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Créé par: sriley95
Équipe: 2016-17 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2016
Publié: 28 nov. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Corrado, Frank
  2. Holland, Peter
  3. Kapanen, Kasperi
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2017 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2373 000 000 $62 344 500 $512 000 $5 765 000 $10 655 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
686 667 $686 667 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 3
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 3
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
675 000 $675 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
612 500 $612 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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28 nov. 2016 à 18 h 1
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You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.
28 nov. 2016 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: rgill
You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.

Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?
28 nov. 2016 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: hockeymad
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You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.

Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?


To say that Hamilton is a cap dump is extreme. He fills a great need and puts up solid numbers. Hamilton also possess good potential that could be tapped under the right coach. Are you telling me that Hamilton wouldn't improve our top-4? The kid is certainly a top-4 guy that could develop into a top-2 guy. Let's not overlook his Boston days when many considered him to be better than Rielly. You just don't lose that talent over a season. In regards to your comment about him not putting in 100%, the Leafs are trying to build a culture here centred on winning and hard work. I'm not sure that Shanahan and company would pursue a player that they believe won't contribute to this culture.
28 nov. 2016 à 21 h 18
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You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.

Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?


To say that Hamilton is a cap dump is extreme. He fills a great need and puts up solid numbers. Hamilton also possess good potential that could be tapped under the right coach. Are you telling me that Hamilton wouldn't improve our top-4? The kid is certainly a top-4 guy that could develop into a top-2 guy. Let's not overlook his Boston days when many considered him to be better than Rielly. You just don't lose that talent over a season. In regards to your comment about him not putting in 100%, the Leafs are trying to build a culture here centred on winning and hard work. I'm not sure that Shanahan and company would pursue a player that they believe won't contribute to this culture.

That is exactly my point there were issues with his Effort in Boston that's why they traded him. Also, he would only improve our roster if he starts playing more consistently. So seeing we agree to this why would The leafs give JVR when Hamilton is not worth that right now. You don't trade at value they should be only where they are at the time of the trade. The leafs have not made any play for Hamilton as far as I know cause Calgary are looking for top tier players for him even though he is not worth that right now. So until he improves he is at full salary a cap dump. The need is a consistent physical top 4/ Top 2 RHD so be honest with your self he is neither.
28 nov. 2016 à 22 h 8
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Quoting: hockeymad
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You have to think that Calgary would want a substantial piece back in any deal for Hamilton (i.e., van Riemsdyk). Don't know what value Holland and Corrado have at the moment. Kapanen is a solid prospect and those two second rounders represent good value. I personally think that any deal revolves around JvR.

Can you or somebody else explain to my why the leafs would even consider a cap dump like Hamilton where he doesn't put 100% in every game and putting him in a market where slackers get eaten alive?


To say that Hamilton is a cap dump is extreme. He fills a great need and puts up solid numbers. Hamilton also possess good potential that could be tapped under the right coach. Are you telling me that Hamilton wouldn't improve our top-4? The kid is certainly a top-4 guy that could develop into a top-2 guy. Let's not overlook his Boston days when many considered him to be better than Rielly. You just don't lose that talent over a season. In regards to your comment about him not putting in 100%, the Leafs are trying to build a culture here centred on winning and hard work. I'm not sure that Shanahan and company would pursue a player that they believe won't contribute to this culture.

That is exactly my point there were issues with his Effort in Boston that's why they traded him. Also, he would only improve our roster if he starts playing more consistently. So seeing we agree to this why would The leafs give JVR when Hamilton is not worth that right now. You don't trade at value they should be only where they are at the time of the trade. The leafs have not made any play for Hamilton as far as I know cause Calgary are looking for top tier players for him even though he is not worth that right now. So until he improves he is at full salary a cap dump. The need is a consistent physical top 4/ Top 2 RHD so be honest with your self he is neither.


I highly doubt questions about his "effort" was the primary reason he was traded. At the time he was traded it was widely publicized by those in the know that Hamilton and the Boston locker room didn't see eye-to-eye at times because of his personality. Consistency is an issue that all young players face, Hamilton is no different. While he isn't overly physical he can throw his body around when need be. He's a great breakout player, but can also cover at the back when breakouts go wrong. As such I think he'd be great in Toronto's fast-paced system. You may not see him as a top-4 guy, but I and quite a few others do. We'll agree to disagree.
29 nov. 2016 à 7 h 55
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I do see him as a top 4 player but I don't see him being worth JVR. Also, if he had a problem with his personality in Boston and he did have an effort issue in Boston when not paired with Chara this was well known when looking at his advanced stats. My concern is what if he is Gardiners or Reilly's partner and has to play a more defensive role?? this is what caused the issues in Boston.
 
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