I simply can't believe the Jets let it get to this point. How on earth do you favour players like Appleton and Iafallo etc?! This is absolutely embarrassing for Chevy.

Columbus is absolutely not trading Jiricek for McGroarty. They have a ton of young wingers and Jiricek is their only quality RD prospect. Even in isolation, Jiricek is a more valuable prospect than McGroarty, as he plays the more valuable position and has been an AHL all-star.

Jiricek isn't available. His beef was with the old regime, and fizzled out in January.

We have plenty of other top-6 options that could pan out, we don't have another NHL-caliber RD in the system.

I'm into that as Buffalo.
Do you see Savoie as the most exciting out of our big 4 forward prospects?

Columbus fired both GM and coach who were doing the disgruntling. Jiricek was the best player for Cleveland in the AHL playoffs. Even if you ignore the relative value of position, Jiricek is certainly still worth more than a player taken eight slots below him in the same draft who was slightly out played by (so therefore barely kept pace with) a guy taken in the second round the next year. When factoring position-- top line RHD vs middle-six wing-- it's not even close.

I saw a post that had a deal involving Corson Ceulemans (defensive RHD, first round pick in 2021) and Jordan Dumais (2023 Q MVP). While I the rest of the deal in that particular post was an egregious overpay, these two for McGroarty seems fairly balanced to me. Both of these prospects need at least a year more of AHL time, which should work perfectly for Winnipeg. Biggest issue for me is that Columbus in 24-25 probably doesn't have an NHL spot for McGroarty, either. But hey, he could continue tearing up a league on a line with Gavin Brindley in Cleveland.

That Detroit trade is funny. Easiest of no's. Other than the fact Seider isn't available, it's likely still not enough. Ehlers doesn't have the crazy high value many think. Switch Ehlers to Connor and at least a conversation can happen, even then really not worth it.

Canes accept

Well the importance of the Lowry line and Appleton's role on it can't be understated so its understandable why these guys need to be kept in specific spots and top prospects earn their time on the 4th line or the AHL.........







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YOU'RE RIGHT!!

Lol, seriously though, I am so mad that we are really going to lose our top prospect for absolutely no reason. HUGE eff up on Chevy's part.

This is an absolutely ridiculous narrative. This is all on an entitled, smug player who feels like he should be gifted a roster spot in the best hockey league in the world before even 1 NHL practice or camp. Chevy's Jets finished 4th overall in the NHL last season with Iafallo and Appleton on the roster, 4th! If Rutger would come to camp and prove he is better than those guys, and he likely would, great, but he hasnt yet and doesnt seem to feel like he needs to. NCAA is not the NHL! They haven't "mis-handled prospects'. One could argue they have handled them very well. Heinola hasn't been good enough to crack the top 6 until last season, and he got hurt. If you think differently then you need to evaluate your evaluation process. He will likely be on the roster this season. Perfetti was given lots of lead as a top 6 player as a 20 nd 21 year old. He clearly needed to take a seat mid season. He will be a big part of the top 6 this year. This is a coaching decision not a chevy decision. Who else have the fans cried about ruining the development of? Niku, Petan, Roslovic? C'mon! Are they ruining Salomonsson? Barlow? Chibrokov? Lambert? Did they ruin KC, Ehlers, Scheifele, Morrisey, Helleybuyck? They have less prospects making the team recently because they hadn't drafted in the first round for a couple years and had later 1sts in other recent drafts.

Anaheim isn't trading many. many seasons of Trevor Zegras for the potential of Rutger McGroarty plus rental Nik Ehlers, let alone rental Alex Iafallo.

Make it Ehlers & McGroarty, Kyler Conner and your next two 1st and 2nd picks and I am still saying a resounding no on Seider.

I got a good giggle out of you not only thinking Detroit would consider trading Seider, but then thinking they had to add in a 2nd.

I'm only partially kidding, have thought for years that having the Lowry line be such a non offensive line makes it difficult for prospects to cut their teeth. Its either top 6 or 4th line which won't work for a lot of guys, they really need to build a 3A/3B setup so guys can come into the lineup, get some ice time and not be playing with straight grinders and checkers.

Can a team like the Jets that has so much working against it really play this game with its higher end prospects?
I'm not sure they can.

Sure they finished 4th with those guys but again they were a quick first round exit, this lineup desperately needs some upgrades, maybe that could be McGroarty Idk.

The Jets have drafted in the 1st round every year except the 2018 draft which was traded for Stastny.

Play this game? What game? Let a 19 year old player dictate to an NHL team what he wants without earning it? I think absolutely no they cannot and should not!
What prospects exactly have the Jets ruined the development of? Heinola? Gimme a break, Perfetti is exactly where he should be. Maybe Bowness could have used him differently but this narrative about the Jets ruining players is absolutely absurd.

I get that but what do they have to lose?

I don't care much about Perfetti, figured this is how his season would go, as for Heinola I do think they should've gotten him up for some games while he was still waiver exempt but whatever, we'll see how that situation goes.

I think the narrative that the Jets are masters of drafting and developing is absurd.

It’s definitely above average. I would say 6 maybe 7 forwards and at least 3 D plus Hellebuyck are drafted and developed. Not to mention the ones they’ve lost. I think during the pandemic Ville was maybe mishandled a bit but he was making NHL money.
What have they got to lose? Every player drafted going forward does the same thing. And maybe Rutgers ready but he needs to earn it. This is growing trend with this generation of US collegiate players especially. I would be so inclined to make him stay in Michigan for 2 more years so he loses 2 years of his career.

Canes do that

I don't think its above average, not much better then anyone else's from what I can see.

I don't see the big deal, its a different generation, gotta manage egos and attitudes, just the way it is.

Make him stay in Michigan for two years, yeah that'll surely make future Jets picks excited to have been drafted by them.. lol 😆

The vindictive side of me would revel in it but yes, very bad asset management and a good way to get fired.
I just think the Jets have been right more often than not when it comes to prospects and no I don’t think this generation deserves different treatment or shouldn’t have to prove themselves.

Its just weird that they didn't want to burn the first year of his ELC as an enticement to turn pro. Also, I get an entitlement vibe that he kid wants NHL time like his buddies who are playing on rebuilding teams. Chevy messed up and McGroarty is entitled. Both can be true.

I just don’t see how Chevy messed up? I’m sure he tried to sign him just won’t guarantee him a spot. Rutger should sign, come to camp and take a job. They’ve given it to young kids many times that earn it.

Chevy messed up by telling him he wasn't going to burn a year of his ELC by playing him once this season according to Friedman. That's how.

Agree 100%, I've sort of changed my tune in the last 24 hours, McGroarty coming off as very entitled. Didn't think this would happen with him :/