2016 à 17 h 9