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Rossi is available but READ ME

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Équipe: 2024-25 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 11 mai 2024
Publié: 11 mai 2024
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Rossi is available, but not in the way where the Wild are just trying to get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him. He had a very good rookie season, and in order for the Wild to move him, it would take something that they feel improves the roster long term, or is a better fit from a play-style standpoint.

Per Russo:
What are the chances Marco Rossi gets traded?

Higher than you’d think. If the Wild could trade Rossi for the same level of high-end prospect, but one who’s bigger and faster, there’s a real chance they’d pull the trigger.

For instance, the Wild were interested in Cutter Gauthier before Philadelphia traded his rights to Anaheim. That is the type of trade they might consider for Rossi.

It doesn’t have to be a center, either.

Recently, on a podcast he also mentioned a few other guys as examples of what the Wild might be looking for if they trade him, from Columbus, Marchenko, Sillinger, Johnson. He also stated it would likely be for guys that are in some way on the outs with their current club, whether they don't fit, aren't happy, etc. Obviously most of these guys won't apply, but we also didn't know Gauthier was on his way out until he was.

***This means that they're not looking for your package of lesser parts, and they're not looking for your high cost pending UFA.***

I've taken the liberty of putting together a list of some more guys they could explore.

Keep in mind:
1) If your team/player isn't listed, it's most likely because you have nothing that works
2) Your team/player being listed doesn't mean your team/player is bad or you have nothing of value, it just means you don't have what Minnesota is looking for in this deal
3) Just because your guy is listed, doesn't mean you or your team would actually move him, in fact most of these guys aren't going to be available in real life (In other words you don't need to tell me your guy isn't available, I know)
4) Players listed are not all 1 for 1 swaps, in some cases the Wild add, in some cases your team adds, in some cases it may be a 1 for 1 swap. I'm not focused on finding an actual trade here, just showing examples of candidates I (the Wild) would/could/should go after
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    Cutter Gauthier
    Leo Carlsson
    Mason McTavish
    ANA
      Marco Rossi
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        Daniil But
        Josh Doan
        Dylan Guenther
        ARI
          Marco Rossi
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            Jiri Kulich
            Dylan Cozens
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              Marco Rossi
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                Connor Zary
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                    Calum Ritchie
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                      Marco Rossi
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                        *Kent Johnson
                        *Cole Sillinger
                        *Mirill Marchenko
                        Yegor Chinakhov


                        *These three were mentioned specifically by Russo on the podcast as other examples
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                                                                          11 mai à 20 h 54
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                                                                          There are some guys I know I excluded for various reasons, and I'm sure there are some guys I forgot (probably mostly 22-24 year olds with established spots on a roster), but this should give you a pretty good idea of the type of piece it'll take to get Rossi this summer.
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                                                                          You can just remove the sabres from this post
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                                                                          Quoting: wojme
                                                                          You can just remove the sabres from this post


                                                                          See #3 in the OP
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                                                                          I think you're going to need to pump your brakes on your expectations, as teams aren't going to trade 6'+ power forwards for a 5'9" 2C.
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                                                                          Quoting: GiggywithGibby
                                                                          I think you're going to need to pump your brakes on your expectations, as teams aren't going to trade 6'+ power forwards for a 5'9" 2C.


                                                                          Yeah plus they’re all better than Rossi as well

                                                                          Wild Buddy thinks they’re even in the same convo
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                                                                          Quoting: GiggywithGibby
                                                                          I think you're going to need to pump your brakes on your expectations, as teams aren't going to trade 6'+ power forwards for a 5'9" 2C.


                                                                          See #3 and #4 in OP
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          See #3 in the OP


                                                                          And you're the one that posted the trade ideas essentially. You can't just post this and not expect any backlash.

                                                                          Don't think the Sabres would be in on Rossi
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                                                                          Quoting: wojme
                                                                          And you're the one that posted the trade ideas essentially. You can't just post this and not expect any backlash.

                                                                          Don't think the Sabres would be in on Rossi


                                                                          I'm begging you to read what I posted
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                                                                          What about Roy?
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                                                                          Can the Sabres trade some of their undersized prospects (not benson, he can stay) for guys that are bigger and faster (and better too)? I didn't know that was an option.
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                                                                          Quoting: sabres89
                                                                          Can the Sabres trade some of their undersized prospects (not benson, he can stay) for guys that are bigger and faster (and better too)? I didn't know that was an option.


