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Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 8 h 46
Forum: Armchair-GM12 avr. à 11 h 37
Sujet: Lottery Win and Offersheet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Just to add. The following season. Sabres have five RFAs to sign and only one expiring UFA contract 3m Greenwood., Looks like an vengeful offer sheet or two waiting to happen.</div></div>

Really only 3, as RJ will be only what like 1.5M? JJP, Quinn, or Byram could make it tough, but if they all take some sort of bridge (Byram being tough) and buyout Skinner (saves 5 mil the first year, 3 mil the following) it could be done, if the cap goes up further. Retaliation generally comes from the team that the OS happened to if any, and Fla will be up against the cap themselves. Math it could work, but not worth it. Fla may be motivated to move him anyways to resign Sam and all the other pieces, or maybe not.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 avr. à 13 h 22
Forum: Armchair-GM8 avr. à 17 h 8
Sujet: Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>A team loading up on playoff depth, grit, and experience is way different than trading for RFA rights.

Exactly what do you think you're going to get for these guys? Krebs is a reclamation project at this point.

OP, to answer your question of where Krebs fits, Pittsburgh, Boston, any team with a weak prospect system that has a spot in their bottom 6 to let him figure stuff out. Hell, maybe offer him to Colorado for Colton.</div></div>

I said they should be part of a bigger package. Not sold off as individual parts. Krebs as a solid defensive player probably holds late second round valueish when applied to a larger deal. And Joki a RHD which always gets traded for over value. Selling off at the lowest value possible is just bad business. And yeah, I’ve seen plenty of LAK proposals of a Turcotte swap or like you mentioned a Colton swap.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 avr. à 15 h 24
Sujet: Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NucksnOilers</b></div><div>What room is there for either of them? Krebs doesn't have any room in the middle 6 at all and Jokiharju doesn't have any room in the bottom 4. Both of these guys are going to be RFA's and teams will know Buffalo has no space for either of them so why would they pay top dollar when they can just wait for them to be on open market? Krebs just isn't good enough to be a 3C on a playoff contending team like the Sabers want to be (Adams job might depend on it) so he won't fit there and there needs to be room for Johnson so play so Jokiharju won't have a spot either</div></div>

But even when there isn’t room with organizations, teams still seem to get appropriate value for their assets. A team would have to pay that price as they both are decent enough assets that there will be more than 1 suitor for each. They each can be a secondary piece within a bigger trade, not useless picks. ****, the corpse of Eric Johnson just pulled a 4th and he’s significantly worse than Joki, like in every way possible except for that one time he got dragged into a SC win with the Avs. Add in both play premium positions, selling low just doesn’t make sense
Forum: Armchair-GM3 avr. à 16 h 22
Sujet: Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div><strong>Yeah, comps matter on cap dumps and depth defensemen. </strong>You are trying to cram two very different situations into the same hole, but it don't fit.

- Guentzel was a TDL UFA being shopped around. Buch has a full season and he is not available, but Army will listen in case anyone wants to blow him away. They are plotting extension talks. Already we have wildly different scenarios.

- Pittsburgh is in a totally different situation with regards to right now. They want to maintain a shot at competing with Sid and Geno and Letang and EK, so Bunting was a solid get for them. It would not be one for the Blues.

- Similarly, the Pens have a nearly barren prospect pool, whereas the Blues are about top 10, depending on who you ask. The Pens clearly went for some organizational depth for the future, the Blues would not be doing that (nor would they agree to spread the value across six pieces or whatever). They'd want specific types of players at specific positions who are closer to ready if possible, and two, maybe three pieces tops.

