Let's start with the fact that it's the habs and freaking leafs.

Leafs trade for Habs # 1 centre and then put on him LW? Holland playing # 3 centre?

No issue with him on the wing. They have their #1C (Matthews by next year). He has played the wing every year until this year.

If you want to play him C than sure go ahead...

Why do leaf fans want to trade Nylander?? Doesn't make any sense.

Although I think Galchenyuk is a beast, but theres no way MTL does this - they want to win now, swapping him for Nylander doesn't help

Also would rather use our assets for a defenseman

You're right . It doesn't make any sense. Can't imagine why a non playoff team with up coming cap space would want to trade one of there main your pieces. I'm a Leaf fan and I just don't get all these lateral trades, it doesn't improve the team. And in this case to trade three starters for one, I don't get it. And the first rounder might in the late 20s, well that's probably four years down the road.

I'm guessing a leafs fan didn't make this by looking at the line combos, particularly the defensive pairings.

Exactly, and plus why would the Habs want 'unproven' assets (aside from Bozie). Doesn't help them at all.

Oh Leafs1967again........ you little rascal.

Can't you guys just be happy with your young future stars? Let us keep ours.

Wotishthebeast: Might be a Leaf fan, but don't know if has seen a game by the Leafssince1967.

Weird trade for Toronto to make. Nylander arguably has more upside then Galchenyuk. Let's see what we have in one of our core pieces before deciding to ship him out. I highly doubt the Leafs consider moving Nylander for anyone who isn't a current or potential top-pairing defenceman.

How can you make that assessment?

It's just my opinion. I think Nylander has the potential to be a more dynamic player. I know the sample is small but Nylander registered a higher PPG than Galchenyuk in their first years in the league. That Leaf team finished 30th in the league, too.

Nah just spent 0 time on them. D core did not change so no point on wasting my time on them,

F's I don't think it is that far of a stretch for Galchenyuk to come and play the W for us. He scored a lot of goals playing the W last year, regardless how good he has played this year.

As for the line combos tell me what I missed? Do you actually want Hyman playing with Auston? He is a depth F. Their top 6 can be rejigged but the players listed above in the top 6 would likely be the result of this trade.

Registering a higher pt per game on a terrible team does not mean one has a higher ceiling. Galchenyuk was sheltered early because the team in front of him was a playoff calibre team unlike the Leafs. Chucky also went directly from junior to NHL without any transition period unlike Nylander. Nylander is also much smaller than Galchenyuk and I have to think the big goal scoring center will have a bigger impact then the smallish winger in key situations.

I'll concede that there is plausibility that Nylander may be as good as Galchenyuk at the same age but no way can it be said that his ceiling is higher.

Look, we're both gonna have our biases in this debate. I'm just saying ask anyone neutral about Nylander and Galchenyuk and 7/10 will take Nylander. There is some flair to Nylander's game which just makes you go "wow". I don't have the same feeling with Galchenyuk.

Ok, the thing with Nylander is he's dynamic which complements a player like Mathews, or Toews, or Kopitar,etc. Galchenyuk is a different caliber of a player, like a Seguin. So in terms of who has the higher potential I personally think it would be Nylander (points wise) BUT Galchenyuk I think will end up being the more complete player.

I hear you there, Mr_cap. Nylander will rack up points but I highly doubt that he develops a 100 foot game that matches his scoring acumen.

I think your bias just glared through this debate when you mentioned "I'm just saying ask anyone neutral about Nylander and Galchenyuk and 7/10 will take Nylander." You clearly haven't watched Galchenyuk highlights. he absolutely has a wow factor. Nylander does too. I think Nylander has a better vision for the ice then Galchenyuk making him a better passer but Gally has attributes that Nylander has less of as well.



OK well if by definition of saying one has a higher ceiling, you mean he will score more pts on average then another player then I guess that is fair. Is that what people really mean though when they say that? Kane has more pts last year then Crosby but no one doubts whose the better player......

Sorry gentleman, scoring points isn't everything when considering ones ceiling. Especially in this NHL when guys like Toews only score 50-60 pts a season and guys like Hall score 70-80.

In my humble opinion, there's nothing that can be said that proves Nylander has a higher ceiling than Galchenyuk's. Notice I'm not saying Galchenyuk has a higher ceiling. Rather that, nothing supports Nylander's being higher.

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