                                                                          I know most of us fans cling to cliches for dear life, but it's pretty ridiculous to think there's not a single team that would want Marco Rossi, and wouldn't trade anyone over 6' for him. Especially if the piece you're giving is an obvious downgrade in pretty much every other way, like Kulich.

                                                                          I also stated in the OP that Russo said it would most likely be someone who's on his way out of their organization. I'm not prying a guy who's firmly entrenched in an organization that loves him here.

                                                                          I do wish more people would actually read what I wrote. I don't know what I expected on the internet, but it would have been nice.
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                                                                          Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
                                                                          What about Roy?


                                                                          For as much as I know about him, he is firmly in the "lesser piece" category.
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                                                                          Saber could have had Rossi at the draft he went right after Quinn there must have been some they didn't like.
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          If the Wild could trade Rossi for the same level of high-end prospect, but one who’s bigger and faster


                                                                          How many of these teams are looking for a similar level of prospect, who is smaller and slower?
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          I'm begging you to read what I posted


                                                                          I read every word of it.
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                                                                          How many of these teams are looking for a similar level of prospect, who is smaller and slower?


                                                                          A team whose bigger and faster player is on the way out of the organization. Read.
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          See #3 and #4 in OP


                                                                          Yeah, I read it, what you seem to not be understanding is no amount of additional minor pieces is turning Rossi into Gauthier or McTavish, and to even mention Carlsson is sacrilege.

                                                                          If you were containing it to "just pieces on their way out of their organizations" then you should have limited the list to players for which there are actualy rumors of that happening. There's zero for any of Anaheims players and the majority of the rest of your wish list.
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          See #3 in the OP


                                                                          I read all of it, and my question is are you asking for cozens or Kulich (with the pluses and minuses associated with either) or are you asking for both for Rossi. Because if it’s the latter 😬. If it’s the either or, cozens would have to be a hefty add from Min side, if at all? And Kulich has warts, so not gonna try to overrate, but imo an add smaller on the Buf side. I have a soft spot for Rossi, and think he gets way too much ragged on him
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                                                                          Too many of you seem to think the Wild are actively shopping Rossi because he sucks.

                                                                          He's only available IF the Wild can get something they like more.
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                                                                          Quoting: GiggywithGibby
                                                                          Yeah, I read it, what you seem to not be understanding is no amount of additional minor pieces is turning Rossi into Gauthier or McTavish, and to even mention Carlsson is sacrilege.


                                                                          Read #3 in the OP until you understand it
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                                                                          Quoting: Lsendel3
                                                                          I read all of it, and my question is are you asking for cozens or Kulich (with the pluses and minuses associated with either) or are you asking for both for Rossi. Because if it’s the latter 😬. If it’s the either or, cozens would have to be a hefty add from Min side, if at all? And Kulich has warts, so not gonna try to overrate, but imo an add smaller on the Buf side. I have a soft spot for Rossi, and think he gets way too much ragged on him


                                                                          It would be either Cozens or Kulich, not both. Just like for Ottawa it's either Pinto or Greig, not both.

                                                                          It's been reported by Russo (and making the rounds around here) that Rossi is available. This thread is meant to be a list of the types of guys he's "available" for, as the past few days have just been a slew of packages of lesser pieces or players like Marner, who the Wild aren't interested in.

                                                                          You can read this thread as Rossi not being available unless it's around some of these guys, not that he's worth all of these guys 1 for 1, or that these guys are realistic and potentially available targets.
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          A team whose bigger and faster player is on the way out of the organization. Read.


                                                                          So a highly discounted player?

                                                                          Kaliyev, Podkolzin, Poulin?

                                                                          Seems like that’s Billy’s sandbox
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          Too many of you seem to think the Wild are actively shopping Rossi because he sucks.

                                                                          He's only available IF the Wild can get something they like more.


                                                                          Read my comment. Read the room. Read the idea that Rossi isn't in high demand.
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                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                          So a highly discounted player?

                                                                          Kaliyev, Podkolzin, Poulin?

                                                                          Seems like that’s Billy’s sandbox


                                                                          Like Cutter Gauthier, whom he was floated around for before he was moved to Anaheim.

                                                                          Again, that's what he's available for. He's not just available for the sake of being available.
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                                                                          Quoting: Caerii
                                                                          Read #3 in the OP until you understand it


                                                                          If you were containing it to "just pieces on their way out of their organizations" then you should have limited the list to players for which there are actualy rumors of that happening. There's zero for any of Anaheims players and the majority of the rest of your wish list.

                                                                          Maybe figure that out before you post?
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