There's no simple check the other trade comp to be made here with Guentzel, or most anyone else you could bring up.</div></div>

They matter on more than that, but that’s fine, I’m not going to round and round. If Pitt wanted to keep the window with Sid there open, trading Guentzel should have been the last thing they did, imo.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 avr. à 16 h 0
Sujet: Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I think a bag of pucks is a bit of an undersell of what exactly they got. Bunting isn't really all that bloated of a contract. It's a 2 and a half year committment at a very fair hit for his production. He's not a driver but it's an extremely similar contract and situation to Saad where he's a relatively affordable source of 20+goals and 50 points or so while being a pretty reliable player. Sure it's probably not something you could move freely, but you could say the same about almost every 2nd/3rd line veteran in the league. While those players aren't necessarily your core players, almost every Cup winning team has a good deal of them spread throughout their rosters.

Ponomorav hasn't really lit the world on fire but he's probably capable of being an NHL player next year and possibly having an impact. Koivunen is probably a year after that, and Cruz Lucius also has a pretty good chance as well. It's not the sexy return that we all like to shoot for. But lets face it. Not every "Top" prospect who is 3-4 years out or recently drafted pans out. Most dont. Sure there's a chance that they do and their impact will most likely exceed the guys that are lower rated, but getting alot of cost controlled roster players is what Pittsburgh preferred. And in all honesty, Bunting included, they'll probably get 3 out of that trade alone.</div></div>

O come on now. It was and is a **** return. Spin it however you want, most likely they sold their last chance with Sid to win anything for more than likely 3rd line guys in 3 years. I remember the O’Reilly trade, Blues fans were thumping their chests pretty loudly and rightfully so. And for 4 years it looked like Buffalo would have had 1.5 seasons of Vlad to show for ROR. I know I’m jumping from trade to trade here, but I can tell you from talking with Pittsburgh fans, they’ve accepted they got basically nothing and like you said a hard to move 2nd/3rd liner.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 avr. à 15 h 56
Sujet: Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Like I said, he played the first 9-10 games clearly not at 100%, and since regaining full fitness is back up around PPG. It also did not help anyone that the power play was allergic to PPG for the first few months. But hey, if you want to place that much importance on 10 games out of 221, so be it. He has 212 points in those Blues games, at a rate like 33% higher than his Rangers production. That's a rather curious path to get to so much concern about him already falling off from old age. If you don't want him, cool, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not a market item. Someone would need to compel Army (who is already talking up an extension) to come off him. This is not some TDL UFA who everyone knows is being shopped around because they gotta get something decent for him tout de suite.

Also, <strong>Buch has missed a grand total of two games this season, so I'm not sure what that's about.</strong></div></div>

You’re the one playing up the injury. And awesome, he should probably be resigned with the Blues.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 avr. à 15 h 28
Sujet: Buch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>Truthfully I wouldn't be shocked if they did. I would be very happy if they could get him at 8.5 for 5 years. The situation is worth discussing though as we're in a position where we're probably not going to be extremely competitive for the next 2 years or so. So i can't really imagine the front office making a long-term commitment to a guy that will sign when he's juts turning 30.

Your initial post wasn't geared towards a Buffalo stand point. It was posted in general about the player.

I'd agree that the injury history is probably the only red flag in the players profile. But given he hasn't had any significant injuries it's not a lingering thing.

Buffalo probably isn't the best team for this conversation anyways. I'd imagine Buch would probably have them on his NTC. But this is the exact type of forward the Sabres need to look in to. They have all of the offensive talent in the world but don't have any responsibility in their forward group in terms of two-way play.</div></div>

Fair enough. I do tend to always look at it through Buffalo’s standpoint, as that’s who I cheer for, and should clarify as such. I’m curious to see what he ends up getting, I know he can play center, but is better suited as a winger, so that may stunt the return. We just watched Guentzel get a bag of pucks and a conditional second, along with Pitt taking Bunting’s bloated contract. If a GM views him as a center, that would vastly improve the return. Otherwise, history has taught that GMs always seems to get a “deal” on wingers. He would be a great addition to Buffalo, but it truly would only be a year as he’d dip after next season, so just not worth what it would take unless they got that deal, which remains to be seen.