Leafs keep the good cost efficient Knies, and have 4.5m in cap for a UFA RHD instead of one 4.5m retained Spurgeon.

NTU would rather have the rookie than a 34 soon 35 year old Dman

The Rangers don't even take that phone call. Absurd trade offer.

The Rangers probably keep the guy who is fourteen years younger and plays a far more lucrative position.

That doesn’t get you Schneider

You could remove the NYR pick and add a 2nd from MIN and it’s still a no

For starters, you need to use a 24-25 template. The 23-24 template no longer applies as the trade deadline has passed.

Just as important, nobody is giving you top prospects already contributing in the NHL for old,expensive UFAs. That's just pure fantasy.

I just don’t see San Jose moving their possible 1st ever 1st overall, especially when the pick would be a kid who was a previous Jr shark and he’s the consensus top player in the draft

I don't think the Sharks consider that unless they somehow end up picking 5th or worse, which is basically impossible

Sharks need a #1 C after trading Hertl so as reasonable as this deal is I think we have to say no.

These are solid. Zuccarello is an upgrade the rangers need at forward and the value is maybe slightly skewed to Minny there.

Spurgeon is the guy the leafs keep thinking they’re trading for when they’re sending mid rounders for Lynushkin types. No way they do something that smart

The sharks move is probably the only one that’s off, and that’s only because no one really knows what the value of 1OA is in a trade anymore. That said, it’s closer than Josh Anderson for 1OA that we’re seeing here lmao

Sharks would want Faber if they’re giving up the Celebrini pick.

I've been taking a lot of heat for the trades I've put out. I try to keep both teams in mind when making a trade. I don't think Knies ceiling is as high as I want. He was a gopher and I'm a big fan. But he hardly produces on a line with Matthews, you basically walk into points on his line. I think he could be an effective 2nd line producer and have a very successful career. My thought was to get Spurgeon on a contender and still have 3-4 good years left. Retain salary so they can make other moves to round out their roster. With this direction the Wild could afford it and get a guy I think would fit in well on a line with Ek.

I'm not as high on Schneider as the Ranger fans are. I get the not wanting to take Zucc but he solves their problems for the next 2 years and have other assets to trade to round out that team. Kappo could be a valuable piece to move to potentially get a decent return. It's less than Ranger fans think. But with their current d-core, I see Schneider being expendable. With the current roster they could be contenders with someone like Zucc on that 2nd line drivng plays. He just doesn't fit our window.

I get the 1st overall hate. No one trades that pick. I'll take the heat but BG needs to get aggressive. Rossi is having a huge year and one we all wish came sooner. The only reason I want to take a swing is for a player that could be a Top 5 center in the league instead of Top 15 potentially. The odds are Minnesota sucks the rest of the season as we just got blown out, we pick 10th and get lucky to get Buium to go next to Faber. And the years just keep going by. If I was GM I would take a massive swing.

Thanks for the post and having a convo around some trades. I always enjoy hearing different perspectives!

Thats fair, I think he may be the most untouchable piece on our roster. I have a question for you and other fans. What is your window, or how long until this roster actually gets really good? For example, because the Wild are minus $15 mill in cap space, our window couldn't begin for another 2 years. Thats why I would move a guy like Zucc. I see the Sharks window being 3-5 years away, maybe a bit longer. Because of that, I don't think Faber would help a ton for the next 3 years. If you were to trade back this year and get a potential 1-2c and is young, with 2 first round picks. In 3-5 years Rossi is still 25-27 and is in his prime. You get 2 first rounders on top of it to get other talented pieces. I think you are right though, my brain just goes to what that pick will do for you guys. Pick Celebrini, let him sit in the NCAA another year, hopefully start building a roster out for protect him. He isn't Bedard where he was a lock to be a star. If he doesn't pan out to be that guy, you are even further back from being competitive. And if you can't surround him with talent he doesn't develop properly. Just my thoughts and rants. But ultimately that pick doesn't move and you guys get an exciting piece for the future!

Thats fair. What was the reaction for Shark Fans? I was shocked when that deal went though. I thought the return should have been more, Hertl is a big time player, one I wanted the Wild to go after but we have no space to sign anyone. I just got done ranting on trading this pick so I won't bore people with another. It will be interesting to see how the Sharks rebuild and the direction of the club. I'm always rooting for Addison, he never got a fair shake here in Minnesota.

You are probably right! I just wanted to throw a trade out there and see reactions. That pick never moves so it's very much a hypothetical. I'm rooting for you guys to get that pick and not Chicago. I just can't stand they get everything after the bull**** that happened there.

It simply comes down to if the Sharks are giving up a potential elite 1C at the start of his career then they need an elite young player at a premium position coming back in return. Rossi is good but he’s probably not going to be an elite 1C. Those picks you included will get you good prospects, but again the likelihood of them turning into truly elite players is low.

The player that fits the bill is Faber. He’s only 21, so even though the Sharks are a few years away from contention he’s still young enough to be in his prime on the next good Sharks team.

What does? He plays 3rd pairing D on a stacked d-core. He doesn't have stats that pop out to you. I don't look at points because that wouldn't be fair. I targeted him because he is young, could play behind Faber on a 2nd pairing and replace Spurgeon. In giving up Zucc, we are giving up a point per game player over the past 3 years. He is on a reasonable $4 million dollar contract for the next 2 years and has played for you in the past. I could see him fitting in very well and boosting that 2nd line and helping you guys in the playoffs. Only reason I consider moving Zucc on a team friendly deals, is because of his age and our window isn't the next 2 years. Idk, maybe you guys love his game, I look at how the Penguins ran their franchise for almost 20 years with Crosby. Why keep picks or prospects if you can go get proven results. If this trade went though, and you won a cup. How would you feel?

Thank you for the feedback. I'll change that moving forward. I'm guessing you are referring to the Spurgeon deal? Or what deal were you referring to? I didn't trade UFA's. Each player has term left on their deal.

I would agree in most cases, but the two things that came to my mind when doing that trade was cap space vs production. The fact you guys have no RD that plays at the level Spurgeon does. The window for Toronto is closing with each season. You have 4 super star forwards and aren't competing for the cup. I root for you each year the Wild get bounced in the First Round. Knies could fit in a young version of the Wild on a second line with Ek who plays a similar game to him. We retained salary for you to build out that roster over the next 3 years and win a championship. Spurgeon would be close to Reilly for you guys. He's been a star with us. Once again, the only reason we trade him is our window isn't in the next 2 years as we have $15 mill in dead cap space. Why waste his talents. He will be 35 when we try to start competing. Why would you want 18 year olds on Toronto when you are competing for a Cup? You're probably right, but it's an Arm-Chair GM, I make swings that try to better both teams.

No, I was referring to Zucc.

Honestly, I would probably be more open to trading Boldy than Faber. Just because we have a few wingers coming up that may be able to replace Boldy. Ohgren and Yurov are supposed to be pretty good. I would counter with that but you don't get as many picks back probably.

Gotcha, he's got another 2 years after this at $4 mill/year. Pretty low for a 70+ point producer. I get the age piece tho. Fair concern, he just hasn't slowed down here. Because of his passing I don't think that takes as much of a decline as other players.

Because they need Schneider more than they need Zucc and he fits their window better. Schneider should be ahead of Trouba because he’s the better player and has proved it with Trouba being out hurt

That being said, the timeline works out perfectly cause they’ll give Schneider a 2 year bridge which leads up to the end of Trouba’s contract. Not to mention Schneider is cheaper than Zucc’s cap hit and the rangers need every penny

Rangers need Schneider more than Zucc lol it’s a no brainer. If the Rangers want to bring him back, they will offer picks

But trading a young core RH defenseman for an aging vet would get any GM fired